Come on from the bench vs Leicester, ready to make his full debut against Arsenal?
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I'm assuming you don't watch a lot of football, because there's no way Casemiro is better than Rodri on the ball. Him winning 5 CL titles is totally irrelevant as we're not discussing his quality as a player (he's obviously a top top DM). Casemiro has plenty of other qualities that make him great and especially in the Real team he was playing for, being an elite player on the ball is not one of them.
Might see a different side to him now he doesn't have Modric-Kroos beside him. Not saying he's going to be a prime-Busquets/Rodri level or suddenly become an elite baller but who knows. I'm interested to see how he does.
We won, so to leave him on the bench was a correct decision.
Maybe, I doubt so though since he doesn't do it for Brazil (and he doesn't exactly play with Kroos/Modric). Still, he's a great player that WILL help United, but I just don't think it'll be enough to achieve ETH's gameplan if there's not another quality midfielder joining this summer.
As I've mentionned several time, I've always liked Casemiro, I'm just informing people here (because a lot of folks on this forum neve watch games oustide of PL/CL, which is totally fine) that :
- it's not going to solve most of the issues United has on offense
- He can have periods (sometimes weeks) when he's very poor on the ball and can barely make a decent pass. When Ancelotti came back he was having a really hard time and had terrible performances against teams like Villareal or Valencia, Zidane's last season wasn't great either.
That being said, he's a real professional and always has this drive that can only help United. When the stakes are high, he will step up and won't hide.
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Its as if people are forcing a narrative where he will fail
Nice cameo, best is yet to come.
I think it was Rashford, he lost it afterwards.
Yeah, those balls only work if there's a player that can hold the ball on the end of it. It is great to see some passing between the lines though.
He didn't lose, he passed it to left wing, i think it was to Fred.
I went and looked up the stats.
He's in the 80-90% for passes, passes completed, passes into final third, long passes.
And that's against all midfielders in the top 5 leagues not just DMs.
Not bad for someone who can't pass. Please desist with the can't pass narrative.
When he came on, the nervousness i had disappeared, I just thought, we'll not concede now. Can't wait for him to start. one of our biggest problems has been that when we attack teams were so vulnerable to a counter attack, He's exceptional at stopping them.
And that's where you make the colossal mistake.
In Real Madrid, Casemiro mostly played with:
Alaba - One of the best ball playing centrebacks in the world.
Nacho - A complete wingback that can help on build up and stretching the pitch
Kroos - Probably the best passer of the last decade at European club level
Modric - The best midfielder of the past 10 years and a player that excels in dribbling his way out of pressure and always being available to give other midfields a safe passin option.
Valverde - A false winger that helps on buildup as he's more of a box-to-box midfielder than a winger.
Benzema - As good as it gets when looking for strikers that can drop deeper, link up and act like a sort of false 9/ pure 10 player.
You say "can't pass narrative" and in the whole quote thread you reply no one says he cant' pass, it's mentioned that he's not as good on the ball as ten Hag needed and other players on his position that can dictate tempo without problems, that's why the coach was targeting De Jong who is that kind of player.
When a rival faced madrid they had to mark their players to try and stop them, in the list of players that you want to shutdown when facing Real Madrid Casemiro probably was the least bothered by pressure because if you put pressure on him, that leaves free Ramos, Marcelo, Kroos, Modric, Alaba, Carvajal, Valverde or Benzema.
If you face Real Madrid you want Casemiro to have the ball because he's the least dangerous and creative player with exception to their left winger (because its job is to make runs behind and not being involved in build up) and the CB pair for Alaba/Ramos, that's why looking at his pass completion rate or how many balls he loses is useless, he's shielded from that role by all his teammates, and at the same time he was the perfect teammate for them because he covered their flaws and acted as an extra threat coming from the 2nd line to try and score.
In Manchester United there's not a ball playing CB at the level Madrid had, playing Wan Bissaka puts more pressure on Casemiro with the ball, therefore you're forced to play Dalot (with his shortcomings), the most similar players to his teammates in Madrid are Fred (as a Tesco version of Modric) and Bruno Fernandes as a sort of more attack oriented Valverde. No Kroos, Alaba, Carvajal/Marcelo, or Benzema archetypes exist in the squad.
He's going to be under much more pressure when playing the ball, and he's never been that player nor has it shown he had the potential to be, in fact if he had any critics while playing for Real Madrid was his level with the ball, no one ever questioned his workrate and defensive job.
Thank you, some people here don't even bother looking at the arguments, they just see something they don't like about a Casemiro and go "Why do you say he can't pass, that's not true, you just have an agenda and imply he'll fail!!". Nobody said that, it would be absurd.
I suppose we'll see fellas. I have a feeling he's gonna be up there stats wise come the end of the season even with the United players to pass to.
I think if you put Mctominay in Madrid he'd lose the ball a bunch and would be the trigger for the opponent's press.
I take your point that the opponents had to worry about other players but you don't get stats like that without being a good passer of the ball.
I never said you guys think he'd fail. I said he's a good passer is all.
we thinking he starts on thursday?
Amazing to see Fred compared with Modric.
A few sloppy passes which I put down to him still finding out his teammates. But he's class, so glad to have him here.
A proper player
Some ropey passes and touches tonight, he did some good stuff too. I guess he’s going to need a bit of time.
Honestly, he was pretty poor. Passing completion must've been 60%. Lot of stray passes under real no pressure. Early days though, I'm confident he'll be excellent for us.
Lost the ball a few times but he's class.
I can sense he'll have a great impact
Some sloppy passes but much better passer than McTominay, Fred and even Eriksen it seems.
Has to start every league game from now on.
He's so good, love his one touch passes forward. You can see that he is not on the exact same wavelength yet but that will come with time but overall solid
you can see his class immediately.
once he’s called into the side he’s going to be incredible
once he’s called into the side he’s going to be incredible
We completely shut them down when he came on. That's the most important part.
He gets in the oppositions way a lot
Oh, God. He's so bad and we're stuck with him.
He's very lucky that Maddison wasted that free kick. Lost the ball so cheaply too many times.
He's very lucky that Maddison wasted that free kick. Lost the ball so cheaply too many times.
He's very good, but I thought he forced it too much at times. Still, he will change our play.
Looks like a promising young player. Scouts really uncovered a gem there.
i thought the same, also failed to intercept a pretty important situation which led to a chance for Leicester. Still not ready to start but hopefully soon
He was very good but anyone else he was trying to force it to Ronaldo a bit?
shut down the midfield, few sloppy passes but he didn't give the Leicester any room to work with after he came on
50-50 on his passing tonight.
Some gems, some howlers
Some gems, some howlers
Cool as a cucumber
Old habit?
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