Bluemoon goes into Meltdown

Disagree, I mean considering how Liverpool have no good goalkeepers (1), 1 good defender (VVD who was injured for that game), few if any decent midfielders and only 3 good attackers (2) we should have beaten them one way or another. But the fact is that when I saw how City played in that game, I got the impression that they where a shadow of how they played of late and I highly suspect it is because they have either run out or are running out of steam (3) just when the season is only going to get tougher from here when one is still comeptiting in all 4 comeptitions against teams which are not exactly walkovers in any case.

So unless the First XI (4) somehow addresses this problem or City actually sign the players they need to sign (like Sanchez), the title race might end up being rather less over than many people seem to think at best and at worse, we might just actually lose it (5). Especially since United might well obtain a player who we all know can win/draw games (and even trophies) for teams almost singlehandly for the Arsenal and if he can do it for a club on the decline, imagine what he can bring to a club which for all its issues is at least in a better position than Arsenal are in.

(1) Any team that wants to do well needs to have good goalkeepers on their side, after all United under Fergie did their best when they had Schmeichel and VDS in goal while having both De Gea and Romero in goal has helped the club go though some tough times of late.

(2) While Salah, Mane and Firmino as as good as anybody in the League, they have no one in reserve who can come close to matching them. Hence why selling Coutinho might end up costing them this season.

(3) And it is not just this game either, it has increasingly been the case (by and large) for them since Late November.

(4) The Second XI is not going to able to pick up the slack, not when you look at some of the players in that team and how they performed against the likes of Wolves and Bristol City.

(5) Lets not forget the points advantage we have is similar to where it was for Newcastle in the 1996-1997 season at the point and where it was for United in the 1997-1998 season at the 31st round of games. So considering the problems we have at the moment, it is not exactly at the level which is impossible for teams like United to catch up against (although their margin of screwing up in future games this season is pretty much nothing, Sanchez or no Sanchez)

So overall while I think we are still firm favourites to win the title this season, our loss to Liverpool (more exposing the state of the team rather than just the loss of the 3 points) and the bottling over Sanchez has weaked our advantage considerably on this front.



The post I made on Bluemoon which was quoted on post #14895 on this thread.
Hey man, welcome to the site and all but this thread is for taking the piss out of bluemoon, if you want serious discussion there's a man city thread in the football forum.
 
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That was their best attack at OT at the time. Ahh harkening back to the days of the Nazi's. Their aspirations truly know no bounds.
 
Clearly what he will say is
"When the world's biggest club comes calling you don't turn them down, they are the countries most successful team and they are managed by the countries most successful manager, with the largest fan-base in the world......................none of the other clubs interested could offer that package"
 
You're 12 points clear and have dropped 7 points all season. The title is done unless you lose 4 games and draw another 3/4 and one of Us/Chelsea/Liverpool win every remaining game.


15 games left, you'd have to drop points in 7-8 of them and one chaser maintains perfect form. Or 5 defeats on the bounce to make it interesting. Not happening.
 
The way i view this is getting Sanchez at all costs was crucial to the giant ego that is that foul club. This season is really the first time we have dominated the media in such a way, its been a veritable media wan*k fest since august over our playing style, breaking records and supposed quadruple. The swamp been left in the shadows and that's unacceptable for them to the point of humiliation. What they do? Slam their giant rancid fist on the table to get attention by literally throwing money at the one player they knew we wanted. Sanchez can be an outstanding player but he's just one player. They are shelling out so much yet still not at our level. It makes their first 11 better but I believe compromises their sumner spending whilst we have what is like a new signing in Mendy returning, and undoubtably Pep will sign a stellar striker to replace Kun.(really dont think pep fancies him sacly) Add maybe 2 more on positions that need strengthening and next season I expect a successful defense of our PL trophy, CL possibly too.
Let the filth have their media gush for a few days, let us get on with winning the title. Just let the filth weep whilst cuddling their new and perversly expensive toy.
 
A simply breathtaking lack of self awareness. A f*cking Man City fan criticising another club for throwing money around. INCREDIBLE SCENES.
 
You're 12 points clear and have dropped 7 points all season. The title is done unless you lose 4 games and draw another 3/4 and one of Us/Chelsea/Liverpool win every remaining game.


15 games left, you'd have to drop points in 7-8 of them and one chaser maintains perfect form. Or 5 defeats on the bounce to make it interesting. Not happening.
I agree with this..

I cannot see how they are going to drop 13 points and we win the rest of the games.
 
That was their best attack at OT at the time. Ahh harkening back to the days of the Nazi's. Their aspirations truly know no bounds.
I can’t believe I have never seen this before. That’s unbelievable. How between rosler and the club nobody felt this was a tad distasteful is astonishing. I would like to think the vast majority of city fans would probably not agree with it either.
 
Not to sure about that. On the second page I came across this gem.

