Bundesliga 2016/17

So I watched a few Bor. M'Gladbach matches last year due to the Norwegian playing there, Haavard Nordtveit. But the one who caught my eye were Mahmoud Dahoud, how do you guys rate him and his potential? He already looks so good for being so young. Already been linked to Liverpool if I am not mistaken.

Also how do you guys he reckon to the other often mentioned MF talents in BL, namely Leonid Goretzka and Julian Weigl? I reckon Weigl is obvious the best one, though he plays a bit more withdrawn on the pitch than Goretzka and Dahoud.
 
SwansonsTache said:
So I watched a few Bor. M'Gladbach matches last year due to the Norwegian playing there, Haavard Nordtveit. But the one who caught my eye were Mahmoud Dahoud, how do you guys rate him and his potential? He already looks so good for being so young. Already been linked to Liverpool if I am not mistaken.

Also how do you guys he reckon to the other often mentioned MF talents in BL, namely Leonid Goretzka and Julian Weigl? I reckon Weigl is obvious the best one, though he plays a bit more withdrawn on the pitch than Goretzka and Dahoud.
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In my opinion he's too good for Liverpool. His contract expires in 2018, so he'll probably move to Bayern or Dortmund or the PL next year.
 
Cristiano Lell said:
Rakitic :D

That Louis van Gaal rapid counterattacking football :drool:
That Breno Tymo central defense :drool:
Neuer :drool:
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But the 1st goal was caused because the two did not just have to deal with the strikers but the rest of the team did not come back fast enough. And Bayern had enough chances to lead...

My favourite Schalke match is this...



It is the other Bundesliga match in this season (the cup match Bayern lost) and Neuer's last match against Bayern for Schalke.
 
Line-ups!

Starting-11 FC Schalke 04
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Ralf Fährmann (1)

Naldo (29)

Benedikt Höwedes (4)

Matija Nastasic (31)

Abdul Rahman Baba (14)

Yevhen Konoplyanka (11)

Benjamin Stambouli (17)

Leon Goretzka (8)

Nabil Bentaleb (10) Klaas-Jan Huntelaar (25)

Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting (13)


Subs FC Schalke 04

Alexander Nübel (35)
Dennis Aogo (15)
Sascha Riether (27)
Sead Kolasinac (6)
Johannes Geis (5)
Max Meyer (7)
Breel Embolo (36)


Starting-11 FC Bayern München
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Manuel Neuer (1)

Philipp Lahm (21)

Mats Hummels (5)

David Alaba (27)

Javier Martinez (8)

Franck Ribery (7)

Xabi Alonso (14)

Thiago (6)

Renato Sanches (35)

Thomas Müller (25)

Robert Lewandowski (9)


Subs FC Bayern München

Sven Ulreich (26)
Rafinha (13)
Juan Bernat (18)
Arturo Vidal (23)
Douglas Costa (11)
Joshua Kimmich (32)
Julian Green (37)





I'm hoping for 45+ Minutes for Kimmich. And welcome to the Bundesliga, Renato Sanches :)
 
Interesting having both Geis and Meyer benched. Was wondering who'd pay the price with the signings of Stambouli and Bentaleb. They still don't make much sense to me.

Is Goretzka playing as the 10 in that lineup?
 
GhastlyHun said:
The bundesliga.de liveticker thinks so: http://liveticker.bundesliga.de/#,n1

Btw, I think Ralf Fährmann is really underrated, especially by the Bundes-Jogi. He should have been called to the national team for the Euros.
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Thanks :) How come Fährmann has so few league appearances for Schalke? Had he been a sub to begin with?
 
Very excited to see Renate :drool:

Is Höwedes playing RB at Schalke or how is this nowadays?
 
Damien said:
Thanks :) How come Fährmann has so few league appearances for Schalke? Had he been a sub to begin with?
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He's their number one for some time now, but he was injured for months last(?) season (or the season before).
 
SwansonsTache said:
So I watched a few Bor. M'Gladbach matches last year due to the Norwegian playing there, Haavard Nordtveit. But the one who caught my eye were Mahmoud Dahoud, how do you guys rate him and his potential? He already looks so good for being so young. Already been linked to Liverpool if I am not mistaken.

Also how do you guys he reckon to the other often mentioned MF talents in BL, namely Leonid Goretzka and Julian Weigl? I reckon Weigl is obvious the best one, though he plays a bit more withdrawn on the pitch than Goretzka and Dahoud.
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All 3 are big talents with the potential for WC. Dahoud most offensive minded of them, he shares some similarities with Gündogan. His defensive workrate has still huge room for improvement, though. For that reason, Schubert didn't give him a lot of minutes in this season so far. He has an exit clause in his contract and can leave for a meager 10m by the end of the season. I hope we'll be in for him.
Goretzka is a very complete player, who can take over any midfield position. He's tall, strong, good on the ball and very intelligent. He's destined to play for a big club sooner or later, if can stay free from bigger injuries.
As for Weigl, I'm sure he's had enough exposition for you to make up your own mind about him. There's also the CL of course to watch him, if you can't be bothered watching BVB in the BuLi
 
