Chain Draft (Main Thread)

i vote for block list.
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Oh and EAP what happens to the players if the team drops out? Are they available for reinforcements or completely discarded?

Say if Berba drops out, whoever draws against him will get a free pass to next round. Berba's part assembled team will be treated as losers and so will be available for reinforcements.
 
So, I'm in need of some advice as to what options I should take for my next few picks. Any neutrals out here who can provide me more options and routes?
 
I think the most reasonable thing in that case would be to make them inelligible this round but eligible for reinforcements (they would effectively be the released losers from a no show).

But they are out of this drafting round IMO, else the timing around deciding that the team is disbanded could benefit one specific manager over others (as there's at least one there who could be quite popular).

So, basically, you can all hate @Gio for his brief stint taking Zoff out of the equation :lol:
Zoff so belongs in a draft like this. I couldn't turn it down. Especially with that relatively obscure Modova link.

Certainly agree that Berba's players shouldn't just become available as someone might struck lucky. I can make another pick for Berba if it keeps things chugging along till he gets back, unless anyone else wants to more formally take up the mantle.
 
Zoff so belongs in a draft like this. I couldn't turn it down. Especially with that relatively obscure Modova link.

Certainly agree that Berba's players shouldn't just become available as someone might struck lucky. I can make another pick for Berba if it keeps things chugging along till he gets back, unless anyone else wants to more formally take up the mantle.

In fairness, if you aren't taking it over I wouldn't.

I was stuck in that Juve side earlier and once you factored in those picked and those blocked there was very little room for manoeuvre (it didn't help that Boninsegna had also played with pretty much all the good ones!).

Zoff was an obvious pick there but the next one really shapes the draft fortunes of berba or anyone taking over.
 
In fairness, if you aren't taking it over I wouldn't.

I was stuck in that Juve side earlier and once you factored in those picked and those blocked there was very little room for manoeuvre (it didn't help that Boninsegna had also played with pretty much all the good ones!).

Zoff was an obvious pick there but the next one really shapes the draft fortunes of berba or anyone taking over.
Absolutely. You can end up with two entirely different teams from here.
 
mazhar13: 1. P. Falcao 2. di Bartolomei (Roma) 3. Tassotti (Milan) 4. Savicevic (Milan) 5. Jugovic (Red Star)
antohan: 1. Facchetti 2. Boninsegna (Inter) 3. Scirea (Juventus) 4. Altafini (Juventus) 5. L. Buffon (Milan)
MJJ (crappy): 1. Romario 2. Guardiola (Barca) 3. Figo (Barca) 4. Vieira (Inter) 5. Henry (Arsenal)
Joga Bonito (Annah): 1. Didi 2. N. Santos (Botafogo) 3. J. Bauer (Botafogo) 4. M. Ramos (Sao Paulo) 5. Zito (Santos)
Cal?: 1. Ribery 2. Robben (Bayern) 3. Cannavaro (Real) 4. Zambrotta (Juventus) 5. van der Sar (Juventus)
diarm: 1. R. Baggio 2. Tacconi (Juve) 3. Tardelli (Juve) 4. G.Baresi (Inter) 5. Klinsmann (Inter)
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl 2. Schiaffino (Milan) 3. Ghezzi (Milan) 4. Rivera (Milan) 5. Collovati (Milan)
Cutch: 1. Passarella 2. Bergomi (Inter) 3. Bergkamp (Inter) 4. Davids (Ajax) 5. Vierchowod (Juventus) 6. Conti (Roma)
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup 2. Stoichkov (Barca) 3. Benarrivo (Parma) 4. Albertini (Padova) 5. Cafu (Milan) 6. Batistuta (Roma)
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento 2. Amancio Amaro (Real) 3. Netzer (Real) 4. Bonhof (Gladbach) 5. Schumacher (Koln) 6. Forster (National Card)
EAP: 1. Breitner 2. K. H. Rummenigge (Bayern) 3. Zenga (Inter) 4. Brehme (Inter) 5. Augenthaler (Bayern) 6. Effenberg (Bayern)
Skizzo (Pat): 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori (Juventus) 3. Del Sol (Juve) 4. Santamaria (Real) 5. Pirri (Real) 6. Camacho (Real)
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs (United) 3. Stam (United) 4. Kaka (Milan) 5. Essien (Real) 6. A. Cole (Chelsea)
Gio: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law (United) 3. Rosato (Torino) 4. Schnellinger (Milan) 5. Zoff (Mantova)
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez (Inter) 3. Kocsis (Barcelona) 4. Bozsik (Honved) 5. Kincses (Kispest) 6. Boniperti (Juventus)
Tuppet (VivaJ): 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit (Feyenoord) 3. Costacurta (Milan) 4. Nesta (Milan) 5. Nedved (Lazio) 6. Del Piero (Juventus)

