He doesn't negotiate.The thing is even if we were to get Bruno we still need a striker desperately too.
But Ed can't seem to try to negotiate for more than one player.
Multitasking is not his forte!!
Bruno Fernandes | Signed
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Le'ts just wait two years for wolves to sign him on the free, and then try to buy him from wolves for 90 mil.
Please sign. Or next season We'll be with Lingars again
Fernand-yes? I’m on the vinegar strokes here lads.
Just think this has turned into the typical transfer rumour involving us and a Portuguese player coming from there, its purely their media pushing crap now. There was something in it, but I think we've walked away and this is a dead dealio, and I hate saying that, because we're desperate for someone just like him.
Wish he would do something, This is getting worse every day. Just don't know what to believe, and we are getting worse at negotiating deals than ever. Driving me Looney.
We should probably back out of this, or we already did most likely and the club are leaking fake rumours as reported. Too complicated and expensive, too many fingers in the pie and they all add millions to the fee. We should have focused on other targets, but I guess we won't make any signings this window.
Watch this space 2020.
I don’t think we are in a strong enough position to back out, just got to face facts that every selling club know Man Utd are desperate and whether it’s this deal, the next one or the next few we are going to get bent over each and every time.
Well no, not if we show some strength and bollocks now and walk away. No point saying "ah well we've started now might as well finish, take the wife and the kids!".
Don't believe all the media. If this is not done by weekend, Then I think we will pull out.
When did I say I believed. Only when a player is signed do I believe. I might say what I read in the media just to start something here, but that is no proof I believe it.No offence mate, but you seem to believe every report that comes out
Yeah, it is a shambles how we go about business. But this has been like that for a few years now, AWB was a relatively easy deal, Maguire was relatively easy, same as James and look how long those deal took.
I cannot imagine how we would negotiate when we have to compete against other teams for a player. We would probably just be so slow that the player would have signed. e.g. Haland.
If no other club was in for Haland, we would be negotiating with him still and not get a resolution.
I think it is in the interest for the selling team, buying and player to achieve a swift resolution. But at United, we have a very weird way of conducting transfers.
Surely, there is something fundamentally wrong.
You're probably right on that, actually but it would be my guess that Woodward has the final say. He certainly takes the credit for any (moderately) successful transfers we've done, yet will shy away from any criticism, from our mostly terrible transfer deals.
Think it is something to do with Mendes wanting a slice of the cake now, mate.
None of us are involved in the negotiation and yet we are making conclusions and accusations like we are.
No negotiations of any significance size work in a straight line to start with.
But then to speculate based on reports from people who are also not involved in the negotiations is just ludicrous.
Just calm down boys.
No negotiations of any significance size work in a straight line to start with.
But then to speculate based on reports from people who are also not involved in the negotiations is just ludicrous.
Just calm down boys.
Yes, Sporting had a re-structuring a little while ago which means a certain % of any big sale goes towards that. In addition, his last club in Italy gets a % as well. So its probably why Sporting needs quite much for him to actually get a decent amount.
If people think that he will come in suddenly and help us get the top 4 , then you are wrong.
Like Fred, he will take at least an year to even start performing at the highest level.
I have been asking the same question - when was the last time an attacker came from that League and made an instant impact in epl ?
Set your expectations right, guys.
Like Fred, he will take at least an year to even start performing at the highest level.
I have been asking the same question - when was the last time an attacker came from that League and made an instant impact in epl ?
Set your expectations right, guys.
I think Fellani had his uses, late game target man for one. I would also prefer him to Pereira.
Agree or disagree is all good, as I think both of us agree we need better.
And again this comes down to Woodward, we have had two windows and we are moaning about paying over the odds for the one single target we have been linked to. If Woodward actually did his job this is a non-issue I think we can agree. Yes?
Oh you mean how we extended Jose's contract and then did not support him in the window which just causes us to lose more ground in the League and again is 100% Woodward's fault.
You mean like that
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"......and Babel, in whose name men built a tower."
To actually weave historical OT text into a relevant contemporary reference to Ryan Babel, was, for me, a stroke of genius.
Oh Christ! Hope your palms haven’t got blisters and callouses. It’s been that long
If we did that the next club we start flirting with will know we are even more desperate then and the cycle will start again, we just got to face it and know we either pay a bit more than we would like until we are back in a stronger position.
We are the fat tart at last orders in the club now desperate to pull and everyone can see it.
I think if it's not done by the end of month, we won't sign him in this transfer window.
If this isn't done by the end of January, we won't sign him.
Certainly not this window, I agree.
If it isn't done by September we won't sign him next window either I feel.
Naturally.
Ha ha
That's a bit obvious.
I'm not saying he's our saviour and the solution for all our problems. Some players can take everything from 6-12 months to adapt, while some just seems to do it instantly. Torres didn't seem to take much time to adapt and sadly performed perfectly for Liverpool from minute 1 even though he came from the Spanish league.
Even if he takes some time to adapt I fail to see how he can be any worse than our current options...
If this isn't done, then we really need to start looking at the board. You cannot talk about a rebuild for so long then decide not to do anything when the time to actually build turns up. Make no mistake about it, this is not Sir Alex' United where could afford to wait idly for the right time and price of signings. For us, there has to be value in the market. We are supposed to be catching up, trying to get back to where we are. And the sooner we can do this, the better. We can't talk about that and talk about what we can do in the market, yet decide to miss an opportunity to fix one of the positions that we have and have consistently had trouble with over the last 6 years.
Signing less players because we signed badly prior doesn't make sense. Should we not be trying to sign more players to recover from the mistakes that we had previously made. We can't afford to go into another season with players like Pereira and Lingard playing regularly for us and cannot continue to struggle through this current season with the midfield as thin as it is. There is no excuse for it.
Signing less players because we signed badly prior doesn't make sense. Should we not be trying to sign more players to recover from the mistakes that we had previously made. We can't afford to go into another season with players like Pereira and Lingard playing regularly for us and cannot continue to struggle through this current season with the midfield as thin as it is. There is no excuse for it.
OK, Matt Judge negotiates but Ed is always in the background so it's the same.
Spot on and Ed, the board and the owners can start by taking a pay cut. That could bridge the gap on this deal at least.
Perfectly summed up.
We cannot go into another season talking about a rebuild. Ole would have been in the job 18 months by then.
The time to talk it over, I do not think we will make the signings fans think we would. We need 5 players we will end up getting 2 max in the summer.
Action must be taken against the board im afraid.
Simon Stone reckons - BruNO
@sistoney67: Fair to say all sides in agreement that Bruno Fernandes deal as it stands will not be agreed. Needs Sporting to either lower their demands or United to increase what they are offering.
So deal not yet agreed and if nothing changes then he won’t sign for us. Excellent work from Simon Stone there.
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