[Adz_99]

He's been very good under Amorim. I think he gets an unfair amount of stick because honestly the £60m we spent on him.... it's not the worst money we've ever spent.

I think he'd get a lot more praise if we got him on a free.

 

[Andycoleno9]

Casemiro - 5

Was preferred by Amorim to stay on for the entirety and while he was solid in spells, he was overrun when Lyon’s subs took control of the game. His days in a United shirt look numbered now.

Daily mail. Why i read that piece of crap?

 

[Livewire1974]

Why i read that piece of crap?

Because you chose to read the Daily Fail

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Casemiro - 5

Was preferred by Amorim to stay on for the entirety and while he was solid in spells, he was overrun when Lyon’s subs took control of the game. His days in a United shirt look numbered now.

Daily mail. Why i read that piece of crap?

You didn’t just read it - you actually posted that nonsense here for everyone else to see.

 

[ThanksBoss26]

Dragged us over the line tonight. Needs his minutes managing before the Bilbao game.

 

[Andycoleno9]

You didn’t just read it - you actually posted that nonsense here for everyone else to see.

I know. And i am sorry!

 

[Poborsky's hair]

He will be a key player in midfield for Europa league. it might not be enough in the league, but he should have his last campaign. Maybe even extend one year to get the good momentum going and use him as a good cover.

 

[nacho cheese]

You're correct he does have that ability. The problem is that against physically imposing teams, we don't score some of the goals we did today. And against those teams (mainly in the EPL) we need need more than just vertical passing and it has to be backed up with pace and athleticism out of possession imo. I'm not asking for Rodri, Carrick or Kroos but it would be nice to have all-rounder midfield players like the ones Liverpool have had and currently Arsenal. Players who can play the box to box role and are a positive both in-possession and out of possession.

I agree with everything you have said above. Just wanted to make sure you did not miss including Eriksen to your list haha. I wish we had a younger version of him playing for us because he is probably the best forward passer of the ball who could control the game, in our team.

 

[Mockney]

Cant
Let
United's
Team
Capitulate at
Home

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Interesting that Amorim spoke about his change in role in recent weeks. He’s clearly more involved in the build-up now, with Ugarte doing the bulk of the ball-winning, while Casemiro has taken on a bit of both roles. For me, that gives a clear hint at the kind of midfielder Amorim is targeting for next season - someone all-action, but also capable of progressing the ball.

Despite Casemiro being a bit sloppy at times, he’s still one of the few players - alongside Bruno and Eriksen - who actually looks to play forward and pick a pass. That was evident again tonight.

So, even with his high wages, I’d keep him around next season. What we really need is a dynamic midfielder who can slot in next to Ugarte, Casemiro, or even Bruno when we’re chasing a game. That would give us the right balance of energy and creativity.

 

[Adnan]

I agree with everything you have said above. Just wanted to make sure you did not miss including Eriksen to your list haha. I wish we had a younger version of him playing for us because he is probably the best forward passer of the ball who could control the game, in our team.

Eriksen has been a very good player in the premier league. And there's no doubt about his quality in-possession. He's shown over the long-term in his career that he's a very good player in that regard and has the ability to cut teams open. I think we're now at the stage where we do need a maverick type of midfield player who can defend and pass through the lines. The teams that are currently setting the standards have players who can do both functions in midfield with all their midfield options. And we need to replicate that in midfield and the priority has to be to first sign players who will be a plus point in-possession and then secondly how they can improve our ability to defend in larger space against the opponent's transition. Players like Kobbie Mainoo and Sekou Kone have to step up to the plate and a new midfielder to compliment them has to be brought into the team. The current midfield options are nowhere near good enough with the exception of the aforementioned names if our aim is to implement a dominant brand of football.

 

[jem]

Quietly having a very good season.

 

[Antisocial]

Absolutely exceptional - his assists for the last two goals

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

I’ve yet to see evidence that he’s still a very good player though, it sounds like wishful thinking.

