Bluemoon goes into Meltdown

Fluctuation0161 said:
They are totally deluded.

I guess they have to double down or they look stupid for defending their club. But I think they genuinely believe the cartel of big clubs are targeting them.

They don't even realise that City is the real Cartel. How many football clubs do City Group own now? :lol:
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The bellends at my old place of work used to talk about ‘world domination’ in their early title days, and quadruples. That is what City fans really want after decades of being a non existent joke of a club in our shadow.

The fact they have now been pulled up over the means of their owners trying to achieve ‘world domination’ has sent them into a blind panic. Years of mediocrity and then sudden artificial success has sent them neurotic.
 
JackRowley said:
you only have to look at the average home attendance over last 70 years to see that United have had the seasons highest home average for over 60:years, and for the other 10 a close 2/3/4 th. Newcastle before keegan arrived we’re getting gates of Less than 20k, so much for their fans saying they always fill their ground.
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Are you sure about that?
 
I love all the imaginary rag mate tales. Of all the things that have never happened, those tales have never happened the most.
 
kentafuji said:
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Someone is trying to sound smarter than they are using big fancy words. Reckon they must be a bluemooner with a thesaurus
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The truth of this is that Manchester City Council sold off huge parts of the city on the cheap. The deal was criticised by Amnesty at the time and investigations since found it to have been an incredibly poor deal for the city of Manchester. So while vast areas of around Ancoats and toward the stadium have been transformed, the real beneficiary are forgein investors and not the people of Manchester.

The city has some of the highest levels of investment in Europe but they sit alongside some of the most deprived areas and a housing crisis. While the city has been strangled by cuts and the council sought external funding, this particular deal is an example of a city selling off its silverware on the cheap.

It was not a good deal for the city and the investigation should not stop with football. Why was a city so keen to celebrate its radical history jumping in bed with these investors? Why didn't they even get a good price? Why did Sir Howard Bernstein retire from the council early and take up a roll working for the City football group?
 
Herman Toothrot said:
The truth of this is that Manchester City Council sold off huge parts of the city on the cheap. The deal was criticised by Amnesty at the time and investigations since found it to have been an incredibly poor deal for the city of Manchester. So while vast areas of around Ancoats and toward the stadium have been transformed, the real beneficiary are forgein investors and not the people of Manchester.

The city has some of the highest levels of investment in Europe but they sit alongside some of the most deprived areas and a housing crisis. While the city has been strangled by cuts and the council sought external funding, this particular deal is an example of a city selling off its silverware on the cheap.

It was not a good deal for the city and the investigation should not stop with football. Why was a city so keen to celebrate its radical history jumping in bed with these investors? Why didn't they even get a good price? Why did Sir Howard Bernstein retire from the council early and take up a roll working for the City football group?
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Absolutely.
 
Herman Toothrot said:
The truth of this is that Manchester City Council sold off huge parts of the city on the cheap. The deal was criticised by Amnesty at the time and investigations since found it to have been an incredibly poor deal for the city of Manchester. So while vast areas of around Ancoats and toward the stadium have been transformed, the real beneficiary are forgein investors and not the people of Manchester.

The city has some of the highest levels of investment in Europe but they sit alongside some of the most deprived areas and a housing crisis. While the city has been strangled by cuts and the council sought external funding, this particular deal is an example of a city selling off its silverware on the cheap.

It was not a good deal for the city and the investigation should not stop with football. Why was a city so keen to celebrate its radical history jumping in bed with these investors? Why didn't they even get a good price? Why did Sir Howard Bernstein retire from the council early and take up a roll working for the City football group?
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Yep. F**ks me off when they bang on about the area investment as if it's an altruistic crusade. City were a vessel for them to exploit the local property market and, while it may look a bit prettier now, there aren't many in the city who benefit from it in the long term.
 
Red in STL said:
Gloryhunter fans are those who support a team because they became successful, United had millions of fans worldwide long before the PL era and let's face it ,we were pretty shit in a lot of the time.

