Bryan Mbeumo

JE-365 said:
Very good player. I rate him and I actually think he’s more important player for brentford and more talented player than Toney was. He can dribble, can hold the ball when defenders behind his back, can cross and shoot, can take set pieces, not one dimensional player, can press, has good end product, and physically strong. I’m not sure where he’s going to play though. But because he played as second striker (his PL first season) and right winger (now), I think he will play in one of our no 10. I have also seen him used as RWB last season in the last 15-20 mins when they were behind by throwing more attacking players.
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Wissa is better than Toney.
 
BenitoSTARR said:
I like both I’m just surprised by this view.

Currently I’d rather either be on the pitch now.
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I like both too. I just think Semenyo slightly edges it due to his physique. The conversion rate is in favour of Mbeumo, but they rarely keep that up.
 
Break PSR.

We simply need more attacking players!!
 
Wing Attack Plan R said:
I deferred to your judgment on Gakpo, as he was putting up goals and assists and chances at a higher rate than anyone else in Europe - but he hasn’t exactly set the league on fire, has he? My Liverpool friends aren’t that impressed with him anyway.
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Gakpo under ETH would have been a massive flop.
 
Oranges038 said:
Just out of interest what exactly has Kolo Muani proven?
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More than Kolo Mauni.
UnitedSofa said:
I even double checked as well, feck.

Changed!
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Takes a man …!
Dwight Corke said:
Suggests the spelling of Mbeumo should be corrected and then misspells Cruijff, van Nistelrooy and Muani. Was that deliberate?
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NSIS? This coming from a guy who can’t spell his own last name?
UnitedSofa said:
Clearly deliberate, but I didn’t rise to the bait
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Kudos x2!
 
He's been very consistent for quite a while now. It's a no brainer if he's available for the right sort of money.
 
Did a bit more looking into Semenyo @andersj and he’s a allot better technically than I gave him credit for.
 
He’s one of those consistent 10+ goals a year players, I think when i checked he’s in the top 50 over the last 5 years for goals and assists in the PL.

His contract is up next year. I’d honestly like to see United flex more and bully a team like Brentford. Get in his ear early so he only wants to move to us, then exert some pressure on them to do a reasonable fee.

A shoulder charge on Franck would be nicely umexpected aswell.
 
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andersj said:
Yes, I think he is quite underrated.
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He’s a very good player but he’s also good where he is. He’s not a player that should be considered for this club. Not every player playing well can be good here. This isn’t the land of opportunity, that’s how we end up with the Antony’s of this world.

Unless he’s going to cost £15m and help us move up the table for 12 months then we move him on like a Chris Wood. No thanks.
 
Uncle Mainoo said:
He’s a very good player but he’s also good where he is. He’s not a player that should be considered for this club. Not every player playing well can be good here. This isn’t the land of opportunity, that’s how we end up with the Antony’s of this world.

Unless he’s going to cost £15m and help us move up the table for 12 months then we move him on like a Chris Wood. No thanks.
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I disagree. I have seen this attitude several times in here towards players we «missed out on». For instance Sadio Mane.

Semenyo is two footed, very quick and a unit. He is also great technically. Sometimes players like him lack output due to poor understanding of the game. That is not the case for Semenyo. He routinly shows up in stats like most possession won in the final third and is in the top 86 percentil for ball recoveries for attacking midfielders in the PL. A testament to his work ethics.

His npxg + xag is also actually higher than for Mbeumo, and in the 86th percentil for npxg. He is also in the top 85 percentil for successful take ons.

At 25 he is a bit of a late bloomer and I think he will keep developing for a few years before he peaks. But I also think it would be perfect for him to develop at a bigger club from now (or maybe this summer).

I also think comparing him to Antony is ironic considering how different the case is. Semenyo, unlike Antony, is proven in the PL. Furthermore, he is quite big and very fast. Qualities Antony dont have. Considering the fee for Solanke, I highly doubt he would cost alot either.
 
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andersj said:
I disagree. I have seen this attitude several times in here towards players we «missed out on». For instance Sadio Mane.

Semenyo is two footed, very quick and a unit. He is also great technically. Sometimes players like him lack output due to poor understanding of the game. That is not the case for Semenyo. He routinly shows up in stats like most possession won in the final third and is in the top 86 percentil for ball recoveries for attacking midfielders in the PL. A testament to his work ethics.

His npxg + xag is also actually higher than for Mbeumo, and in the 86th percentil for npxg. He is also in the top 85 percentil for successful take ons.

At 25 he is a bit of a late bloomer and I think he will keep developing for a few years before he peaks. But I also think it would be perfect for him to develop at a bigger club from now (or maybe this summer).

I also think comparing him to Antony is ironic considering how different the case is. Semenyo, unlike Antony, is proven in the PL. Furthermore, he is quite big and very fast. Qualities Antony dont have. Considering the fee for Solanke, I highly doubt he would cost alot either.
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Where did you get the percentile stats from?

My worry with someone like Semenyo is where would you play him? Wing back or inside 10?
 
UnitedSofa said:


Fabrice is very reliable too!
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Hawkins isn’t reliable. He said Mendes wants to leave PSG and interested to join United and United have made an offer. But now Mendes decides to stay and going to extend his contract with PSG. Mbuemo is very good player though.
 
andersj said:
https://fbref.com/en/players/efd2ec23/scout/12524/Antoine-Semenyo-Scouting-Report

Inside 10. But due to his physique he could easily play both.

