Bob Woolmer found Dead!

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"We've been speaking to the doctors and they think it is either stress or a heart attack," Russell Woolmer, his son, told South African radio from Cape Town. "There was a lot of stress in his job and it may have been stress that caused it. We're all very shocked and we don't know what to do."
 
The tv news are reporitng that it was an overdoes of prescription medicine and alcohol. No suggestion so far that it wasn't an accidental overdose.
 
I missed the news due to an 8 year old faffing around getting ready for school. What is the latest?
 
Reporitng ins't a typo. It is the same as reporting only done by Sun type journalists i.e. invented because it is quicker.
 
Woolmer's death 'is suspicious'

KINGSTON, Jamaica (Reuters) - Pakistan cricket coach Bob Woolmer's death at the World Cup on Sunday is now being treated as "suspicious" by Jamaican police, the deputy commissioner Mark Shields told a news conference on Tuesday.

"Having met the pathologist, medical personnel and other investigators, there is now sufficient information to continue a full investigation into the circumstances surrounding the death of Mr Woolmer which we are now treating as suspicious," Shields said.

"We have already informed the Woolmer family of this development and we are also in close contact with the Pakistan team management, Cricket World Cup and the ICC (International Cricket Council) to ensure that all the parties are kept informed of the ongoing investigation."

One of the top coaches in the world, Woolmer, 58, was found unconscious in his Kingston hotel room on Sunday less than 24 hours after their World Cup defeat by Ireland and pronounced dead in hospital later that day.

Reports from the Pakistan camp at the time said that Woolmer was discovered by hotel staff on the floor of his room with his mouth wide open, blood was discovered on the bathroom floor, there was vomit on the walls and signs of diarrhea.

Pakistan team spokesman Pervez Mir told Reuters that they were considering whether to play their final World Cup match against Zimbabwe in Kingston on Wednesday.

"This is something to be readdressed. We will be discussing it with the players, the team and the ICC," he said.

"Obviously suspicious could be anything at this moment. It could be something serious, it could be something not serious. We have a man who is down and we don't know the reason why."

'NO SUSPECTS'

Shields told reporters that "we have no suspects."

The governing body, the ICC, refused to comment when contacted by Reuters on the police statement but spokesman Sami-ul-Hasan said that they expected the match to go ahead.

Pakistan were considered one of the leading contenders to win a title they claimed in 1992 but the shock defeat to Ireland coupled with an opening-day defeat by hosts West Indies doomed them to an early exit.

The elimination was greeted with fury by fans back home in the cricket-crazy nation who burned effigies of the players.

The seven-week World Cup culminates on April 28 with the final in Barbados.
 
Salvation said:
Quicker yet bollocks. Derrived from "Report" and "Irritating"

Explain Overdoes as well...

Erm .. he was overdoing the pills and booze?

Best I can do at short notice.
 
Justin said:
KINGSTON, Jamaica (Reuters) - Pakistan cricket coach Bob Woolmer's death at the World Cup on Sunday is now being treated as "suspicious" by Jamaican police, the deputy commissioner Mark Shields told a news conference on Tuesday.

"Having met the pathologist, medical personnel and other investigators, there is now sufficient information to continue a full investigation into the circumstances surrounding the death of Mr Woolmer which we are now treating as suspicious," Shields said.

"We have already informed the Woolmer family of this development and we are also in close contact with the Pakistan team management, Cricket World Cup and the ICC (International Cricket Council) to ensure that all the parties are kept informed of the ongoing investigation."

One of the top coaches in the world, Woolmer, 58, was found unconscious in his Kingston hotel room on Sunday less than 24 hours after their World Cup defeat by Ireland and pronounced dead in hospital later that day.

Reports from the Pakistan camp at the time said that Woolmer was discovered by hotel staff on the floor of his room with his mouth wide open, blood was discovered on the bathroom floor, there was vomit on the walls and signs of diarrhea.

Pakistan team spokesman Pervez Mir told Reuters that they were considering whether to play their final World Cup match against Zimbabwe in Kingston on Wednesday.

"This is something to be readdressed. We will be discussing it with the players, the team and the ICC," he said.

"Obviously suspicious could be anything at this moment. It could be something serious, it could be something not serious. We have a man who is down and we don't know the reason why."

'NO SUSPECTS'

Shields told reporters that "we have no suspects."

The governing body, the ICC, refused to comment when contacted by Reuters on the police statement but spokesman Sami-ul-Hasan said that they expected the match to go ahead.

Pakistan were considered one of the leading contenders to win a title they claimed in 1992 but the shock defeat to Ireland coupled with an opening-day defeat by hosts West Indies doomed them to an early exit.