City had a lot of local support and they weren't shy about it either, older members of this forum will remember the days of Peter Swales and what the City fans got up to

There were plenty of gloryhunters at OT during the SAF years and a lot of us despised them then
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Indeed.

City have always been a big club, probably the 9th or 10th biggest in the country in terms of fanbase, with a decent ground. Some of United's best nights have come from winning semi-finals at Maine Road.

Their success is still massively artificial, though. If all football clubs performed to their natural level then they'd probably be a mid-table PL team with the odd good cup run.
 
Herman Toothrot said:
The truth of this is that Manchester City Council sold off huge parts of the city on the cheap. The deal was criticised by Amnesty at the time and investigations since found it to have been an incredibly poor deal for the city of Manchester. So while vast areas of around Ancoats and toward the stadium have been transformed, the real beneficiary are forgein investors and not the people of Manchester.

The city has some of the highest levels of investment in Europe but they sit alongside some of the most deprived areas and a housing crisis. While the city has been strangled by cuts and the council sought external funding, this particular deal is an example of a city selling off its silverware on the cheap.

It was not a good deal for the city and the investigation should not stop with football. Why was a city so keen to celebrate its radical history jumping in bed with these investors? Why didn't they even get a good price? Why did Sir Howard Bernstein retire from the council early and take up a roll working for the City football group?
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Excellent post.

The purchase of City is icing on a very murky cake for them. Nothing in this saga can be seen as positive for the club, city and the people.
 
I’m loving my life said:
Excellent post.

The purchase of City is icing on a very murky cake for them. Nothing in this saga can be seen as positive for the club, city and the people.
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Especially as they sold a stadium built with public money to a privately-run football club, without consulting anyone who didn't support said club, for next to nothing.
 
Zen86 said:
Yep. F**ks me off when they bang on about the area investment as if it's an altruistic crusade. City were a vessel for them to exploit the local property market and, while it may look a bit prettier now, there aren't many in the city who benefit from it in the long term.
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Did you ever see what the area looked like before? It was a derelict wasteland of a long gone industrial past, the whole area looked like a huge bombsite and probably still would be if the council hadn't sold it off cheap
 
JohnnyKills said:
Especially as they sold a stadium built with public money to a privately-run football club, without consulting anyone who didn't support said club, for next to nothing.
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Especially as they didn't, City do not own their stadium, they rent it from the council
 
JohnnyKills said:
Especially as they sold a stadium built with public money to a privately-run football club, without consulting anyone who didn't support said club, for next to nothing.
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They didn't sell the stadium to City, City pay £4m a year rent and pay for maintenance/refurbishment etc.

But the council have been falling overthemselves to give ADUG whatever they want.I was told years ago by a solicitor who is very good friends with Howard Bernstein and Richard Leese and Graham Stringer MP their policy was/is whatever they want they get.
 
Herman Toothrot said:
The truth of this is that Manchester City Council sold off huge parts of the city on the cheap. The deal was criticised by Amnesty at the time and investigations since found it to have been an incredibly poor deal for the city of Manchester. So while vast areas of around Ancoats and toward the stadium have been transformed, the real beneficiary are forgein investors and not the people of Manchester.

The city has some of the highest levels of investment in Europe but they sit alongside some of the most deprived areas and a housing crisis. While the city has been strangled by cuts and the council sought external funding, this particular deal is an example of a city selling off its silverware on the cheap.

It was not a good deal for the city and the investigation should not stop with football. Why was a city so keen to celebrate its radical history jumping in bed with these investors? Why didn't they even get a good price? Why did Sir Howard Bernstein retire from the council early and take up a roll working for the City football group?
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Well said
 
This is the problem with social media. People read it and believe it. I’ve got 4 young lads working at my place. Unfortunately they are all plastic rags but I thought I’d give them the benefit of the doubt as they are new out of university. Unfortunately as I walked in yesterday it was “city cheating” this and “FFP” that. I quickly brought them back down a peg or two and got them to pipe down but that’s the problem. They read a tweet or a FB post and believe it. This is where the damage is done. We are suffering reputation damage
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Back on topic please.
The imaginary rags are at it again...
 