BLOCKED PLAYERS:

Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi.

@green_smiley
 
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mazhar13: 1. P. Falcao 2. di Bartolomei (Roma) 3. Tassotti (Milan) 4. Savicevic (Milan) 5. Jugovic (Red Star)
antohan: 1. Facchetti 2. Boninsegna (Inter) 3. Scirea (Juventus) 4. Altafini (Juventus) 5. L. Buffon (Milan)
MJJ (crappy): 1. Romario 2. Guardiola (Barca) 3. Figo (Barca) 4. Vieira (Inter) 5. Henry (Arsenal)
Joga Bonito (Annah): 1. Didi 2. N. Santos (Botafogo) 3. J. Bauer (Botafogo) 4. M. Ramos (Sao Paulo) 5. Zito (Santos)
Cal?: 1. Ribery 2. Robben (Bayern) 3. Cannavaro (Real) 4. Zambrotta (Juventus) 5. van der Sar (Juventus)
diarm: 1. R. Baggio 2. Tacconi (Juve) 3. Tardelli (Juve) 4. G. Baresi (Inter) 5. Klinsmann (Inter)
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl 2. Schiaffino (Milan) 3. Ghezzi (Milan) 4. Rivera (Milan) 5. Collovati (Milan) 6. Causio (Inter)
Cutch: 1. Passarella 2. Bergomi (Inter) 3. Bergkamp (Inter) 4. Davids (Ajax) 5. Vierchowod (Juventus) 6. Conti (Roma)
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup 2. Stoichkov (Barca) 3. Benarrivo (Parma) 4. Albertini (Padova) 5. Cafu (Milan) 6. Batistuta (Roma)
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento 2. Amancio Amaro (Real) 3. Netzer (Real) 4. Bonhof (Gladbach) 5. Schumacher (Koln) 6. Forster (National Card)
EAP: 1. Breitner 2. K. H. Rummenigge (Bayern) 3. Zenga (Inter) 4. Brehme (Inter) 5. Augenthaler (Bayern) 6. Effenberg (Bayern)
Skizzo (Pat): 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori (Juventus) 3. Del Sol (Juve) 4. Santamaria (Real) 5. Pirri (Real) 6. Camacho (Real)
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs (United) 3. Stam (United) 4. Kaka (Milan) 5. Essien (Real) 6. A. Cole (Chelsea)
Gio: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law (United) 3. Rosato (Torino) 4. Schnellinger (Milan) 5. Zoff (Mantova)
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez (Inter) 3. Kocsis (Barcelona) 4. Bozsik (Honved) 5. Kincses (Kispest) 6. Boniperti (Juventus)
Tuppet (VivaJ): 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit (Feyenoord) 3. Costacurta (Milan) 4. Nesta (Milan) 5. Nedved (Lazio) 6. Del Piero (Juventus)

BLOCKED PLAYERS:

Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi.

@diarm
 
I'll need a few minutes here. Just realised my pick was born about 20 years earlier than I thought and misses out on the decades rule!
 
I'll need a few minutes here. Just realised my pick was born about 20 years earlier than I thought and misses out on the decades rule!

You can have 5 players from the same decade in the squad but just 4 in the team that you put out. Just in case you didn't know.
 
You can have 5 players from the same decade in the squad but just 4 in the team that you put out. Just in case you didn't know.