The elimination was greeted with fury by fans back home in the cricket-crazy nation who burned effigies of the players.

The seven-week World Cup culminates on April 28 with the final in Barbados.

This is just awful. Hate to think that he may have suffered in death.
Bob seemed like such a nice guy too!
 
It was just reported on the Aussie TV that the Police are looking at this as a possible murder.

If true - Kinell.
 
rotherham_red said:
bladdy hell!

this is not the time to speculate...

god i hate the media!
It's got nothing to do with speculation and the media.
 
Dumpstar said:
Woolmer knew too much of the Pakistani drugs coverup and was going to expose all in his new book after signing for England. :nervous:

Uncanny how accurate I was with my suspicions. Woolmer knew too much and unfortunately for him he was an outsider (therefore not prone to threats or bribery). Poor guy.

The spate of 10 or so resignations straight afterwards sealed my belief this had more to do with it than just cricket.
 
Sounds very fishy..! An absolute tradegy / outrage whatever, this just takes the shine off the whole competition now and Irelands victory which IMO was a throughly deserved one. If true what price is worth being involved in Cricket management. Woolmer was a super cricketer never deserved this at all, lets hope it's not a murder, if it is they should seriously look at whether the competition continues.

After I've seen England play in Antigua though...;)
 
Rumours of marks around his necks and the involvement of bookies, seems to be getting worse and worse.
 
The toxicology report may still be a couple of days away :(
 
With no official confirmation through Wednesday of the cause of Bob Woolmer's death, the only statement came late at night from Karl Angell, the Jamaica Constabulary Force's director of communications, that said a second opinion was being sought on the autopsy. However, Thursday's editions of two leading Jamaican newspapers quoted unnamed police sources as saying that that Woolmer may have been strangled to death, and Woolmer's widow Gill conceded there was a possibility of his being murdered.
 
mehro said:
With no official confirmation through Wednesday of the cause of Bob Woolmer's death, the only statement came late at night from Karl Angell, the Jamaica Constabulary Force's director of communications, that said a second opinion was being sought on the autopsy. However, Thursday's editions of two leading Jamaican newspapers quoted unnamed police sources as saying that that Woolmer may have been strangled to death, and Woolmer's widow Gill conceded there was a possibility of his being murdered.
Contrasting reports - many have quoted her saying any suspicion of overdose or foul play is "absolute rubbish"
 
Mrs Woolmer suspects enraged Pakistan fans may have murdered him. I won't disagree with that. The Pakistani's are cricket-crazy and would probably think nothing of killing the non-Muslim infidel who led their team to disaster.
 
As manic as sub Indian fans are, they wouldn't resort to cold, calculated and nearly immaculately carried out murder.

No, this was a business deal.
 
Sloan said:
Mrs Woolmer suspects enraged Pakistan fans may have murdered him. I won't disagree with that. The Pakistani's are cricket-crazy and would probably think nothing of killing the non-Muslim infidel who led their team to disaster.

Ignorant and ill founded statement.

Did you see the bearded cult, so called Muslim fundamentalists in the team cry their eyes out for "our Bob".
 
Right then, the lastest on the Woolmer saga from The Guardian:

Woolmer's death 'to be treated as murder'


Jamaican police are to launch a murder investigation into the death of the Pakistan cricket coach, Bob Woolmer, it was reported today.

Police sources told Channel 4 News that Mr Woolmer was "murdered and had a broken neck".

The news programme quoted a senior officer in the Jamaican police force as saying: "We're having to be very careful to avoid looking silly, but we will soon announce that there is to be a murder investigation and there will be an appeal for witnesses."

Commenting on the rumours that Mr Woolmer's death was more violent than first thought, the police source said: "A fracture in his neck created suspicions."

In advance of the expected results of further pathologists' tests, Scotland Yard said it was ready to help Jamaican police investigate the former England cricketer's death.

Several Caribbean newspapers have reported that some of Mr Woolmer's bones had been broken and that his throat had been bruised.

The Jamaica Observer reported that his "body had marks on the throat and that bones in the lower part of his face were broken".

The Jamaica Gleaner quoted an unnamed "high-ranking" police officer as saying: "A bone in the neck, near the glands, was broken, and this suggests that somebody might have put some pressure on it. We are now treating this as a homicide."

The claims follow allegations from the former Pakistani fast bowler Sarfraz Nawaz that Mr Woolmer was murdered to stop him blowing the whistle on matchfixing.

He said: "Woolmer's death has some connection with the matchfixing mafia. I've been saying this for the last four days, that Woolmer's death is not natural ... it's a murder."

Gill Woolmer, the cricketer's widow, said today she thought it a "possibility" that her husband had been murdered.

