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Can you guys see this one?
Can you guys see this one?
Well, he's not totally wrong.
Yeah.. I dont agree.. but it isnt exactly laughable.
Incredible, Champions but still so bitter...
http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=264798
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Sorry, is this moron saying that Balotelli and Dzeko are better than RvP??
Also I'd still rather have RvP than Aguero or Tevez. Yes it remains to be seen how he will do for us, but he was the leading goalscorer in the league last time and Player of the Year.
Even RAWK doesn't allow their members to refer to United or our fans as 'scum'.
Couldn't careless what cITY fans call us tbh. We think they're twats, they think the same about us.
feck them
feck them
I don't care about them referring to us as scum, because I'd call them or Liverpool that.
I just find it hilarious that some complete idiot said that their 4 strikers is better than any of ours.
I'd say RvP and Rooney are the top two strikers in the PL.
Do they have an excuse for the mass of empty seats for there opening league game?
I would say it is very much up for debate on who has the better 4 strikers. Certainly not an obvious answer
I think the best combination is potentially Rooney and RVP (only just ahead of Tevez and Aguero) but they have a better 4 in total because obviously Ballotelli and Dzeko would be well ahead of Hernandez and Welbeck at this stage.
Aguero is certainly up there. It's easy to forget that was his first season, in a foreign league, and he still achieved 30 goals, 12 assists in just 48 games overall. In the league alone, with his assists combined, he created or scored a goal every game.MUFCgal said:
And it goes without saying that Aguero/Tevez are obviously better than our strikers outside of Rooney/RVP. Hernandez and Welbeck aren't remotely close to them.
Don't like it bother you. Their fans think they have better players, we think we have.
It's football fans mentality
It's football fans mentality
Tevez is also a brilliant player when he wants to be. Dzeko is a great 4th choice striker to have, and Balotelli is a bit mental but still potentially world class.
Yes as a collection of 4 strikers, they'd edge it. But to say that their 4 strikers are better than any of ours, that's basically saying that Balotelli and Dzeko are better than Rooney or RvP, which is just complete crap.
As a front two, I think you'd have to go with Rooney and RvP. They were both the highest scorers last season, and in the Team of the Year.
If Tevez can keep his attitude in check and Aguero isn't out for any length of time, then this season it may be different. And the fact we've yet to see Rooney and RvP play together.
How does that work? Of course they are. Do you think Hernandez and Welbeck are better than all of City's strikers? You can't name four of theirs, and yet only use RVP and Rooney as ours.
RvP vs Aguero: RvP by the slightest of margins.
Rooney vs Tevez: Rooney, just. For his consistency in scoring even if not performing well.
Balotelli vs Welbeck: Close one, but perhaps Mario just. For now.
Dzeko vs Hernandez: Dzeko.
Rooney vs Tevez: Rooney, just. For his consistency in scoring even if not performing well.
Balotelli vs Welbeck: Close one, but perhaps Mario just. For now.
Dzeko vs Hernandez: Dzeko.
The big area they score over us is Yaya Toure. Well he isn't an area but you know what I mean. When we meet them this season that would be the battle I'd worry about. They have attacking talent as do we. Our first choice defenders are better than theirs IMO. But in the centre Toure gives them the edge. He's bullied our midfield in some of the recent encounters. Hopefully the addition of Kagawa and RVP will improve us on the ball enough to counter that.
Don't like it bother you. Their fans think they have better players, we think we have.
It's football fans mentality
This shit happens every season. Fans of rival clubs go through a player by player comparison and decide that there squad is much better than ours. Not just rival fans either. You often get United fans doing the same thing.
These sort of comparisons always miss the point that any football team is more than a collection of individuals. I don't necessarily disagree with player by player comparisons which give the impression that United aren't as strong as some other teams in the league but we've always been better than the sum of our parts. Thanks to our manager.
I'd rather have Webeck at this club than Tevez, Balotelli or Dzecko. He's 21, homegrown local lad and a lifelong fan with huge potential and a great attitude. He represents Manchester in this rivalry, he is the one living the dream that the supporters of both club have.
He'll go on to be a better player than Dzecko (some might argue he already is) and even if he falls just short of the ability levels of Tevez or Balotelli he will bring far more to the club he is at in terms of loyalty, desire, attitude. All this on top of his quality of play over a potential ten year plus period that he could be at the club for (maybe even longer).
Tevez and Balotelli however will give you moments of brilliance mixed in with moments of disruption, disloyalty and stupidity over a maximum four years period whilst commanding a huge wage before moving on when it suits them best.
