I'm genuinely stumped at the moment, I still have a deep mistrust of labour going back to the Blair years, (that smarmy cnut should be up against a wall) yet fail to see how a party led by a man who's family are worth in excess of £30 million can adequately decide what's best for me.
Cameron & Miliband: The Battle For Number 10 (Overall Poll)
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Just vote Labour, Sparkz, or President Bush might get in again.
My parents were the same. I was about 27 before I found out!
I have pretty different politics to them. I don't know if that played a part.
My grandparents were like that but the jackboots and swastikas gave it away.
To be honest I think anyone who wants to be a politician should automatically be disqualified
I may be way out here, but I have noticed this much more since moving to Ireland. I don't know many "Labour families" or "Conservative families" - in fact, I know plenty of people who vote differently to their parents, who in turn vote differently to their own parents. In fact, votes seem more fluid in general in the UK, where one person may switch from election to election.
I'm not saying this doesn't happen in Ireland, but from my experience in my four years here it does seem people are far more entrenched in their support of FF or FG. The missus's mother will vote FF no matter what. No. Matter. What. They could announce new policy that every firstborn child is to be sacrificed on Inishmore to appease the gods of politics, and she'd still be voting FF come the election.
The younger generation do seem largely immune to this, mind you. Indeed, many aren't voting FF or FG at all, hence Sinn Fein's rise up the polls! But it seems to me that older generations will have a party that the family votes for and that's that. I've been told it's all to do with which side the family took in the civil war, though how much truth there is to that I don't know.
Your position is like opting out of paying NIs on the grounds that you haven't seen a doctor recently. I'm alright Jack - stuff the rest of 'em. (And of course I'll still benefit from A&E services without paying).
Only if you work on the assumption that unions are an essential service. I have absolutely no issues with paying high levels of NI or tax as I believe the services provided are essential. Free healthcare, education and security should be available to everyone and always state provided. I don't see unions in the same light because, in my sector at least (which is what I was talking about before you took much broader assumptions from it) I believe the employer is adequately considerate that we already get suitable input and protection without Union involvement, and the law is there to protect us in the rare instances that isn't upheld.
Socialists generally feel they can spend your money better than you can.
I hope that extra pint tasted good.
How do you think any of those things came to fruition in the 20th century? The 'consideration' of employers and the ruling class or the struggle of organised labour? And why are those victories being rolled back in the 21st?
Think it needs to be stronger at this rateMine too flatly refused to discuss who they voted for, so one day I told them I would vote Conservative when I was older. My mother laid into me and reminded me that my grandfather was a union bloke. The following week I said that I'd changed my mind and had now decided I was going to be a Labour supporter, which sent my father into a fury. To this day though my mother has never once told me who she votes for.