It really wasn’t wishful thinking, just a case of opening your eyes and watching the player.
Like so many other midfielders, when exposed it’s almost an impossible job. He’s always been an absolutely brilliant footballer and serial winner with an incredible mentality, that doesn’t suddenly just completely drop because you get one year older.
When he’s played in the right system, alongside the likes of Ugarte who has serious legs, you’d have to be blind to not see he’s still very good.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

I’m amazed that he doesn’t want to go and chill in the MLS or Saudi. Surely he can earn very similar amounts if you take into account tax.

All credit to the mentality of the player, who believed in his abilities way more than his manager and many of his fans. It’s that mentality that has made him so successful.
He didn’t want to go have an easy life in the sun, he wanted to be involved in games like last night. Let’s hope he now leads us to another European final, that’s a place that should feel like home to him.
Absolute legend of a player, delighted for him.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

He has quality with the ball(funny to say that thinking back the role he had at Real Madrid) but he can't play for 90 minutes, don't think he can last 60 honestly.

Hmmmm…

 

[Ekeke]

Quietly having a very good season.

I think its pretty loud

Its just he's on mega money that doesnt really fit where we are as a club right now and there are a lot of posters who already made their mind up on wanting rid of him, even though performance wise he's been one of our best players

 

[Scandi Red]

Happy to see him turn things around. Not at all opposed to let him stay for the last year of his contract even though his salary is a joke.

 

[OverratedOpinion]

Over the course of the past year (where he's been deemed as finished) he is in the..

99th percentile for tackles per 90
99th percentile for blocks per 90
96th percentile for clearances per 90

Compared to all midfielders in Europe.

Not bad for a man who supposedly can't move.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

I think its pretty loud

Its just he's on mega money that doesnt really fit where we are as a club right now and there are a lot of posters who already made their mind up on wanting rid of him, even though performance wise he's been one of our best players

Yep, he was getting tonnes of praise during Ruud’s short stint (as soon as he was playing alongside Ugarte), which was back in October. Our performances without him when Amorim came in were horrendous, as they continue to be (Newcastle).
You’ve hit the nail on the head though there, he’s often judged by his age/wage rather than his quality.

Personally I think he was a great buy for 3 seasons, he was the main reason for our good first ETH season, he brought quality and the right mentality into the dressing room, but as always, instead of bringing in top quality midfield reinforcements during his time, we stood still, and bizarrely he faced much of the wrath.

 

[jem]

I think its pretty loud

Its just he's on mega money that doesnt really fit where we are as a club right now and there are a lot of posters who already made their mind up on wanting rid of him, even though performance wise he's been one of our best players

Yeah it’s been great to see. He’s had two terrible games that I recall this season (Liverpool and Newcastle), but been very good otherwise.

 

[Yakuza_devils]

In hindsight, I know that he is a mistake especially signing him on big money and big wages at his age. However, if he can help us to win the EL to qualify for next season CL he would have redeemed himself.

 

[jem]

Here’s an interesting thought: given his recent performances, I wonder if he might be once again attractive to the likes of Saudi clubs. And if so, would we want to sell him?

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

In hindsight, I know that he is a mistake especially signing him on big money and big wages at his age. However, if he can help us to win the EL to qualify for next season CL he would have redeemed himself.

I disagree, we’ve spent big money on much worse players.
He’s actually a signing that for the most part has been good for us. If he finishes off here with 3rd place, FA Cup (even it he missed the final), Europa League, that’ll be two CL qualifications in his 3 seasons that I think we had feck all chance of without him.

He should’ve been a great buy, if we actually followed it up with great reinforcements after his first season, instead we loaned a bloke who couldn’t start for Fiorentina and bought a permanent crock in Mount.

Mistakes thus far are the likes of Sancho, Højlund, Mount. 223m of well… nothing!
If those 3 had given what Casemiro has, we’d be in a much better position.