You might say that on paper City have a better collection but in reality United have a better combination with a good mix of youth/potential and experience as well as a nice blend of personalities and harmony.
I know who I would prefer to play back up to RVP/Rooney/ Kagawa.
He'll go on to be a better player than Dzecko (some might argue he already is) and even if he falls just short of the ability levels of Tevez or Balotelli he will bring far more to the club he is at in terms of loyalty, desire, attitude. All this on top of his quality of play over a potential ten year plus period that he could be at the club for (maybe even longer).
Tevez and Balotelli however will give you moments of brilliance mixed in with moments of disruption, disloyalty and stupidity over a maximum four years period whilst commanding a huge wage before moving on when it suits them best.
You might say that on paper City have a better collection but in reality United have a better combination with a good mix of youth/potential and experience as well as a nice blend of personalities and harmony.
I know who I would prefer to play back up to RVP/Rooney/ Kagawa.
Good post.
Probably people on holiday, was sold out. As is QPR in two weeks.
Don't look a tit, take the piss out of our cup appearances, because we sell out the league games every week.
If I had to make a list it'd probably go like this:
1) Rooney
2) RvP
3) Aguero
4) Tevez
5) Balotelli
6) Welbeck edges it for me, just, and I think you'll see an improved Welbeck this season.
7) Džeko just behind Welbeck, one could definetely argue for it to be the other way around
8) Hernandez
plus we've got Kagawa, even though he's not a striker his best position as of now is still the role behind the main striker, thus taking up 1 of the 2 spots, and I reckon he'd be placed 5th at the moment, might be higher after the season
And just for the record, the only one of theirs I'd want is Aguero, just seems like such a gem of a player really, Tevez is a cnut, Balotelli's kind of like a lovable retard, but would cause too much unnecessary drama, and Džeko doesn't "do it" for me. I much prefer Hernandez over Džeko for instance, even if the former is currently the better all around player
1) Rooney
2) RvP
3) Aguero
4) Tevez
5) Balotelli
6) Welbeck edges it for me, just, and I think you'll see an improved Welbeck this season.
7) Džeko just behind Welbeck, one could definetely argue for it to be the other way around
8) Hernandez
plus we've got Kagawa, even though he's not a striker his best position as of now is still the role behind the main striker, thus taking up 1 of the 2 spots, and I reckon he'd be placed 5th at the moment, might be higher after the season
And just for the record, the only one of theirs I'd want is Aguero, just seems like such a gem of a player really, Tevez is a cnut, Balotelli's kind of like a lovable retard, but would cause too much unnecessary drama, and Džeko doesn't "do it" for me. I much prefer Hernandez over Džeko for instance, even if the former is currently the better all around player
Exactly, and beyond team is the even more complex idea of squad.
Have they started complaining about how easy our draw was yet?
I've had to explain the Pot and Coeficient system for a second year in a row to a couple of my mates who follow City as they've texted again how shit their draw is compared to United who 'always get an easy draw'.
I've had to explain the Pot and Coeficient system for a second year in a row to a couple of my mates who follow City as they've texted again how shit their draw is compared to United who 'always get an easy draw'.
Erm, even leaving aside the whole "pot 1 vs pot 2" thing, they drew the German and Dutch champions while we drew the Turkish and Romanian winners. No conspiracy here, but it's an easier draw before you factor in the difference between Braga and Real Madrid.
The real moaning will start when they fail to qualify.... again.
I may get slated but Id have Aguero at the top of that list
Don't see why anyone would slate you for that. He was brilliant last year. A constant threat. I believe he played through a lot of injuries too.
All made even more impressive given it was his first season in the league.
Aguero hasn't quite put it all together yet but his technique is outrageous. Ballotelli is wasted at City, Wenger would have made him the new Henry by now.
Nah, it's rigged. We just get done favors all the time and get 'an easy draw'.
Have they started complaining about how easy our draw was yet?
I've had to explain the Pot and Coeficient system for a second year in a row to a couple of my mates who follow City as they've texted again how shit their draw is compared to United who 'always get an easy draw'.
You have to forgive them. The CL is a new experience for them.
You may need to explain the FFP soon -- just to let them know that you cant just barge into the party just because you have the richest dad around.
You think Wenger would have controlled his ego?
Wenger's not fazed by ego. He would be teaching Mario how to use the full range of his abilities.
think he lost control of his ego when he started making comments about our treble winning strikers
Have they started complaining about how easy our draw was yet?
I've had to explain the Pot and Coeficient system for a second year in a row to a couple of my mates who follow City as they've texted again how shit their draw is compared to United who 'always get an easy draw'.
You should go on there and read there CL Draw thread, some idiots in there.