Boo fecking hoo. The guy tracked the lion for 40 hours and then they attempted to destroy the tracking collar on it. He knew perfectly well what he is doing. He also seems to have a history of hunting illegally as he has been fined before.
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Boo fecking hoo. The guy tracked the lion for 40 hours and then they attempted to destroy the tracking collar on it. He knew perfectly well what he is doing. He also seems to have a history of hunting illegally as he has been fined before.
Not out of proportion at all. It's raised awareness about what's going on, and if there isn't an outcry, it will just continue. It will likely continue anyway, but do we sit back and tut, then forget it?
I'm not a violent person but I'd love to kick this piece of shits head in.
People who hunt these animals for sport make me sick. It's not about skill it's about them enjoy the ending of another creature's life.
I'm surprised he still had his business after the sexual harassment lawsuit.
Well, his family should obviously be left alone (and I don't see why they would be ridiculed), but the guy deserves whatever he gets.
They lured the Lion out of the park illegally. The guy has already been prosecuted in America for killing a bear illegally too.
Considering the widespread tolerance of recreational hunting, singling out this guy for extraordinary vilification seems unfair.
On the other hand, a rich asshole traveling thousands of miles to another continent in order to kill a wild animal for sport isn't very fair on the animal. So.... tough.
He fully deserves for his life to be ruined, both financially, professionally, and socially, for illegally poaching an African Lion.
I'd like to shit on his head.
Why infect your shit?
Might be out of proportion in the sheer number of complaints but the basic reaction seems pretty reasonable to me.
I presume its some sort of ego trip, so shitting on him and his behavior seems an appropriate reaction tbh.
I dont care if its legal or not anyway, hes a shitty human being regardless and deserves what he gets.
With any luck his business will go under and he wont be taking any more holdiays like this.
Why is this lion so popular? And will this psycho be punished? Surely someone who lures and animal out of it's lair, injures it, shoots it dead, and then beheads it isn't right in the, well, head.
I hope he loses every customer he has. Doubly so because the lion was lured out of the National Park (allegedly because he paid the farmer) who in turn didn't have a permit to kill a lion. Killing things for fun deserves to be roundly and publicly condemned. In this case he wounded the animal and then took 2 days to hunt it down and kill it with a crossbow - so torture on top of killing - excellent.
Zimbabwe authorities are looking for him but I'd guess he is out of there by now.
This particular lion has been followed for many years by behavioral biologists. They not only lured it out of it's lair, they lured it our of the national park so that it wouldn't be protected anymore by law, technically. That is, if they hadn't got caught.
Some more of Walt´s handy work.
Hunting's an appalling activity but is there really much difference between hunting and eating meat?
Both activities involve torturing and killing animals for human pleasure.
Both activities involve torturing and killing animals for human pleasure.
You do have a point, although canned hunting (and in this case outright poaching) are viscerally distressing when the guy takes pics with a nearly endangered animal.
My old man is a hunter and he's off to Zimbabwe to shoot gazelles or antelopes or something. I don't have much moral high ground because I eat meat and take no interest in how that's processed so I just stick to belittling him, asking when he's off to shoot those big goats. Hunters are pretty soft skinned so it's always a good laff.
They're vaguely similar situations i guess, but i disagree.
Cows aren't endangered, a lot of modern farms treat them quite well and there's a purpose to their death beyond giving some asshole kicks.
There's a thread called 'meat is murder' knocking about. Its probably a more appropriate thread for that conversation anyway.
Incidentally i don't have much issue with people hunting deer and then eating it or whatever (does anyone actually do that? Or is it just a strawman?).
I just find fox hunting and junk like this appalling.
The purpose of their death is to give people kicks. People eat meat because it tastes good. It's just a different type of pleasure.
In Australia deer hunting is very common.
Quite a big deal in Canada, and I have good reason to assume the United States as well. My dad goes hunting for two consecutive weeks every year, the first week exclusively with a 30 cal rifle and the other with a black powder rifle. He has gone for the last decade or so, twice a year, and he has shot four deer. I like seeing deer alive frolicking, and I couldn't shoot one myself, but I have to admit that the venison is really great. They also make jerky out of the meat, and it is crazy good. Deer populations aren't threatened, and at least they use as much of the animal as possible; that's how I justify eating the delicious, delicious bambi meat
I've only been pheasant hunting which I now find utterly ridiculous as an activity. The birds went nearly extinct around my area and are slowly being reintroduced by "conservationists" who release them a month or so before hunting season and proceed to go out and shoot the birds they just recently released. Problem is the birds are so domesticated that they are relatively unafraid of humans, and thus easy to hunt, although the coyotes also have a really easy, delicious meal now.