@padr81
Shots fired!!!
Save this cat!!
An alleged City fan on RedCafe using the pseudonym of padr 81 is a disgrace to the club. A complete psychophant. See attached. Unbelievable.
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If he’s a city fan I’ll go to the foot of our stairs and wank the cat
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All Fergie's fault apparently...
Take it from me , and I’m just a passionate City fan , the slur started from Ferguson, he knows absolutely feck all about City , even a prick like him will have googled “Manchester City” before he brought his whiskey down to that desperate shower of shit he managed - he’s know idea who was the bigger club in the early years - and nor does he accept that our club -City , pulled that shower of shit out of the mire when OT got bombed. That absolute weapon - endorsed the “ ticking time banner” at our expense. Liverpool are as bad , and Spurs ? Who the feck do they think they are ? We have no friends- Pep , what a man. Get fecked you so called big six , we always have been a big club , go feck yourselves.
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It was the same when Swansea came up, their season ticket holders were written to asking them not to wear United shirts to games any more, they said it was fine when they were in different divisions but now they were 'rivals' it was a bit of a no-no.
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Is this claim from Blue Moon actually true? its the first ive heard of this happening
 
Blue Moon is pure gold ….

"This is the problem with social media. People read it and believe it. I’ve got 4 young lads working at my place. Unfortunately they are all plastic rags but I thought I’d give them the benefit of the doubt as they are new out of university. Unfortunately as I walked in yesterday it was “city cheating” this and “FFP” that. I quickly brought them back down a peg or two and got them to pipe down but that’s the problem. They read a tweet or a FB post and believe it. This is where the damage is done. We are suffering reputation damage."

Gotta love how in their stories they always "take the United fans down a peg or two", but they never address the allegations.
 
Red in STL said:
Did you ever see what the area looked like before? It was a derelict wasteland of a long gone industrial past, the whole area looked like a huge bombsite and probably still would be if the council hadn't sold it off cheap
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What’s your point? That this was a good deal for Manchester?
 
Take it from me , and I’m just a passionate City fan , the slur started from Ferguson, he knows absolutely feck all about City , even a prick like him will have googled “Manchester City” before he brought his whiskey down to that desperate shower of shit he managed - he’s know idea who was the bigger club in the early years - and nor does he accept that our club -City , pulled that shower of shit out of the mire when OT got bombed. That absolute weapon - endorsed the “ ticking time banner” at our expense. Liverpool are as bad , and Spurs ? Who the feck do they think they are ? We have no friends- Pep , what a man. Get fecked you so called big six , we always have been a big club , go feck yourselves
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Sorry just re-read this?!
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This has got to be an undercover "rag" on the wind up.
Google in 86?!
:lol::lol::lol:
 
Not bluemoon but I’ve just listened to the football daily podcast where Shaun Wright-Phillips reckons that even if city are found guilty, that any punishment that impacts the players (stripped of titles, relegation/expulsion, points deduction) should be off limits because “regardless of what’s gone on the in the background, the players still had to preform and pep still had to coach to win all those trophies.” :lol:


In fact the whole panel, and host seemed rather sympathetic to City’s situation. It’s bonkers. They’ve been accused of cheating but so many pundits are like “ah they’ve still been great on the field.” It’s actually infuriating listening to people excuse it.
 
Jeppers7 said:
What’s your point? That this was a good deal for Manchester?
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It probably was, it was a wasteland for years and would likely still be one if it hadn't been sold cheap, this is land that would have required a huge clean-up of the toxic crap from it's industrial past
 
Red in STL said:
It probably was, it was a wasteland for years and would likely still be one if it hadn't been sold cheap, this is land that would have required a huge clean-up of the toxic crap from it's industrial past
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There’s not many in the know that would agree with the council selling off that land at the price. It’s generally seen as the council selling its soul and then in the background the councillor who signs it off retires and joins the board of MCFC.

So yeah I’m sure they got a good price.
 
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