Carabao Cup 2023/2024
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss three 1-1 draws.
The first got us knocked out of the FA Cup, the next puts us in a good position in our Round of 16 Europa League game, and the latest was an actual decent performance against Arsenal at Old Trafford.
All hopes for the season now rest on the Europa League - does Amorim have the squad to win it?
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99% we will be on Wednesday 1st Nov, as we play City on the Sunday before.
Feck me, us ST holders are paying a fortune to be in this Cup .
Every game is a home tie basically, except the latter two rounds. Absolute jokes.
Every game is a home tie basically, except the latter two rounds. Absolute jokes.
At least the game should be picked up for coverage again.
Going to be some big games in the quarters
Not watching so no idea if you’re just making up random ties or if these clubs have somehow actually made it to round 4.
Newcastle are looking good, but you'd hope by then we'd be in better shape and it'll actually be a game worth having hope for.
Was actually hoping for Liverpool just because we need a kick up the arse away from the Premier League.
Was actually hoping for Liverpool just because we need a kick up the arse away from the Premier League.
Not the easiest game we could have drawn….. 
Right after we play City. Nice. The Stripey twats will be right up for it too, you just know it. Hope we send them back crying into their greggs', really can't stand this version of Newcastle.
Oh no. How terrible. United fans get to go and watch United.
Macclesfield Town vs Doncaster Rovers
I’ll take that.
You just knew we wouldn’t get Port Vale away. Home draw check, decent PL side check. So predictable yet again
As long as it's not Brighton.
How did Doak and SoBoSly play tonight? Didn’t get to watch
Southampton vs Tranmere
It's amazing how utterly boring our cup draws are every single round, every single season.
Always at home, always to a PL team. It's remarkable.
Always at home, always to a PL team. It's remarkable.
And Newcastle
If not a PL team its Derby or 'Boro. Throw in Reading now and then too
It’s been a few years since we were away to a team like Yeovil or something, but I would add that those games are usually always the dullest things going
True but I also expect Liverpool or Chelsea at home in the next round in that case
That away trip to MK dons didn't go too well..
At least it's facing someone a bit different though. Not the same teams we play every year anyway.
Could be better but we're home.
Can't see Liverpool and Chelsea not getting through. Arsenal have a tough one.
Can't see Liverpool and Chelsea not getting through. Arsenal have a tough one.
Feck sake, not fecking Newcastle.
Us and Newcastle with the only really difficult games
Away at Luton in 2020 in the league cup, away at Tranmere in 2019 in the FA Cup
Nailed it
I have nothing against women’s football. I hope as many girls and women can play and enjoy as much football as possible. I’ve just simply chosen my sport…men’s football. And no amount of forced agendas will sway me to start watching/supporting the women’s game.
first two stories on bbc site this morning were women’s game related. Third story was about Utd v palace. Madness
just have a separate landing page for people who want that stuff. For me, they’re effectively different sports and they may as well include F1 and/or cricket stories on the football page.
I think 3 years can be classifed under "few years"
Stupid magpies again. They'll be out for revenge
Think Hitchcock's "The Birds"
Think Hitchcock's "The Birds"
You're exactly right - may women's football grow and if I have a daughter I'd love for her to go as far as she wants in it the same as my son. But there is simply no comparable sport where this pretence is upheld. The men's rugby world cup is on now - why is the punditry, commentary, advertising and rugby media pages not saturated with female rugby and female ex-players? In this sport, there is no pretending going on. The average person simply only has a bandwith and time for so much sport, and if you get one game a week, chances are it will be the most supreme, elite level- which is men's professional football. The strangest thing is I don't ever even here a general clamour for this intrusion on the men's game - women I know who like football never cried out for female commentators for example. They simply admired and found whatever joy or motivation the sport gave them in the talent of the elite male players, which seems healthier than pretending an interest level exists that doesnt, or that the reason it doesn't is due to sexism rather than competence.
It's really not that big of a deal to have women on sometimes...
I think it depends what you’re going for: insight/analysis or weight of opinion. Do you want someone to dissect the game, or someone who the audience can recognise as having been there and done it? Roy Keane isn’t the best pundit in the world, but sky have him on because everyone knows who he is and that he knows a thing or two about football. There’s an automatic credence given to his opinions as the viewer knows he’s been there and done it.
People watching the men’s game won’t necessarily know who a female pundit is who played 112 times for Leeds between 2001 and 2006, so there isn’t that same link made by the viewer. They’re essentially just there for analysis, which is fine as long as they’re good at it. Which, like with the men, only a handful seem to be. They just don’t have the fact they’re a big name carrying them through.
If it’s literally just about analysis though, you might as well get Tifo or statman Dave on, as they’ll do a better job than Roy Keane anyway.
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Who said it was?
The fact you felt you needed to comment on it and how you don’t like it obviously.
The only time you really get analysis from men or women on Sky is on MNF. That’s not what they are intending to do. Everything else is pretty casual. If you’re looking for it then you’re not looking in the right place.
Well you need to take a step back a couple of posts. The phrase is overused, but your previous post is quite literally a straw man argument. My post, and thoughts, are to do with the collective imposition on the mens game, which often has a subtext that it being a men's game loved and enjoyed by groups of men, without women, is somehow problematic. If you can't see that there is a constant, ongoing push to categorise the two sports as comparable - and the much repeated assertion that sexism or a simple lack of exposure or funding is what accounts for the chasm of quality difference between them - then that's fine, good for you. To me though, it is like many social issues imposed on sport in recent years - patronising, self-righteous and eroding the way the sport has been consumed and enjoyed for a long time in the name of a false version of progress.
Depends on the pundit. They had shay given and a lady on tonight, and neither were all that forthcoming in breaking the game down. They were essentially just guests rather than pundits.
On a big weekend game though, the likes of Neville, carragher, Keane, Scott, Redknapp etc analyse the game as it happens and review what went wrong. That’s their job, as keano would say. They go into more depth on MNF as they’ve got more time to prepare, but that doesn’t mean breaking the game down as it happens isn’t analysis.
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