  • We ARE the best team in Premier League history and it's not even a close competition, no matter what happens in the leagues and CL. Nobody has ever played anything like what we're playing and it's showing a lot of Little Englanders that their precious Premier League is all marketing and no different from any other league in the world.
 
This is great. You just know they don't believe in what they say. They don't have a clue on how to react to this.
 
This guy from Toronto has his say on the numerous United fans he meets back home

  • I have never met a reasonable United fan capable of viewing anything in an unbiased, non-delusional manner. Not one.
 
@1Manchester welcome to the caf. You raise some good points but I do think overall it sounds like you expect City to be a perfect team and that's never been how football has worked, specially not how City approach it.
Imo, Sanchez would've been a good addition for you, but not something you need. You don't need to go looking for all the answers because you lost a game or even if you go on a little run of off form.
 
A simply breathtaking lack of self awareness. A f*cking Man City fan criticising another club for throwing money around. INCREDIBLE SCENES.

In Rics defence on bluemoon he's made a few post calling blues Disingenuous and ridiculous to call utd over the Sanchez signing. He's well aware he has a paranoid bunch that frequent bluemoon and takes them down a peg or two when he can.

As i said earlier its just got out of hand over there and he no longer has full control, Its just toxic. Its not just yourselves who take the piss out of it, Rawk, Arsenal Mania, Grand old team, Fighting cock, Shed end, its barmy.
 
I'm a big fan of our unpopular opinion thread, and now theirs too. Interesting to see what people actually think when they take the blinkers off.

It is a good read. If this was posted in the mains, that guy would have been slaughtered...and swiftly banned!

- A lot of our support are sleepwalking into being arrogant entitled gobs, a la United fans 10 yrs ago
- I find a lot of Utd fans have more perspective nowadays, after a few years of being pretty average
- The atmosphere at the Etihad is predominantly garbage.
- We're really not as well supported as many think.
- Martial is a great footballer
- City have contributed, in one way or another, to wage and transfer fee hyperinflation

A lot of the posturing on there is really just a front I reckon. The lack of objectivity and perspective from oppo fans have warped their sense of reality.
 
Disagree, I mean considering how Liverpool have no good goalkeepers (1), 1 good defender (VVD who was injured for that game), few if any decent midfielders and only 3 good attackers (2) we should have beaten them one way or another. But the fact is that when I saw how City played in that game, I got the impression that they where a shadow of how they played of late and I highly suspect it is because they have either run out or are running out of steam (3) just when the season is only going to get tougher from here when one is still comeptiting in all 4 comeptitions against teams which are not exactly walkovers in any case.

So unless the First XI (4) somehow addresses this problem or City actually sign the players they need to sign (like Sanchez), the title race might end up being rather less over than many people seem to think at best and at worse, we might just actually lose it (5). Especially since United might well obtain a player who we all know can win/draw games (and even trophies) for teams almost singlehandly for the Arsenal and if he can do it for a club on the decline, imagine what he can bring to a club which for all its issues is at least in a better position than Arsenal are in.

(1) Any team that wants to do well needs to have good goalkeepers on their side, after all United under Fergie did their best when they had Schmeichel and VDS in goal while having both De Gea and Romero in goal has helped the club go though some tough times of late.

(2) While Salah, Mane and Firmino as as good as anybody in the League, they have no one in reserve who can come close to matching them. Hence why selling Coutinho might end up costing them this season.

(3) And it is not just this game either, it has increasingly been the case (by and large) for them since Late November.

(4) The Second XI is not going to able to pick up the slack, not when you look at some of the players in that team and how they performed against the likes of Wolves and Bristol City.

(5) Lets not forget the points advantage we have is similar to where it was for Newcastle in the 1996-1997 season at the point and where it was for United in the 1997-1998 season at the 31st round of games. So considering the problems we have at the moment, it is not exactly at the level which is impossible for teams like United to catch up against (although their margin of screwing up in future games this season is pretty much nothing, Sanchez or no Sanchez)

So overall while I think we are still firm favourites to win the title this season, our loss to Liverpool (more exposing the state of the team rather than just the loss of the 3 points) and the bottling over Sanchez has weaked our advantage considerably on this front.



The post I made on Bluemoon which was quoted on post #14895 on this thread.
Na the league is yours this year chap. Just a shame we dropped 3 stupid points in the derby as well as those 3 draws over Christmas or the race would really be on now. Anyway, enjoy your title and make the most of it because shes coming home next season.
 
You're 12 points clear and have dropped 7 points all season. The title is done unless you lose 4 games and draw another 3/4 and one of Us/Chelsea/Liverpool win every remaining game.

15 games left, you'd have to drop points in 7-8 of them and one chaser maintains perfect form. Or 5 defeats on the bounce to make it interesting. Not happening.

I agree with this..