I have no moral high ground to stand on against hunting, I just find some of the practices lacking in common sense
I saw a thing on 60 Minutes about a elephant conservatory somewhere in Africa where they allowed hunting. They found that the numbers of elephants increased dramatically because of the economic benefit that came with legal, limited hunting. Unfortunately it seems that lion populations have not benefited from similar policies
In this case I wouldn't mind the so called "disproportionate" Twitter response.
Exactly.
I don't really buy the extinction danger argument either. Sharks are endangered too, and I doubt any dentist posing with a dead shark would have had his business and family ruined for posing with a dead shark.
Mind you, if that scumbag lost his business it would probably affect the livelihood of at least 5-6 other families of employees who would lose their jobs. I guess that would be alright too in the likely event that they are fat Yanks who enjoy their giant bleeding burgers.
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Wow, now eating meat = illegal poaching/illegal trophy hunting? Seriously?
Yup eating cows and hunting endangred animals just for fun is the same..
never understood those people, hunting lured animals who cant defend themselves to feel 'the thrill of killing'.
I would send them to Syria or Iraq, they can sense that feeling on a daily basis and lots of it.
never understood those people, hunting lured animals who cant defend themselves to feel 'the thrill of killing'.
I would send them to Syria or Iraq, they can sense that feeling on a daily basis and lots of it.
The fake FB page set up for people to comment on him is very illuminating. They posted this link, he seems to have history (this is from 2008):
http://www.inforum.com/content/final-defendant-fined-2939-bear-hunting-case-0
C'mon guys is there really any difference between eating a chicken and shooting a lion? 
Disgusting the lot of them. I won't call them human beings.
Apparently not haha.C'mon guys is there really any difference between eating a chicken and shooting a lion?
Even worse in the case of this twat Walter Palmer....he shot this lion with a crossbow and the animal lived for 40 hours before he was finally shot dead!
Seeing as this bloke has allegedly openly admitted to killing all but one animal on the "big game hunters list" it's only fair that he is left in a safari park with nothing more than his wits and a plastic spork to survive.
This also reminds me of that stupid bitch that took down the big 6 game with a bow and arrow then bragged about it on Facebook and wondered why she was attacked.
I feel sorry for Mr Palmers wife and kids, they will undoubtedly be affected by this too, but hopefully it will show his kids that their Daddies favourite hobby is pretty sick and twisted. I also wonder if he has ever taken his kids to the zoo? And if so, what the conversation was like? "Oh daddy there's a mountain Gorilla, they say there's only about a thousand left in the wild, have you killed one of them?" How he could answer them is baffling.
This also reminds me of that stupid bitch that took down the big 6 game with a bow and arrow then bragged about it on Facebook and wondered why she was attacked.
I feel sorry for Mr Palmers wife and kids, they will undoubtedly be affected by this too, but hopefully it will show his kids that their Daddies favourite hobby is pretty sick and twisted. I also wonder if he has ever taken his kids to the zoo? And if so, what the conversation was like? "Oh daddy there's a mountain Gorilla, they say there's only about a thousand left in the wild, have you killed one of them?" How he could answer them is baffling.
Where there you go then. Not only is this guy a prick. He's also a lying, unrepentant prick. His history of lying, cheating, bribing shows what kind of character he has. And now this farce with the lion. It's sickening enough that so many animals have to die to feed his ego, they also had to suffer as well and die under illegal circumstances. I hope Zimbabwe manage to get legal action on him and I hope it's not just a simple slap on the wrist like his previous conviction.
I know, right? lol. Let's have some perspective here.
He regrets it now. He thought it was legal.
C'mon guys is there really any difference between eating a chicken and shooting a lion?
On a different forum I often visit, this post would not be sarcastic and the annoyance would be at those thinking that one type of killing is justifiable but the other is not.
Anyway as someone said, the meat is murder thread is better for that discussion.
Livestock vs wildlife
RAWK? How far along are they in making the Justice4chickens T-shirts!