 

[Yakuza_devils]

I disagree, we’ve spent big money on much worse players.
He’s actually a signing that for the most part has been good for us. If he finishes off here with 3rd place, FA Cup (even it he missed the final), Europa League, that’ll be two CL qualifications in his 3 seasons that I think we had feck all chance of without him.

He should’ve been a great buy, if we actually followed it up with great reinforcements after his first season, instead we loaned a bloke who couldn’t start for Fiorentina.

That's the problem generally with our recruitment. It still doesn't takes away the fact that we spend 70M, 350k/w for 29/30 y/o in decline. This kind of money should be for a top class player at his peak.

 

[Raven]

That's the problem generally with our recruitment. It still doesn't takes away the fact that we spend 70M, 350k/w for 29/30 y/o in decline. This kind of money should be for a top class player at his peak.

That's literally exactly what this signing was.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

That's the problem generally with our recruitment. It still doesn't takes away the fact that we spend 70M, 350k/w for 29/30 y/o in decline. This kind of money should be for a top class player at his peak.

He was 29 and in his absolute peak.

Apparently Sancho was also a younger example of what you are asking and he was fecking wank.

I just don’t see Cas as a mistake at all, if all our signings offered as much as him, we’d be reet. Instead 80% of our signings offer jack shit.

 

[bb8]

Here’s an interesting thought: given his recent performances, I wonder if he might be once again attractive to the likes of Saudi clubs. And if so, would we want to sell him?

Of course. You laugh your way to the bank if anyone wants to take him in the summer.

He's been fairly good lately (and was great against Lyon yesterday), but he's one of the highest paid players in the world. He's making far more than lots of players than far better than him at this point. INEOS will accept in a heartbeat if Saudi wants to take him.

You could buy two top talent midfielders for £350k a week. That's more than Bruno Guimaraes + Joelinton make combined (reportedly), for reference. Or MacAllister + Szobozslai.

 

[bb8]

He was 29 and in his absolute peak.

Apparently Sancho was also a younger example of what you are asking and he was fecking wank.

I just don’t see Cas as a mistake at all, if all our signings offered as much as him, we’d be reet. Instead 80% of our signings offer jack shit.

He was six months away from turning 31 when we signed him.

It's one of the worst signings in our entire history. Worse than Antony, given Case's on something like double the wage, and it was so predictable that he was too old. Look at any age curve research; 30 years old is far past the typical peak for a midfielder. The average is around 25-26.

You'll notice none of our well-run competitors make signings anything like this. Not a one. Nobody is paying £70M and £350k a week for a transfer this old. And as I said in the previous post, he's (reportedly) on higher wages than Bruno Guimaraes + Joelinton make combined. Or MacAllister + Szobozslai (you could almost pay for both of them and Gravenberch on Case's wages). Or heck, almost any midfield combo you can think of. There's only a handful of midfielders in the world making more than half his wage.

 

[Wumminator]

I couldn’t give a shit about his wage he’s been great overall for us.

 

[red_de_pologne]

Casemiro - 5

Was preferred by Amorim to stay on for the entirety and while he was solid in spells, he was overrun when Lyon’s subs took control of the game. His days in a United shirt look numbered now.

Daily mail. Why i read that piece of crap?

did they have it ready written before the game ended

 

[Jordan_mufc]

He was six months away from turning 31 when we signed him.

It's one of the worst signings in our entire history. Worse than Antony, given Case's on something like double the wage, and it was so predictable that he was too old. Look at any age curve research; 30 years old is far past the typical peak for a midfielder. The average is around 25-26.

You'll notice none of our well-run competitors make signings anything like this. Not a one. Nobody is paying £70M and £350k a week for a transfer this old. And as I said in the previous post, he's (reportedly) on higher wages than Bruno Guimaraes + Joelinton make combined. Or MacAllister + Szobozslai (you could almost pay for both of them and Gravenberch on Case's wages). Or heck, almost any midfield combo you can think of. There's only a handful of midfielders in the world making more than half his wage.

Nowhere near one of our worst signings ever. We actually got a return out of him which is more than we can say for Antony, Hojlund, Mount, Sancho etc.

