There isn't a CB available for a reasonable price that fits this descriptionLet's not feck about. We need an exceptional defender. Basically, better than Maguire and someone who is a good partner for him.
I hope these lesser players we're being linked with are just agents playing the money game in the press.
There isn't a CB available for a reasonable price that fits this description
*or has the potential to be better* should have said..
Those players have potential to be betterLet's not feck about. We need an exceptional defender. Basically, better than Maguire and someone who is a good partner for him.
I hope these lesser players we're being linked with are just agents playing the money game in the press.
Those players have potential to be better
I'm not so sure about that. Some of them are 22/23 and not pulling up any trees. Upamecano, yes, I believe he will become better than Maguire.
Vidic wasn't pulling up any trees when he was 22/23.
I'm not so sure about that. Some of them are 22/23 and not pulling up any trees. Upamecano, yes, I believe he will become better than Maguire.
No. He was virtually unknown by most when he arrived at OT. That is the kind of deal I am hoping for. I'd like the recruitment team and scouting network to to prove its value.
So those players we are linked with also virtually unknown right? So what's the issue here?
Even with Vidic who wasnt a million years ago, the internet and social media wasnt what it is now. Apart from teenagers I think there are barely unknown players. The players getting mentioned here that people are aware of and some may have seen play......they would be unknowns in the days of Vidic, so what you are saying is totally correct.
Also get the idea for some reason a lot of posters talk about players and opinions of them and how they have watched them several times.....and never seen them play at all, find that strange jumping on reports or hearsay of certain players
Van Dijk wasn't pulling up any trees when he was 22/23 and internet was very well known during his younger days.
Lot of people haven't watch those players. Feel free to look at the threads now, almost every single one of them admitted never watch them. They only stated their opinion based on stats. I also expect you to know the difference between YouTube clips with watching the actual multiple games.
That's fair enough.
Reg. van Dijk, I think you could see he was special even at Celtic. At Southampton it was fairly obvious. Personally, I'd rather sign a 26/27 year old centre back who is a clear upgrade, if we're not going for the very best young centre back. I can't say I've watched them all, or a great deal, but I've seen enough of Upamecano to feel he's a sure bet.
Edit: Thought similar of Saliba. Think he'll prove to be a great purchase for Arsenal.
Van Dijk wasn't pulling up any trees when he was 22/23 and internet was very well known during his younger days.
Lot of people haven't watch those players. Feel free to look at the threads now, almost every single one of them admitted never watch them. They only stated their opinion based on stats. I also expect you to know the difference between YouTube clips with watching the actual multiple games.
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My muppet focus has already moved from RW to CB. I'm assuming the Sancho deal is a formality.
Well I said last year we need to sign two centre backs not one and with a couple more outs last year that should have happened we could have. To be fair we have been very hampered with Tuanzabe and Bailly being injured so much though. But for me it is a priority as after right wing with Greenwood moving inside its the position we can most improve in our first eleven. Defensive midfield also a huge concern squad wise.
I am a massive fan of Grealish and want us to sign him as attacking wise think he improves the squad more than anybody else, but with the size of his fee and Sanchos Idthink sadly Id rather we signed a defensive midfielder now.
He was excellent for Celtic when he moved there at 22/23 so I dont agree with that. Though I did think he was a big fish in a small pond and though very good at Southampton will confess I was one thought the fee was ridiculous for him and that he was nothing special.
only Upamecano, ROmagnoli and Konate I have seen much of outside of the premiership multiple times and all would be excellent signings though see little chance of Romagnoli the other two are gettable even if Upamecano signed a new contract which I guess pushes up the fee and makes him unfeasible as well
I don’t think there is a lack of defensive “talent”. In fact there are plenty around. But if you said lack of finished defensive article then yes I agree with you. Honestly I’d rather sign a 18-21 year old talent than a 28-29 established CB.I think we are heading into period in football where there is a lack of outstanding defensive talent. The success of our next defensive signing will largely depend on how efficient our scouts can summarise accurate reports.
We need a Laporte who was always rated at Bilbao but seems to have the taken next step at city. Lenglet is another example and perhaps even Umtiti who has been halted by injury (coming from OL). I reckon Ake will do well at City he's a sound defender and from my own (limited) knowledge I can't see anyone else aside a Upamecano and Pau who I've heard from the La Liga fans is good but sounds like having the same weaknesses as Lindlelof.
I think we are heading into period in football where there is a lack of outstanding defensive talent. The success of our next defensive signing will largely depend on how efficient our scouts can summarise accurate reports.
We need a Laporte who was always rated at Bilbao but seems to have the taken next step at city. Lenglet is another example and perhaps even Umtiti who has been halted by injury (coming from OL). I reckon Ake will do well at City he's a sound defender and from my own (limited) knowledge I can't see anyone else aside a Upamecano and Pau who I've heard from the La Liga fans is good but sounds like having the same weaknesses as Lindlelof.
Pau Torres release clause is 75m euros and asking price is 65mCristian Romero - Genoa, 22. 53 passes (2.7 long) per match at 89%. Good 1st touch.
Pau Torres - Villarreal, 23. €30m, 60 passes (6.3 long) per match at 85%. Good 1st touch. Fast
Young, no major injuries, not exorbitantly priced, good defenders, classy on the ball. Torres preferred: he's speedier.
Thought he wasn't doing so well at Barca but could be wrongBarca are skint. Would they sell Lenglet? A good age, was scouted by United a lot, and now has lots of experience at big clubs.
I think we are heading into period in football where there is a lack of outstanding defensive talent. The success of our next defensive signing will largely depend on how efficient our scouts can summarise accurate reports.
Gabriel Megalhaes or Benoît Badiashile it is then!Pau Torres release clause is 75m euros and asking price is 65m
He's average.Barca are skint. Would they sell Lenglet? A good age, was scouted by United a lot, and now has lots of experience at big clubs.
The same way Grealish would improve us.I'm quite confused by our need for a left footed CB. Asides from maybe Torres the other ones we've been linked with - Gabriel Badiashile and Ake are all squad players. I get left footed CB will help in the build up but how much of an impact is a left footed CB going to have in the build up play when he's not even first choice.
Totally different caseThe same way Grealish would improve us.
No, Grealish doesn't immediately go into our first team, but has the quality to push himself into our first team and offers us something different. Same with a left footed CB that can pass. They might not immediately shift Lindelof out the side, but they have the quality to get the opportunity to and can show when they get the opportunity in the team, what kind of impact it has.Totally different case
I don't think Grealish has the quality to bench Pogba Bruno or Rashford. Also where does this left footed CB that starts as a squad player come in if Tuanzebe is also being highly rated by OleNo, Grealish doesn't immediately go into our first team, but has the quality to push himself into our first team and offers us something different. Same with a left footed CB that can pass. They might not immediately shift Lindelof out the side, but they have the quality to get the opportunity to and can show when they get the opportunity in the team, what kind of impact it has.
Tuanzebe cannot be relied on at the moment and he's also right footed is he not? You should have 4 CBs minimum, but we can actually only rely on 2 this season. We're going to have a lot of game next season, hopefully, it's important we have quality and different options. We've been berrated this season for playing one way, it's good to have variety.I don't think Grealish has the quality to bench Pogba Bruno or Rashford. Also where does this left footed CB that starts as a squad player come in if Tuanzebe is also being highly rated by Ole
Either of these two would be greatGabriel Megalhaes or Benoît Badiashile it is then!