He is very versatile. In fact, he used to be centre forward:

https://www.transfermarkt.com/antoine-semenyo/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/583255
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Ah so just compared to the PL not other leagues?

I’ve always looked at players compared to all leagues but I suppose in this instance it does make more sense to look at how he performs vs PL players due to the relative difficulty.
 
andersj said:
I disagree. I have seen this attitude several times in here towards players we «missed out on». For instance Sadio Mane.

Semenyo is two footed, very quick and a unit. He is also great technically. Sometimes players like him lack output due to poor understanding of the game. That is not the case for Semenyo. He routinly shows up in stats like most possession won in the final third and is in the top 86 percentil for ball recoveries for attacking midfielders in the PL. A testament to his work ethics.

His npxg + xag is also actually higher than for Mbeumo, and in the 86th percentil for npxg. He is also in the top 85 percentil for successful take ons.

At 25 he is a bit of a late bloomer and I think he will keep developing for a few years before he peaks. But I also think it would be perfect for him to develop at a bigger club from now (or maybe this summer).

I also think comparing him to Antony is ironic considering how different the case is. Semenyo, unlike Antony, is proven in the PL. Furthermore, he is quite big and very fast. Qualities Antony dont have. Considering the fee for Solanke, I highly doubt he would cost alot either.
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Not everyone is Saido Mane. There’s success and failure stories everywhere.

Mane had more stand alone performances where you could see his impact as an individual rather than someone benefiting from being part of a well drilled team. That’s important. He’s a good player but not one that stands out as being better than his peers for Bournemouth.
 
Uncle Mainoo said:
Not everyone is Saido Mane. There’s success and failure stories everywhere.

Mane had more stand alone performances where you could see his impact as an individual rather than someone benefiting from being part of a well drilled team. That’s important. He’s a good player but not one that stands out as being better than his peers for Bournemouth.
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Off course. And my point was not that they were the same either. But a common trait that we should take notice of is their skill set; pace, power and technique.

I agree Mane was more explosive and maybe even had higher potential. That being said, I could see Semenyo exploding the last half of the season. A bit like Mane did. For now, I actually think he has been more consistent than Mane was at Southampton.

Furthermore, I dont think it is negative that a player has proved that he can be a part of a well-functioning team. We have plenty that would not.
 
JE-365 said:
Hawkins isn’t reliable. He said Mendes wants to leave PSG and interested to join United and United have made an offer. But now Mendes decides to stay and going to extend his contract with PSG. Mbuemo is very good player though.
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Hawkins is very reliable - especially for french news.

Have you ever considered that humans can change their minds & things change over time? Or once footballers have made a decision that have to stick to it no matter what?

That’s the nauseating thing with football fans when it comes to journalists they’re credibility comes into question for reporting news that was true at the time & then when things change they’re like kids and they’re like “But you said!!! You said this is going to happen!!”

Being a journalist in football must be really hard & that is said with sincerity, with the manner in which football fans paint every as black and white and you can’t deviate from your decision no matter what, no grey areas
 
andersj said:
I disagree. I have seen this attitude several times in here towards players we «missed out on». For instance Sadio Mane.

Semenyo is two footed, very quick and a unit. He is also great technically. Sometimes players like him lack output due to poor understanding of the game. That is not the case for Semenyo. He routinly shows up in stats like most possession won in the final third and is in the top 86 percentil for ball recoveries for attacking midfielders in the PL. A testament to his work ethics.

His npxg + xag is also actually higher than for Mbeumo, and in the 86th percentil for npxg. He is also in the top 85 percentil for successful take ons.

At 25 he is a bit of a late bloomer and I think he will keep developing for a few years before he peaks. But I also think it would be perfect for him to develop at a bigger club from now (or maybe this summer).

I also think comparing him to Antony is ironic considering how different the case is. Semenyo, unlike Antony, is proven in the PL. Furthermore, he is quite big and very fast. Qualities Antony dont have. Considering the fee for Solanke, I highly doubt he would cost alot either.
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He's definitely physical over technical. His final ball can be poor.
 
UnitedSofa said:
Hawkins is very reliable - especially for french news.

Have you ever considered that humans can change their minds & things change over time? Or once footballers have made a decision that have to stick to it no matter what?

That’s the nauseating thing with football fans when it comes to journalists they’re credibility comes into question for reporting news that was true at the time & then when things change they’re like kids and they’re like “But you said!!! You said this is going to happen!!”

Being a journalist in football must be really hard & that is said with sincerity, with the manner in which football fans paint every as black and white and you can’t deviate from your decision no matter what, no grey areas
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The word of ‘’very’’ is overwhelmingly for Hawkins. Hawkins is considered as tier 3 in United reddit tier list means he hasn’t been reliable about transfer news related to United.

I have always consider that humans can change their minds & things change over time, but I don’t consider a human can change their minds within less than a month period. But it’s possible especially in football to change your mind in less than a month and human who does that is always called flip flop.
 
Would hope we prioritise Mbeumo over Cunha, the RAM role is more important than the LAM role. Amad as RWB benefits the team so much more, it also allows Amad to be 1v1.
 
Cheekiey said:
Would hope we prioritise Mbeumo over Cunha, the RAM role is more important than the LAM role. Amad as RWB benefits the team so much more, it also allows Amad to be 1v1.
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Will Brentford sell in mid season though?
 
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