He definitely shouldn't be on the money he is, but he's been one of our better players over the last 3 seasons

 

[Dan_F]

All credit to the mentality of the player, who believed in his abilities way more than his manager and many of his fans. It’s that mentality that has made him so successful.
He didn’t want to go have an easy life in the sun, he wanted to be involved in games like last night. Let’s hope he now leads us to another European final, that’s a place that should feel like home to him.
Absolute legend of a player, delighted for him.

Most fans are just commenting on what they see on the pitch, which is a midfield that’s been generally overran for the last two years. I don’t see the point in digging up old posts after he’s had poor games and now gleefully claiming you were right all along.

Im happy for him too. But it doesn’t mean he suddenly became a good signing.

 

[AjaxCunian]

Wasnt a mistake at all, when managed properly so valuable. Especially on the ball.

 

[Olecurls99]

He was six months away from turning 31 when we signed him.

It's one of the worst signings in our entire history. Worse than Antony, given Case's on something like double the wage, and it was so predictable that he was too old. Look at any age curve research; 30 years old is far past the typical peak for a midfielder. The average is around 25-26.

You'll notice none of our well-run competitors make signings anything like this. Not a one. Nobody is paying £70M and £350k a week for a transfer this old. And as I said in the previous post, he's (reportedly) on higher wages than Bruno Guimaraes + Joelinton make combined. Or MacAllister + Szobozslai (you could almost pay for both of them and Gravenberch on Case's wages). Or heck, almost any midfield combo you can think of. There's only a handful of midfielders in the world making more than half his wage.

Eh Harry Kane to Bayern

 

[Real Name]

Grandpa Casemiro still got it!

Was involved in all 3 goals of the Comeback and played a stellar game.

 

[Dans]

Eriksen has been a very good player in the premier league. And there's no doubt about his quality in-possession. He's shown over the long-term in his career that he's a very good player in that regard and has the ability to cut teams open. I think we're now at the stage where we do need a maverick type of midfield player who can defend and pass through the lines. The teams that are currently setting the standards have players who can do both functions in midfield with all their midfield options. And we need to replicate that in midfield and the priority has to be to first sign players who will be a plus point in-possession and then secondly how they can improve our ability to defend in larger space against the opponent's transition. Players like Kobbie Mainoo and Sekou Kone have to step up to the plate and a new midfielder to compliment them has to be brought into the team. The current midfield options are nowhere near good enough with the exception of the aforementioned names if our aim is to implement a dominant brand of football.

Morgan Gibbs White.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

He was at the centre of so much chaos. Look at the role he played in two of their goals. First the bonkers hand ball, then a baffling touch leading up to the penalty. Then he goes on to play a huge part in all three of the goals that won us the game. And he’s supposed to be a defensive midfielder! Bananas.

 

[Real Name]

He was six months away from turning 31 when we signed him.

It's one of the worst signings in our entire history. Worse than Antony, given Case's on something like double the wage, and it was so predictable that he was too old. Look at any age curve research; 30 years old is far past the typical peak for a midfielder. The average is around 25-26.

You'll notice none of our well-run competitors make signings anything like this. Not a one. Nobody is paying £70M and £350k a week for a transfer this old. And as I said in the previous post, he's (reportedly) on higher wages than Bruno Guimaraes + Joelinton make combined. Or MacAllister + Szobozslai (you could almost pay for both of them and Gravenberch on Case's wages). Or heck, almost any midfield combo you can think of. There's only a handful of midfielders in the world making more than half his wage.

Who pissed in your cornflakes?

 

[Tincanalley]

I see the negative bores are in here. Like fleas on a dog. But my oh my. Thinking back what a performance that was. Maguire I gave MOTM. Bruno was immense. Yoro too, great character. Dalot was great. Garna too. Everyone really did their utmost. But on reflection, what a performance from Casemiro. He was unbelievable in guts, in positioning in possession and out. And his passes won us that, no question. Love the guy. Still buzzing from that awesome game