He already left. the new presenter was on today. However if that is his new job then can’t help but laugh.
Bruno Fernandes | Signed
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People are over reacting. The market is heavily inflated at the moment. 60-70M is the equivalent of what 30-35M was 10 years ago.
Bang average players go for 25M these days.
But its amazing and somewhat not surprising what doubling your salary can do to your perspectives though.
Think Sporting know how much we need him and are trying to extract the highest amount possible. Which you can't blame them for as he is their most important player. Cant understand why we are negotiating fee now, when this should have already been done and he should be signed already.
Really hoping that this transfer goes through but if it does I think it will drag on until the end of the window. Not ideal if we sign him at the end of the window but better than not signing him at all.
If we win today we could be 2 points behind Chelsea and have a decent chance of getting Champions League and his addition could give us an even better chance of doing so.
Really hoping that this transfer goes through but if it does I think it will drag on until the end of the window. Not ideal if we sign him at the end of the window but better than not signing him at all.
If we win today we could be 2 points behind Chelsea and have a decent chance of getting Champions League and his addition could give us an even better chance of doing so.
Exactly, Newcastle wanted £50m for Longstaff and want £20m for Dwight Gayle, a Championship striker!
This all reeks of PR exercise to suit all parties. We negotiated hard to not over pay, Sporting got the maximum and got him to play in the Derby, etc.
I can't see how he doesn't come this window now.
I can't see how he doesn't come this window now.
Also guys Fernandes is not an 8. The fact that he tracks back a lot does not make him an 8. What 8 player scores and assists the amount of goals he has done. You are misinterpreting work rates with position. He is best in and around the final third, that is where his price tag is worth. He also drops out wide a lot does that make him a winger? no.
I am sure he would drop deeper if United asked if it benefitted the team but then you are negating him of his best qualities as a player. If you are paying 70M for him then play him where he is most effective.
I am sure he would drop deeper if United asked if it benefitted the team but then you are negating him of his best qualities as a player. If you are paying 70M for him then play him where he is most effective.
Tbf Maguire has been disappointing in one aspect, and that is goalscoring.
He had a handful of sitters during the season and didn't bury any, and I think it cost us about 3-4 points.
I fully expect him start finding the net at some point. With Bruno, he'll get better delivery, which is a good start.
I agree but I just dont think he would IMO. I could very well be wrong but I myself would not sell him until the summer. It is the smarter move because w have the European championship and if he performs well his price is justified or goes up with more potential suitors. Also the big 3 in Portugal almost never sell their best players in January.
Lastly the president is in a very hot seat right now and a lot of people are on edge so selling Bruno in January after stating to the fans in the summer that we did not need to sell him because we sold other players which allowed us to keep him would potentially speed up his more then likely removal as president.
Watch us pay £70m and play him in RW.
Maguire has been very good.
The sitters have been frustrating. They all seemed to come in games where we were losing too. He could easily have rescued a few points for us.
Is he any good at corners?
And Pogba.. the summer is pretty likely.
They usually are until they join.
Exactly! In what world is Longstaff a 50M player. In a normal market at best 10M and that is only and only because he plays in the prem so prices are naturally higher. Dwight gale would struggle to be worth more then 7M in a normal market yet they want 20M.
The market is fecked atm. Centerbacks go for 80M and probably soon will reach 100M. 18 year old kids greener then the grass in spring go for "120M" and this season has justified just how absurd that price is.
Now in this market people want to lose there shit over 70M for a player who has been BY FAR and undoubtedly the best player playing in Portugal for the better part of 3 season. who is at the perfect time to make a move? Its laughable. The funny thing is...if Bruno played for Porto or Benfica they would ask for 100M and most on here would have no problem dropping 70M on him. Sporting have traditionally been fecked and rinsed for all there best assets through out history for basically the equivalent of a bag of peanuts and now everyone is mad Sporting want the Money they want for arguably the third or 4th best Portuguese player active?
"Very good" is a bit of a stretch. He is maybe better than all our other useless centre backs but the bar is very low.
That's true, sadly!
Says nothing about how big a club they would be though.
just blows my mind"hmm that guy scored 34 goals and got 17 assists last season and has a chance of doing the same this season....I have an idea! lets push him further away from goal and drop him deeper in the midfield negating him of his best qualities!"
Where is the logic in that
Can’t disagree with any sentiments here.
People are at the stage of making scenarios up in their head and being annoyed about them
I am not saying "paying a fortune" for Bruno is the right answer to our problems but signing another average Championship player with potential for £17m certainly isn't IMO. I think we overpaid for James as his ceiling is not that high.