I saw that earlier but I think I've found a better chain now anyway. Thanks for the heads up!
 
mazhar13: 1. P. Falcao 2. di Bartolomei (Roma) 3. Tassotti (Milan) 4. Savicevic (Milan) 5. Jugovic (Red Star)
antohan: 1. Facchetti 2. Boninsegna (Inter) 3. Scirea (Juventus) 4. Altafini (Juventus) 5. L. Buffon (Milan)
MJJ (crappy): 1. Romario 2. Guardiola (Barca) 3. Figo (Barca) 4. Vieira (Inter) 5. Henry (Arsenal)
Joga Bonito (Annah): 1. Didi 2. N. Santos (Botafogo) 3. J. Bauer (Botafogo) 4. M. Ramos (Sao Paulo) 5. Zito (Santos)
Cal?: 1. Ribery 2. Robben (Bayern) 3. Cannavaro (Real) 4. Zambrotta (Juventus) 5. van der Sar (Juventus) 6. Evra
diarm: 1. R. Baggio 2. Tacconi (Juve) 3. Tardelli (Juve) 4. G. Baresi (Inter) 5. Klinsmann (Inter)
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl 2. Schiaffino (Milan) 3. Ghezzi (Milan) 4. Rivera (Milan) 5. Collovati (Milan) 6. Causio (Inter)
Cutch: 1. Passarella 2. Bergomi (Inter) 3. Bergkamp (Inter) 4. Davids (Ajax) 5. Vierchowod (Juventus) 6. Conti (Roma)
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup 2. Stoichkov (Barca) 3. Benarrivo (Parma) 4. Albertini (Padova) 5. Cafu (Milan) 6. Batistuta (Roma)
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento 2. Amancio Amaro (Real) 3. Netzer (Real) 4. Bonhof (Gladbach) 5. Schumacher (Koln) 6. Forster (National Card)
EAP: 1. Breitner 2. K. H. Rummenigge (Bayern) 3. Zenga (Inter) 4. Brehme (Inter) 5. Augenthaler (Bayern) 6. Effenberg (Bayern)
Skizzo (Pat): 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori (Juventus) 3. Del Sol (Juve) 4. Santamaria (Real) 5. Pirri (Real) 6. Camacho (Real)
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs (United) 3. Stam (United) 4. Kaka (Milan) 5. Essien (Real) 6. A. Cole (Chelsea)
Gio: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law (United) 3. Rosato (Torino) 4. Schnellinger (Milan) 5. Zoff (Mantova)
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez (Inter) 3. Kocsis (Barcelona) 4. Bozsik (Honved) 5. Kincses (Kispest) 6. Boniperti (Juventus)
Tuppet (VivaJ): 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit (Feyenoord) 3. Costacurta (Milan) 4. Nesta (Milan) 5. Nedved (Lazio) 6. Del Piero (Juventus)

BLOCKED PLAYERS:

Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi.
 