She told Sky News: "Some of the cricketing fraternity - fans - are extremely volatile and passionate about the game and what happens in the game ... so I suppose there is always the possibility it could be that."

"It fills me with horror, I just can't believe people could behave like that or that anyone would want to harm someone who has done such a great service to international cricket."

She said Mr Woolmer was not taking any illegal drugs before his death and rejected the possibility that he had committed suicide.

Mrs Woolmer said she had been given "some indication" of why police thought her husband's death was suspicious but did not reveal what it was.

"The second pathologist's test should be available, and as soon as we get that the investigation will be winding down and they will be able to send his body back to South Africa," she said.

Mr Woolmer, 58, was found dead on the floor of his hotel room in New Kingston on Sunday morning and died in hospital later that day.

The former Kent and England all-rounder's death followed the shock defeat of Pakistan by the debutants Ireland in the Cricket World Cup - one of the biggest upsets in the history of the 32-year tournament.

Jamaican police have previously described Mr Woolmer's death as "suspicious" but have made no official statement to confirm or deny the rumours of strangulation. They have said that initial findings of a postmortem examination were inconclusive.
 
Sultan said:
Ignorant and ill founded statement.

Did you see the bearded cult, so called Muslim fundamentalists in the team cry their eyes, for "our Bob".
The tears were probably shed out of fear of returning home to a lynching party. Besides, I wasn't referring to the players who would no doubt have formed a connection with their coach. I'm talking about the rabid, hateful mongrels in Pakistan we saw burning and cursing, demanding their players and Bob be put to death for their pathetic defeat to Ireland.
Such vicious and volatile supporters are hardly incapable of murder.
 
Bob was on medicine for stomach problems.. thus the pills... but it has come to light that he had been strangled...... thats a spur-of-the-moment crime.....

this could get a lot murkier before it gets any better....
 
henno said:
Bob was on medicine for stomach problems.. thus the pills... but it has come to light that he had been strangled...... thats a spur-of-the-moment crime.....

It's speculation at this stage based on stories that have appeared in the tabloids. We won't know for sure until the police release another statement....
 
This might not be new, but according to someone just on Fivelive, Scotland Yard will be called in to assist with examinations of ht crime scene in Bob Woolmer's room.

And a pathologist is flying out from the States.
 
Sultan said:
Ignorant and ill founded statement.

Did you see the bearded cult, so called Muslim fundamentalists in the team cry their eyes, for "our Bob".

:eek: Sultan, are you saying Inzi, Yousef and the other bearded ones are fundamentalists?

Because I didn't say that! :smirk:
 
Sloan said:
The tears were probably shed out of fear of returning home to a lynching party. Besides, I wasn't referring to the players who would no doubt have formed a connection with their coach. I'm talking about the rabid, hateful mongrels in Pakistan we saw burning and cursing, demanding their players and Bob be put to death for their pathetic defeat to Ireland.
Such vicious and volatile supporters are hardly incapable of murder.

How's the National Front doing nowadays?
 
henno said:
Bob was on medicine for stomach problems.. thus the pills... but it has come to light that he had been strangled...... thats a spur-of-the-moment crime.....

this could get a lot murkier before it gets any better....

If we ever needed Columbo, its now! :cool:
 
Nick 0208 Ldn said:
This might not be new, but according to someone just on Fivelive, Scotland Yard will be called in to assist with examinations of ht crime scene in Bob Woolmer's room.

And a pathologist is flying out from the States.

Oh God, not another f*cking episode of Miami CSI! :( :rolleyes:
 
So if a match was thrown would it be the Ireland match? I doubt it. I'd say it was the WI match. The players would have known the implications of losing to Ireland and getting dumped out of the WC. Although more money would be involved on that one.
 
Dumpstar said:
:eek: Sultan, are you saying Inzi, Yousef and the other bearded ones are fundamentalists?

Because I didn't say that! :smirk:

No Bro, it is automatically assumed by bigots those sporting a beard is a fundamentalist/terrorist, it was more a jibe at Sloan.
 
Sloan said:
The tears were probably shed out of fear of returning home to a lynching party. Besides, I wasn't referring to the players who would no doubt have formed a connection with their coach. I'm talking about the rabid, hateful mongrels in Pakistan we saw burning and cursing, demanding their players and Bob be put to death for their pathetic defeat to Ireland.
Such vicious and volatile supporters are hardly incapable of murder.

It's a style of demonstrating in that part of the world, nothing to do with religion. Indian cricketers were subjected to the same treatment after their loss to Bangladesh.

Leaders/politicians/sports stars effigies are burnt regularly when things don't go to their desire. Death will not have been on the agenda.

Infidel indeed. (cheap, stupid jibe)
 
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