I'd call it about half and half. You guys get the settings and most of the actors due to the need for anything remotely resembling medieval times to appear British but the source material is American written, American adapted, and American produced, so I don't think you get to take full credit.
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I'd call it about half and half. You guys get the settings and most of the actors due to the need for anything remotely resembling medieval times to appear British but the source material is American written, American adapted, and American produced, so I don't think you get to take full credit.
My eyes died reading that.
Thankfully I haven't seen the US version of The Killing. If there's one thing I'm pleased about the Beeb license fee is that they put subtitles on the original for BBC Four viewers. Season 2 was probably the best thing I've seen on TV the last year, shame it was only ten episodes.
We don't take the credit as we don't fund it, or commission it.
In the future it is going to be interesting to see how UK commissioning goes, Sky are really stepping it up year-on-year and have the money to blow BBC productions out of the water.
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British TV is awful really.
Some absolutely cracking shows though.
Some absolutely cracking shows though.
BBC do make good shows, but they are the worlds largest broadcaster so you'd probably expect more.
But when they get it right, they get it right, Sherlock is a recent one that springs to mind. Great show.
But when they get it right, they get it right, Sherlock is a recent one that springs to mind. Great show.
I note that ABC cancelled a programme in the last few days that only began airing last week after two episodes, that must be some sort of record?
It is ridiculous how many programmes that are broadcast to a big fanfare and then get dropped before ten episodes have aired.
It is ridiculous how many programmes that are broadcast to a big fanfare and then get dropped before ten episodes have aired.
They are brutal over here, if a program isn't getting the ratings they cut it in a heart beat. I remember one show, Day Break, it was cracking and they showed about 7/8 of the 12/13 episodes. I was totally into and then they simple cut it.....bastards.
Apparently 61% of BBC output last was repeats. Saying that, maybe we should be grateful- I saw a bit of The Royal Bodyguard with David Jason last week and almost soiled myself in protest that my licence fee part funded it.
Wouldn't even call it half. Game of Thrones is clearly an American production, so in this pissing contest America gets this one.
I know last year Fox cancelled Lone Star after two episodes and that was one of the most hyped up shows in the summer.
Not even close.
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And several have been canceled before the first airing. One episode cancellations are pretty common.
I am assuming that one episode cancellations are simply the airing of the pilot which doesn't get picked up?
Though saying that I imagine you are going to say no.
Though saying that I imagine you are going to say no.
The decision to pick up the show or not happens before the show ever airs. So it's not like shows get a one episode audition and the network that airs it has to make a choice. Networks usually make a commitment to the show and pay for it. When a show gets axed that early, the network has already paid for a season and decided that it's not even worth airing the rest of the episodes, because they can replace it with something else and make more money.
Right, I thought they sometimes aired pilots long before a season is scheduled to air for the purpose of trialling it out, so I assume when that happens it has already been bought?
I don't think that's done publicly. I think that's all internally handled before the show is ever put out to the public. As I mentioned before, the TV networks are the producers, so generally you'll end up with a show bought by the network that produced it. Sometimes the network will decide not to pick it up and it'll end up bought by another network after being shopped around. On rare occasions a show will be produced by one network to be aired on another (House, Scrubs).
I don't think I've ever seen test episodes aired out to the public, but I could be wrong. Sneak previews maybe, but that happens a week or two before the premier, so there certainly isn't enough time to change anything, and that's more for tv critics so they can drum up a lot of publicity to bring in potential viewers. The premiers themselves are quite a big deal.
Fair enough then.
That does surprise me given how much they will pump into the start up costs of a programme and the associated advertising costs that they wouldn't air a pilot to see how well it is received before doing all of this, only to drop it in an instance if it proves to be unpopular.
That does surprise me given how much they will pump into the start up costs of a programme and the associated advertising costs that they wouldn't air a pilot to see how well it is received before doing all of this, only to drop it in an instance if it proves to be unpopular.
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This show got cut during the first episode when Kerry Packer, who owned the channel, phoned the studio and shouted "Get that shit off the air!"
They aired the rest of the season online.
I actually think it is pretty even I love a lot of American shows and British, obviously america puts a lot more money into it and make more episodes but I'm yet to see anyything made where i could say thats much better than shows like Life on Mars or The Fixer.
Spooks was another fantastic show but fell behind around the 5th season really need to pick it up again.
Spooks was another fantastic show but fell behind around the 5th season really need to pick it up again.
They have produced some good shows lately the first season of Strikeback was great, also The Take and really looking forward to the second season of Mad Dogs starting this week. Pretty much anything with Philip Glenister in these days is fantastic tv don't know if anyone watched 'Hidden' with him in last year but that was a great show.
Yes I know, I watched them.
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I'm certainly with Rupert on the rise if Sky..they've been accumulating profit for years and ploughing it mainly into Sport & movie licensing...now they're funding a lot of shows, and have the cash to ride a few flops out without the splash back the beeb gets for adventurous commissions. I certainly think they're the place to go for funding/commissioning if youre looking to make something. They're only going to step it up in the future. Hopefully they'll develop their advances into an HBO style output.
I'm certainly with Rupert on the rise if Sky..they've been accumulating profit for years and ploughing it mainly into Sport & movie licensing...now they're funding a lot of shows, and have the cash to ride a few flops out without the splash back the beeb gets for adventurous commissions. I certainly think they're the place to go for funding/commissioning if youre looking to make something. They're only going to step it up in the future. Hopefully they'll develop their advances into an HBO style output.
I guess it makes sense for them to keep them separate, but I would imagine they would try to use Fox for that sort of thing if they really wanted to skimp on funding. Obviously it makes sense to run them as separate businesses considering the different audiences, so I'm glad to see them not siphon off money from Sky to fund American production.
Actually now that I think about it, I'd imagine this might help with distribution of the more popular Sky shows, but it might end up the same relationship as BBC and BBC America.
I don't really know how News International works well enough to know whether they'd 'borrow' money from one arm to give to the other. Sky will have been making a good deal of money on it's own terms for quite a while now and have only really started funding their own produce to good effect within the last five years, give or take a few earlier low budget experiments like Dream Team (which capitalised largely on the football rights they already had) and some rather weak comedy efforts..
I'd imagine they'd be looking to get the bigger ones out to the US yeah. Their recent production of Treasure Island had Elijah Wood, Donald Sutherland & Eddie Izzard in it, so I can't believe they wouldn't have been thinking of getting that out on a Fox Channel at some point.
I'd imagine they'd be looking to get the bigger ones out to the US yeah. Their recent production of Treasure Island had Elijah Wood, Donald Sutherland & Eddie Izzard in it, so I can't believe they wouldn't have been thinking of getting that out on a Fox Channel at some point.
Sky paid fecking gazillions to get stuff like Mad Men and other exclusivity rights to show stuff like one day after America for Sky Atlantic. I'm still baffled as to why they haven't bought Breaking Bad for that channel yet, it'd probably cost like 1/10th of what Mad Men did, and it's every bit as good.
I've never really watched their home grown stuff, mostly always seems over produced and well looks awful, except for the Take, which was the Tom Hardy showcase, brilliant, but the follow up wasn't that great. Mad Dogs was eh, but thats all I've seen from them.
Dream Team was legendary though, good shout Mock. Footballs never been so good.
I've never really watched their home grown stuff, mostly always seems over produced and well looks awful, except for the Take, which was the Tom Hardy showcase, brilliant, but the follow up wasn't that great. Mad Dogs was eh, but thats all I've seen from them.
Dream Team was legendary though, good shout Mock. Footballs never been so good.