Sol Campbell - Spurs (1994-95)
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mazhar13: 1. P. Falcao 2. di Bartolomei (Roma) 3. Tassotti (Milan) 4. Savicevic (Milan) 5. Jugovic (Red Star)
antohan: 1. Facchetti 2. Boninsegna (Inter) 3. Scirea (Juventus) 4. Altafini (Juventus) 5. L. Buffon (Milan)
MJJ (crappy): 1. Romario 2. Guardiola (Barca) 3. Figo (Barca) 4. Vieira (Inter) 5. Henry (Arsenal)
Joga Bonito (Annah): 1. Didi 2. N. Santos (Botafogo) 3. J. Bauer (Botafogo) 4. M. Ramos (Sao Paulo) 5. Zito (Santos)
Cal?: 1. Ribery 2. Robben (Bayern) 3. Cannavaro (Real) 4. Zambrotta (Juventus) 5. van der Sar (Juventus) 6. Evra (United)
diarm: 1. R. Baggio 2. Tacconi (Juve) 3. Tardelli (Juve) 4. G. Baresi (Inter) 5. Klinsmann (Inter) 6. Campbell (Spurs)
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl 2. Schiaffino (Milan) 3. Ghezzi (Milan) 4. Rivera (Milan) 5. Collovati (Milan) 6. Causio (Inter)
Cutch: 1. Passarella 2. Bergomi (Inter) 3. Bergkamp (Inter) 4. Davids (Ajax) 5. Vierchowod (Juventus) 6. Conti (Roma)
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup 2. Stoichkov (Barca) 3. Benarrivo (Parma) 4. Albertini (Padova) 5. Cafu (Milan) 6. Batistuta (Roma)
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento 2. Amancio Amaro (Real) 3. Netzer (Real) 4. Bonhof (Gladbach) 5. Schumacher (Koln) 6. Forster (National Card)
EAP: 1. Breitner 2. K. H. Rummenigge (Bayern) 3. Zenga (Inter) 4. Brehme (Inter) 5. Augenthaler (Bayern) 6. Effenberg (Bayern)
Skizzo (Pat): 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori (Juventus) 3. Del Sol (Juve) 4. Santamaria (Real) 5. Pirri (Real) 6. Camacho (Real)
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs (United) 3. Stam (United) 4. Kaka (Milan) 5. Essien (Real) 6. A. Cole (Chelsea)
Gio: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law (United) 3. Rosato (Torino) 4. Schnellinger (Milan) 5. Zoff (Mantova)
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez (Inter) 3. Kocsis (Barcelona) 4. Bozsik (Honved) 5. Kincses (Kispest) 6. Boniperti (Juventus)
Tuppet (VivaJ): 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit (Feyenoord) 3. Costacurta (Milan) 4. Nesta (Milan) 5. Nedved (Lazio) 6. Del Piero (Juventus)

BLOCKED PLAYERS:

Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi.

@Joga Bonito
 
I deleted it as I just remembered Klinsmann played for Monaco as well. ;)
A few years between them at Monaco though ;). I think Klinsmann retired from playing before Evra debuted for a senior team, they're about 20 years apart from each other after all. You were definitely safe there.
 
mazhar13: 1. P. Falcao 2. di Bartolomei (Roma) 3. Tassotti (Milan) 4. Savicevic (Milan) 5. Jugovic (Red Star)
antohan: 1. Facchetti 2. Boninsegna (Inter) 3. Scirea (Juventus) 4. Altafini (Juventus) 5. L. Buffon (Milan)
MJJ (crappy): 1. Romario 2. Guardiola (Barca) 3. Figo (Barca) 4. Vieira (Inter) 5. Henry (Arsenal)
Joga Bonito (Annah): 1. Didi 2. N. Santos (Botafogo) 3. J. Bauer (Botafogo) 4. M. Ramos (Sao Paulo) 5. Zito (Santos) 6. C. Alberto(Santos)
Cal?: 1. Ribery 2. Robben (Bayern) 3. Cannavaro (Real) 4. Zambrotta (Juventus) 5. van der Sar (Juventus) 6. Evra (United)
diarm: 1. R. Baggio 2. Tacconi (Juve) 3. Tardelli (Juve) 4. G. Baresi (Inter) 5. Klinsmann (Inter) 6. Campbell (Spurs)
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl 2. Schiaffino (Milan) 3. Ghezzi (Milan) 4. Rivera (Milan) 5. Collovati (Milan) 6. Causio (Inter)
Cutch: 1. Passarella 2. Bergomi (Inter) 3. Bergkamp (Inter) 4. Davids (Ajax) 5. Vierchowod (Juventus) 6. Conti (Roma)
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup 2. Stoichkov (Barca) 3. Benarrivo (Parma) 4. Albertini (Padova) 5. Cafu (Milan) 6. Batistuta (Roma)
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento 2. Amancio Amaro (Real) 3. Netzer (Real) 4. Bonhof (Gladbach) 5. Schumacher (Koln) 6. Forster (National Card)
EAP: 1. Breitner 2. K. H. Rummenigge (Bayern) 3. Zenga (Inter) 4. Brehme (Inter) 5. Augenthaler (Bayern) 6. Effenberg (Bayern)
Skizzo (Pat): 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori (Juventus) 3. Del Sol (Juve) 4. Santamaria (Real) 5. Pirri (Real) 6. Camacho (Real)
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs (United) 3. Stam (United) 4. Kaka (Milan) 5. Essien (Real) 6. A. Cole (Chelsea)
Gio: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law (United) 3. Rosato (Torino) 4. Schnellinger (Milan) 5. Zoff (Mantova)
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez (Inter) 3. Kocsis (Barcelona) 4. Bozsik (Honved) 5. Kincses (Kispest) 6. Boniperti (Juventus)
Tuppet (VivaJ): 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit (Feyenoord) 3. Costacurta (Milan) 4. Nesta (Milan) 5. Nedved (Lazio) 6. Del Piero (Juventus)

BLOCKED PLAYERS:

Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi.