I’d love to be a spy on the wall during negotiations! I wonder what they do day after day? Surely team A sets a price; team B responds within a few minutes with an offer. Surely it could all be thrashed out in a couple of hours!? It amazes me how long a negotiation takes!
All the briefings that this was close came when there was pressure building up against the Glazers and Woodward.... I really hope this happens but it is looking like it was just a pr stunt to stop that.
I agree with you. I just hope we pay up as we need the quality he has in this team.
If there was a direct negotiation between 2 people with nobody else involved, that's probably how long it would take. Negotiating such big deals have lots of parties involved, not to mention that every move most likely needs to be discussed with board members etc.
wondered about that too, given that they seem to take the same amount of time as years ago even though technology has progressed greatly in the meantime. Makes me wonder if they are using snail mail or telegram or something like that instead of emails and other modern forms of communication...
Still surprised a "big club" always manages to out themselves at a disadvantage during negotiations.
Constantly putting all our eggs in one basket.
Sporting have us by the balls , they know we need midfielders and they also know we have no back up plans on the market. They can sit tight and negotiate a higher fee with ease.
Constantly putting all our eggs in one basket.
Sporting have us by the balls , they know we need midfielders and they also know we have no back up plans on the market. They can sit tight and negotiate a higher fee with ease.
There is nothing new about this Saga.
The selling club wants as much as possible
The buying club wants to pay as little as possible
they are starting points in the negotiation
Add to that premiums such as:
January transfer window usually favours the Seller
The Manchester United Tax
Everyone including the seller knows United really need to strengthen that position to increase the chances of a top 4 finish
The difference is the large amount of theories, speculation, and in some cases deliberately misleading information
being peddled by every person wishing to either influence the outcome or sound like they know something others don't.
That's part of Manchester United being a big club, with many fans, some who also have an agenda of some sort.
Papers and other outlets need to sell stories, saying they are working to find a deal that both sides are happy with is boring,
and does not sell as all the exaggerated theories I have read
I don't know the statistics, but I imagine more than 70% find a compromise that both sides are happy with,
and the deal is done,
Anti Ole, Glazer, Ed fans will spin in to suit them
Pro Ole, Glazer, Ed fans will spin it to suit them
Pro Ole, Anti Glazer, anti-Ed fans will spin another way completely.
Same information, different interpretations, thats life!
The selling club wants as much as possible
The buying club wants to pay as little as possible
they are starting points in the negotiation
Add to that premiums such as:
January transfer window usually favours the Seller
The Manchester United Tax
Everyone including the seller knows United really need to strengthen that position to increase the chances of a top 4 finish
The difference is the large amount of theories, speculation, and in some cases deliberately misleading information
being peddled by every person wishing to either influence the outcome or sound like they know something others don't.
That's part of Manchester United being a big club, with many fans, some who also have an agenda of some sort.
Papers and other outlets need to sell stories, saying they are working to find a deal that both sides are happy with is boring,
and does not sell as all the exaggerated theories I have read
I don't know the statistics, but I imagine more than 70% find a compromise that both sides are happy with,
and the deal is done,
Anti Ole, Glazer, Ed fans will spin in to suit them
Pro Ole, Glazer, Ed fans will spin it to suit them
Pro Ole, Anti Glazer, anti-Ed fans will spin another way completely.
Same information, different interpretations, thats life!
Yes it's still a lot of money..
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Tbf until they either sign or don’t, that’s all any transfer is. Everything is kept under wraps, unless the club(s) want to leak it and even then it’s been spun so much you don’t know if it’s true. It’s all a load of bollocks that none of us have the first idea about but insist on speculating on anyway. Then we post tweets from similarly clueless speculators in an effort to wag our dicks at people who disagree with our speculation, because it sounds too different from their own uninformed speculation.
I miss the good old days when you could come home from work one day and suddenly Anderson and Nani had appeared out of nowhere.
Wish we could pull off what we did with the Lukaku deal. Real were playing hardball so we just did a deal with someone else whilst everyone was focused on the Morata transfer. If we don't want to pay, we should forget Sporting and bring in an alternate target.
To completely make something up just to be annoyed about it is a bit pointless though
It is, I agree. I mean, what are the facts? We’re trying to sign Bruno Fernandes. Anything past that is anyone’s guess, so it’s just wasted energy.
I agree but the problem is who can we get this month? I’d take Grealish but unsure how realistic that transfer is. Also if Villa go down he should be a lot cheaper.
This club is a joke. Nearly every single transfer is a saga of some sort. Could have got him in the summer when he was cheaper, when we needed him as much then as we do now, but we briefed we weren't interested! But all of a sudden we are again. Club reeks of incompetence.
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