Will be our best, most balanced midfield this season but I worry that ETH will persist with Mount or put Bruno on the right side of attack to fit Mount into midfield. Mainoo looks perfect for the number 8 role.
Discuss.
Discuss.
Casemiro-Mainoo-Fernandes
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It’s beyond mental to be speaking about Mainoo in this manner already.
I don't see us dropping Mount after spunking £60million for him, not for the first season at least anyway.
We've created another problem for ourselves after fixing others (defence). One step forward, two steps back.
We've created another problem for ourselves after fixing others (defence). One step forward, two steps back.
Right? It speaks volumes about our recruitment.
He's barely kicked a ball in a competitive fixture. As always on here, the suitability of a young player for first team football gets massively overrated based on a good performance or two in a meaningless fixture.
Hopefully he'll go on to big things, but there is no way on earth he is going to become a mainstay of the first team week in week out at this stage. It is just not going to happen.
Hopefully he'll go on to big things, but there is no way on earth he is going to become a mainstay of the first team week in week out at this stage. It is just not going to happen.
Fabregas was 16 and from his debut you could tell he was ready and Wenger rightfully made him a first team regular.
£55m. I don't really understand it either but it's not hard to get the numbers right.
We don't need to drop Mount, we need to address the issue of Casimero being alone in the middle with everyone else high up the pitch.
Either a midfielder needs to stay closer, or a FB needs to invert and not just play higher, but closer to the DM.
Read a BBC article
It's ridiculous.
Mainoo shouldn't even be a second choice for any position... he should be someone you can bring on in games with 30 minutes to go when everthing is wrapped up.
Ah yes, Mainoo is the answer...with his whopping 1 start so far in the league, which was a substitute appearance against Leicester. He played 10 minutes at the end of the game whilst we were 3-0 up.
I would like to see him given some chances, but there's absolutely no way that he's the best person to go into that position right now. Bringing him on as a sub and playing him in cup games is absolutely the right thing to do. Throwing him on in the league to play with Casemiro and Bruno as a starter is just lunacy. It's not fair on him.
I would like to see him given some chances, but there's absolutely no way that he's the best person to go into that position right now. Bringing him on as a sub and playing him in cup games is absolutely the right thing to do. Throwing him on in the league to play with Casemiro and Bruno as a starter is just lunacy. It's not fair on him.
Are you saying you read it in a BBC article or are you telling me to read one?
It's quite widely reported as an initial £55m with add-ons that can make it £60m. But we'd have to win the league or CL to trigger those. So you could say it would be worth it if we do.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65807884
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...nited-confirm-mason-mount-signing-chelsea-55m
https://www.skysports.com/football/...rom-chelsea-for-initial-55m-on-five-year-deal
We should have kept Fred. There’s no way Mount is a better actual central midfielder than Fred. Football people just like/need ‘newness’ every so often. The ability to chase, press, pass forward often albeit inconsistently is not something that required 60m outlay. We already had that. It’s a missed opportunity to get closer to the top by putting one more quality/upgraded piece in our first XI, and I fear we have squandered it with a sideways move.
I think you missed my sarcasm .
I did!
Are people really deciding that Mainoo is a better option than Mount based on one game?
It's clear that the balance of the team wasn't quite right yesterday but that will come.
It's clear that the balance of the team wasn't quite right yesterday but that will come.
So? A relatively inexpensive central midfielder these days.
Most balanced would be Case - Eriksen - Mount as 10.
Not saying that would be the best because Bruno does provide some amazing creativity on his day but those three would be the most consistent/safe in my mind.
Not saying that would be the best because Bruno does provide some amazing creativity on his day but those three would be the most consistent/safe in my mind.
With Mainoo being selected in what was essentially the first choice 11 in the friendlies against both Arsenal and Real, it's not too outlandish to suggest that he could be a first team regular this season.
Sounds like exciting season, where young players are finally seen as big part of the main team.
It’s our best combination but it shouldn’t be the case. A top 6/8 should’ve been as big a priority as a striker and goalkeeper as I’ve been saying all summer. Someone to partner Casemiro as an 8 or cover for him as a 6, Caicedo was the perfect match. Ten Hag must’ve had his eyes shut every time we played Brighton.
Mainoo is most likely not going to start a single league game this year and will be lucky to get more than 300 minutes off the bench in the league. His best hope is that we decide to play weakened side in League Cup or FA Cup and give him a chance there.
I wouldn’t expect him to have a meaningful role in the league or CL for another 3-4 years. He’s 18.
I wouldn’t expect him to have a meaningful role in the league or CL for another 3-4 years. He’s 18.
This. Caf posters never learn.
What if he's already good enough to start?
It's been one fecking game (a game we won by the way) and everybody freaks out, wanting our high profile midfield singing replaced by a kid who played just a couple of minuntes of professional football.
Maybe it would be a good idea to give the midfield at least some games to gel together and work it out. Ten Hag proofed to be a great coach, he deserves the benefit of the doubt. I guess he has a plan how he wants our midfield to set up and Mount seems to be a part of this plan.
Maybe it would be a good idea to give the midfield at least some games to gel together and work it out. Ten Hag proofed to be a great coach, he deserves the benefit of the doubt. I guess he has a plan how he wants our midfield to set up and Mount seems to be a part of this plan.
Just because you say "it will come", doesn't mean it will.
EtH has got it terribly one, his whole idea is just stupid. It doesnt work with these kind of players.
It’s annoying because anyone with even an ounce of sense could see Mount was an unnecessary signing, everyone apart from our manager apparently.
Mainoo has done absolutely nothing to suggest he's ready to be a starter here. It's another case of overhyping a young player and blindly hoping they'll be better than senior players. Many have cried out for Gernacho to start and he was crap yesterday. You ease these players in unless they're ridiculously talented youngsters like Rooney, Ronaldo etc
It was one game.
This midfield is never going to work, you don’t have to be Pep Guardiola to see that.
Then he'll prove that in time - but he shouldn't be thrown into that situation.
This is the same talk that followed after Weghorst stunk up the place week after week, it took over 20 games for it to finally sink in. It’s been more than one game (pre season included) and it’s going exactly how it was expected.
You can't compare Mount to Weghorst, he is some levels above Wout.
Pre season counts for nothing. I wouldn't even bother about the performances in the first couple of games of a season. They are just misleading so often. The important thing is to collect the points.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not convinced by this midfield either. But considering this is obviously EtHs plan A, it's absolutely clear that we will rightfully try to make it work and don't abandon it after one game.
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Of course, like we all saw that Martinez in a PL defence doesn't work.
I’m not comparing their skill levels, I’m comparing the situations. “It’s only been a game give it a chance” when we could’ve lost 4-0 against Wolves at home. The same goes for Weghorst as a striker and playing in Bruno’s position when he couldn’t hit a bar door to save his life.
The whole “pre season counts for nothing” is a myth as well, it means something. We had a bad pre season under Moyes and that season went to shit, and we also had a bad one in the final Mourinho season, the same applies.
If he's good enough to start you start him no? He might not need time. I don't see the point of deciding he's not ready before seeing what he can do.
Mainoo has played all of.....1 game in the Premier League? Let's take it easy.
Even Garnacho, who I rate higher, is struggling as a starter.
Even Garnacho, who I rate higher, is struggling as a starter.
If we are going to go full sunk cost fallacy then ETH might as well start packing his shit right now.
I’m just saying this thread won’t happen we’ve just bought Mason Mount. I wasn’t having at go at fee or player or manager just the thread