@MJJ @crappycraperson
 
mazhar13: 1. P. Falcao 2. di Bartolomei (Roma) 3. Tassotti (Milan) 4. Savicevic (Milan) 5. Jugovic (Red Star)
antohan: 1. Facchetti 2. Boninsegna (Inter) 3. Scirea (Juventus) 4. Altafini (Juventus) 5. L. Buffon (Milan)
MJJ (crappy): 1. Romario 2. Guardiola (Barca) 3. Figo (Barca) 4. Vieira (Inter) 5. Henry (Arsenal) 6. Deschamps (Juve)
Joga Bonito (Annah): 1. Didi 2. N. Santos (Botafogo) 3. J. Bauer (Botafogo) 4. M. Ramos (Sao Paulo) 5. Zito (Santos) 6. C. Alberto(Santos)
Cal?: 1. Ribery 2. Robben (Bayern) 3. Cannavaro (Real) 4. Zambrotta (Juventus) 5. van der Sar (Juventus) 6. Evra (United)
diarm: 1. R. Baggio 2. Tacconi (Juve) 3. Tardelli (Juve) 4. G. Baresi (Inter) 5. Klinsmann (Inter) 6. Campbell (Spurs)
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl 2. Schiaffino (Milan) 3. Ghezzi (Milan) 4. Rivera (Milan) 5. Collovati (Milan) 6. Causio (Inter)
Cutch: 1. Passarella 2. Bergomi (Inter) 3. Bergkamp (Inter) 4. Davids (Ajax) 5. Vierchowod (Juventus) 6. Conti (Roma)
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup 2. Stoichkov (Barca) 3. Benarrivo (Parma) 4. Albertini (Padova) 5. Cafu (Milan) 6. Batistuta (Roma)
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento 2. Amancio Amaro (Real) 3. Netzer (Real) 4. Bonhof (Gladbach) 5. Schumacher (Koln) 6. Forster (National Card)
EAP: 1. Breitner 2. K. H. Rummenigge (Bayern) 3. Zenga (Inter) 4. Brehme (Inter) 5. Augenthaler (Bayern) 6. Effenberg (Bayern)
Skizzo (Pat): 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori (Juventus) 3. Del Sol (Juve) 4. Santamaria (Real) 5. Pirri (Real) 6. Camacho (Real)
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs (United) 3. Stam (United) 4. Kaka (Milan) 5. Essien (Real) 6. A. Cole (Chelsea)
Gio: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law (United) 3. Rosato (Torino) 4. Schnellinger (Milan) 5. Zoff (Mantova)
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez (Inter) 3. Kocsis (Barcelona) 4. Bozsik (Honved) 5. Kincses (Kispest) 6. Boniperti (Juventus)
Tuppet (VivaJ): 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit (Feyenoord) 3. Costacurta (Milan) 4. Nesta (Milan) 5. Nedved (Lazio) 6. Del Piero (Juventus)

BLOCKED PLAYERS:

Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi.

@Balu @Aldo @antohan
 
I deleted it as I just remembered Klinsmann played for Monaco as well. ;)

Not sure which seasons though...

All good anyway

Feeling a bit foolish now! I totally misunderstood this whole interaction (there have been a few beers consumed today) and thought you had mistakenly taken over control of my side!
 
Feeling a bit foolish now! I totally misunderstood this whole interaction (there have been a few beers consumed today) and thought you had mistakenly taken over control of my side!
Sorry about that... ;)
It might be better to avoid picking ahead of someone before you...just in case they were going to follow a potential chain to that player later.
Guess so...
 