GhastlyHun said:
The bundesliga.de liveticker thinks so: http://liveticker.bundesliga.de/#,n1

Btw, I think Ralf Fährmann is really underrated, especially by the Bundes-Jogi. He should have been called to the national team for the Euros.
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Fährmann is ok, but he's not better than Ter Stegen and Leno. We have a few other goalies on his level in Trapp, Karius, Horn, and Zieler

Damien said:
Thanks :) How come Fährmann has so few league appearances for Schalke? Had he been a sub to begin with?
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Consistency issues. His last season was the first where he played reliably on a high level
 
2ndTouch said:
Fährmann is ok, but he's not better than Ter Stegen and Leno. We have a few other goalies on his level in Trapp, Karius, Horn, and Zieler



Consistency issues. His last season was the first where he played reliably on a high level
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I find it hard to call Fährmann inconsistent and then place ter Stegen above him :p
 
Schalke look pretty good so far, Bayern lose possession too easily.
 
I like the way Sanches tries, but he has to stop losing the ball asap.

Oh, ref's injured. Time waster
 
An in-form Ribery is still the best player in the league.
 
Ridiculous yellow there for Howedes, Schalke better so far.
 
Wonder about that Hummels on Konoplyanka minutes ago. Sure, Konoplyanka released the ball already but it was a dangerous play by Hummels there imo, late tackle.
 
Bayern better hope that Vidal´s knees stay intact in this season. This midfield of Bayern is extremely fragile. Impressive pressure by the Blues. Need to capatilise soon, though.
 
legolegs said:
He's really wasteful at times. That was such a big chance.
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That is his one real weak spot. Always was, probably always will be. Still the most complete striker in the world. If he would be colder in front of the goal he would be the best #9 right now.
 
Schalke clearly better so far. This midfield is an accident waiting to happen. Sanches played a woeful first half, Alonso is invisibile and Thiago ineffectual. This 4-3-3 looks useless.
 
2ndTouch said:
All 3 are big talents with the potential for WC. Dahoud most offensive minded of them, he shares some similarities with Gündogan. His defensive workrate has still huge room for improvement, though. For that reason, Schubert didn't give him a lot of minutes in this season so far. He has an exit clause in his contract and can leave for a meager 10m by the end of the season. I hope we'll be in for him.
Goretzka is a very complete player, who can take over any midfield position. He's tall, strong, good on the ball and very intelligent. He's destined to play for a big club sooner or later, if can stay free from bigger injuries.
As for Weigl, I'm sure he's had enough exposition for you to make up your own mind about him. There's also the CL of course to watch him, if you can't be bothered watching BVB in the BuLi
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Thanks for the info. With a buyout clause that low we've got no chance for Dahoud, considering he is German and all. Bayern will be all over that.

In your opinion, is Goretzka defensively adept enough to function in a midfield two with a player like Pogba who contributes defensively, but is mainly focused on attacking? And since you mention injuries, is he known to be injury prone?

Yeah Weigl I've seen plenty off. IMO will be one of the worlds top holding mids in the Carrick mold in a season or two. I imagine he is near impossible to prize away from Dortmund though.
 
The Neuer dandruff commercial is so cringy I nearly bit my cigarette in half
 
Kostur said:
Wonder about that Hummels on Konoplyanka minutes ago. Sure, Konoplyanka released the ball already but it was a dangerous play by Hummels there imo, late tackle.
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IMO that's a clear penalty, no idea what the heck Hummels was doing there. Got lucky.
 
I believe that it won´t be long until most on here finally realize how much of a monster Guardiola is when it comes to being a league manager (both in terms of Bayern and City). He gave Bayern such a huge edge in terms of overall consitency that it made the rest of the league look worse that they actually were. I have not seen Bayern under so much fire in quite some time. If teams show the same kind of guts this Schalke team does right now, then they become beatable.
 
Sphaero said:
I believe that it won´t be long until most on here finally realize how much of a monster Guardiola is when it comes to being a league manager (both in terms of Bayern and City). He gave Bayern such a huge edge in terms of overall consitency that it made the rest of the league look worse that they actually were. I have not seen Bayern under so much fire in quite some time. If teams show the same kind of guts this Schalke team does right now, then they become beatable.
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Yep. Guardiola is an incredible league manager, and it's exactly because of the way his teams play. You can lament about 'meaningless' possession all you want, but Pep's consistent success shows it's not meaningless at all since it allows consistent domination and control of games, regardless of opponent. Also of course it leads to fantastic defensive numbers.
 
Fun seeing Konoplyanka, who was yapping about how shit EPL is and he wouldn't go there not too long time ago, end up at Schalke.
 
Sphaero said:
I believe that it won´t be long until most on here finally realize how much of a monster Guardiola is when it comes to being a league manager (both in terms of Bayern and City). He gave Bayern such a huge edge in terms of overall consitency that it made the rest of the league look worse that they actually were. I have not seen Bayern under so much fire in quite some time. If teams show the same kind of guts this Schalke team does right now, then they become beatable.
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Schalke always was a sort of a sleeping giant and Weinzierl is no slouch.
 
Vidal is coming on, fecking finally. We can't live without him in midfield anymore.
 
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