Feeling a bit foolish now! I totally misunderstood this whole interaction (there have been a few beers consumed today) and thought you had mistakenly taken over control of my side!

:lol::lol::lol:
 
You are not alone @diarm . I thought the poor sod Cal was forming his chain with regards to the team below him. As in the chain draft that anto was alluding to earlier where you pick off from the person before you :lol:
 
@antohan picks:

Julio César “El Pardo” Abbadie (Genoa, 1959-60)

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A cracking winger, Abbadie had the uneviable task of being groomed to eventually replace Ghiggia in one of the most feared frontlines ever: Vidal-Schiaffino-Míguez-Hohberg-Ghiggia aka as “The Death Squad” which terrorised Peñarol’s rivals in Uruguay and beyond.

Do notice 4 out of these 5 were the Uruguay 1950 frontline (Hohberg was born in Argentina). Abbadie was invited to join as a backup despite being 19 and not a regular first team player, such was his talent. But he declined, explaining he didn’t feel he was ready and that he wasn’t going to let his team and country down, someone more experienced would be a better fit. As it turns out, when Vidal got injured it was Morán -the player who took his spot- that replaced him and started in the final. Lucky for us, Morán was indeed a better fit, being a left-footed left winger himself. Not as fancy these days, but essential in a W-W.

It didn’t take too long for him to challenge Ghiggia for a first team spot. Ghiggia himself described him as “rapid, a great dribbler but, different from me, he liked getting kicked and kept coming back for more”. For a while he alternated on either wing, made the left his own momentarily when Vidal left for Italy, then the right wing when the Peñarol board decided to cash in on the World Cup winning winger who no longer looked nailed on or needed as a starter.

That also meant he automatically got the right wing spot for Uruguay at the next World Cup in Switzerland, where he scored two against Scotland and was part of what is believed to this day to be the best Uruguayan side ever. It had everything: the technical ability, the defensive nous, the dogged determination, the lightning counter-attacks… What it lacked was a rule against injuries (EAPs fault, of course :p). More on this with a later player.

His success at the World Cup attracted immediate attention and Juventus, Milan and Genoa kept raising the stakes and pushing the Peñarol board to let go. Having recently sold Schiaffino for the world record transfer, the Board was having none of it. Stability was needed, replacing Varela and Míguez should be the immediate concerns… But once the captaincy and leadership issue was resolved they once again parted with the crown jewels.

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Genoa had patiently waited for two years knowing that so long as they matched the others Abbadie’s heritage meant he had a soft spot for them and a massive signing-on bonus (1/4 of the fee!) also helped. Unfortunately much of that money never materialized, but that didn’t stop him setting the Serie A alight and becoming a legend, recognized to this day as the best player ever to have played for them (i.e. for the oldest club in Italy, no less!). After five years, the money problems at Genoa got bad, they had to loan him out to another club that paid his wages only.

Peñarol was doing well, had won two Libertadores, one Intercontinental against Eusebio’s Benfica… and Cubilla had left for Barcelona. No one had any doubt who was best suited to replace him other than El Pardo himself, so he agreed with Genoa to forget the money so long as they gave him a free transfer. Up until his death last year, Genoa sent him his membership card and paid for him to travel and watch them once every season, usually to open the season with him entering the pitch. Completely bizarre and a bit caricaturesque, but there you go.

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Of course, Peñarol had changed a lot. It was no longer the uber-attacking side of the 40s and 50s but, in his own words “a more cagey side that would switch to the counter like a panther thrusts with its paw, Bam! Bam! Game Over”. He continues: “it doesn’t work any more, you can’t sit back and soak and win on the break, it rarely happens. But that’s not the tactic being flawed, the problem is we no longer see ‘manoeuverers, jugglers, dribblers and ball-steppers’ like we used to”. “We always had at least two if not three or four on the pitch who could do that at pace and rip a team apart, however good their defenders were. Where there is space the advantage is always on the attackers’ side so long as they know how to think on their feet and have the technique to resolve situations. Spencer and Joya stood on the halfway line and just waited for us to get the ball back and unleash them”. With that gameplan they won the Copa Libertadores in 1966, the Intercontinental against Madrid (beating them 2-0 in both legs) and the Intercontinental Cup Winners Cup in 1969.

Yes, in his second stint Abbadie turned into the experienced and cerebral cool head who worked hard at right midfield and was a major outlet to unleash those two with his diagonal balls, or just storm forward if there was space for him to attack. No, he wasn’t Beckham, but that’s very much the kind of role he will play here to great effect, not the 50s winger.

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yeah. It's a shame.

This is a lesson to others who run research intensive drafts. Don't.

@Pat_Mustard take over?

Not massively keen on the idea but I'm taking a look at some chains now and I'll give it a shot. If I start running into dead ends though I don't really want to commit alot of time to someone else's team, so I'll either pass the team on or end up half-assing it. Which isn't really the end of the world I guess if the alternative is the team not getting finished at all?
 
mazhar13: 1. P. Falcao 2. di Bartolomei (Roma) 3. Tassotti (Milan) 4. Savicevic (Milan) 5. Jugovic (Red Star)
antohan: 1. Facchetti 2. Boninsegna (Inter) 3. Scirea (Juventus) 4. Altafini (Juventus) 5. L. Buffon (Milan) 6. Julio César Abbadie (Genoa)
MJJ (crappy): 1. Romario 2. Guardiola (Barca) 3. Figo (Barca) 4. Vieira (Inter) 5. Henry (Arsenal) 6. Deschamps (Juve)
Joga Bonito (Annah): 1. Didi 2. N. Santos (Botafogo) 3. J. Bauer (Botafogo) 4. M. Ramos (Sao Paulo) 5. Zito (Santos) 6. C. Alberto(Santos)
Cal?: 1. Ribery 2. Robben (Bayern) 3. Cannavaro (Real) 4. Zambrotta (Juventus) 5. van der Sar (Juventus) 6. Evra (United)
diarm: 1. R. Baggio 2. Tacconi (Juve) 3. Tardelli (Juve) 4. G. Baresi (Inter) 5. Klinsmann (Inter) 6. Campbell (Spurs)
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl 2. Schiaffino (Milan) 3. Ghezzi (Milan) 4. Rivera (Milan) 5. Collovati (Milan) 6. Causio (Inter)
Cutch: 1. Passarella 2. Bergomi (Inter) 3. Bergkamp (Inter) 4. Davids (Ajax) 5. Vierchowod (Juventus) 6. Conti (Roma)
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup 2. Stoichkov (Barca) 3. Benarrivo (Parma) 4. Albertini (Padova) 5. Cafu (Milan) 6. Batistuta (Roma)
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento 2. Amancio Amaro (Real) 3. Netzer (Real) 4. Bonhof (Gladbach) 5. Schumacher (Koln) 6. Forster (National Card)
EAP: 1. Breitner 2. K. H. Rummenigge (Bayern) 3. Zenga (Inter) 4. Brehme (Inter) 5. Augenthaler (Bayern) 6. Effenberg (Bayern)
Skizzo (Pat): 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori (Juventus) 3. Del Sol (Juve) 4. Santamaria (Real) 5. Pirri (Real) 6. Camacho (Real)
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs (United) 3. Stam (United) 4. Kaka (Milan) 5. Essien (Real) 6. A. Cole (Chelsea)
Gio: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law (United) 3. Rosato (Torino) 4. Schnellinger (Milan) 5. Zoff (Mantova)
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez (Inter) 3. Kocsis (Barcelona) 4. Bozsik (Honved) 5. Kincses (Kispest) 6. Boniperti (Juventus)
Tuppet (VivaJ): 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit (Feyenoord) 3. Costacurta (Milan) 4. Nesta (Milan) 5. Nedved (Lazio) 6. Del Piero (Juventus)

BLOCKED PLAYERS:

Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi.

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You are not alone @diarm . I thought the poor sod Cal was forming his chain with regards to the team below him. As in the chain draft that anto was alluding to earlier where you pick off from the person before you :lol:

This comforts me. :wenger:
 
Some strong sides emerging. Cutch probably my favourite so far in terms of sustained and unquestionable quality. Interesting to see where he and the others who started with the 50s-born players go next.