I cannot see how they are going to drop 13 points and we win the rest of the games.

If we continue to struggle to maintain the level of consistency that we been reaching in the first part of the season (1) and play more like we played against Liverpool on a reuglar basis (2), then it might just be possible. Remember all we need to do is lose against United, City, Tottenham and Arsenal (or 1 other team who capitalises on our weakenesses) and that points lead goes up in smoke. Now of course we might end up going back up in terms of peformance as we have done at times since late November, however as long as the strength in depth issue remains in place, I struggle to see how it can be done.

Likewise as we are going into this part of the season as we are now, United in contrast are likely to have serious boost to their ability to win games with Sanchez and in turn their ability to win games on a consistant basis (essential if you are going to catch us up) (3). Hence why I felt City should have been more willing to prevent United hijacking the deal in the first place, simply because the combination of our declining performance and United's extra boost might just be the pefect storm that turns the title race around.

Anyway all we can do is see how both teams far in the next few rounds of games, what I can say though is that with all that is happened, I feel the title race is certainly not as "over" as it seems even a few weeks ago and likewise if City do win the title at the end of all this, the points victory it certainly not going to be as big as has been at times.

(1) Especially the likes against Manchester United, Chelsea and Tottenham

(2) Remember that the Season for us is only going to get tougher from here with a League Cup Final (assuming of course we don't f**k it up against Bristol City, which I now see as a real possiblity considering their recent record), the FA Cup run and the Knockout Rounds of the CL alongside the remaining half of the Premier League Season.

(3) Look I absolutely agree that Manchester United face a huge task in the second half of the season with having to catch up with City while still competing in the FA Cup and (especially) the Champions League as well. In other words you cannot really afford to lose/draw in any more games then you already are (In some respects this seasons Premier League Title race is a lot like a La Liga's title race, in the sense that for the 2-3 teams that are realisically able to win it, it is really comes down to which team screws up the least above all else). My point however is that having Sanchez will make it eaiser for United to screw up less than you have done in the first half of the season.

@1Manchester welcome to the caf. You raise some good points but I do think overall it sounds like you expect City to be a perfect team and that's never been how football has worked, specially not how City approach it.

To be fair, I expected us to draw and even lose games this season across all 4 of the comeptitions City are in. However I felt it was more likely we would lose to a team such as United, Chelsea and Spurs Domestically and teams such as Barcelona, Real, Bayern and Jueventus in Europe (simply because they are all either on our current level or better squad wise). What I did not expect was that Liverpool of all teams (which as I have said before have a lot of issues with their squad) to be the first to beat us (2) and to do with the help of our fatigue issues as well.

That was why I was so disappointed about the loss to Liverpool, not just the fact that we failed to do what the Invincbles managed in the League (if not in the FA Cup, League Cup and Champions League) though this defeat, but in the way we lost (in terms of City's performance) and to which team we lost to. Reguardless though the best thing City need to be doing is learning lessons from this game, in particular the lessons our transfer department need to be learning.

(1) Lets not forget both the 2003-2004 Arsenal team and the 2004-2005 Chelsea team both lost 6 games in all competitions, this is despite the fact they have been among the least defeated Premier League teams of all time.

(2) Although at least they did so by outscoring us, which is kind of the only way to beat a team with the attacking potential of City. So fair play to them for adopting that stratagy against us, it is however such a shame they have no counterparts to their "Fab 3/4" when it comes to their goalkeeping/defence and midfield areas as well. Otherwise it might have actually have been their year instead...

Na the league is yours this year chap. Just a shame we dropped 3 stupid points in the derby as well as those 3 draws over Christmas or the race would really be on now.

Let's not forget the loss against Huddersfield and the draws against Liverpool and Stoke (games you should have all really have won) alongside them as well.

Anyway, enjoy your title and make the most of it because shes coming home next season.

Well from my personal opinion it all depends on which of us and Chelsea has the best transfer window above all else. Although if Chelsea continue to go downhill in terms of trasnfer policy (1). I can say with some confidence that the title will remain in Manchester next season, which club though is another matter...

(1) The problem for Chelsea is less who they bought (Caballero, Rüdiger, Zappacosta and Drinkwater were all reasonably good transfers, Bakayoko on the other hand was a dud purchase and in turn the jury is still both out for both Morata and Barkley), it is more who they didn't get and who they are now aiming to get.
 
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@1Manchester there's really no shame losing to Liverpool at Anfield, they're crazy strong at home. Shit happens.
 
Well if the toxic bullshit at blue moon means we get the decent posters from there coming here then long may it continue.
 
This ain't a City discussion thread guys...there's a City thread for that. :wenger:
 
What's with all the (1) odd numbering (2)?

It (1) doesn't follow as (3) coherent and (2) consecutive points (347)?

The numbering in this case only applies to that section of the post, not the post as a whole.

@1Manchester there's really no shame losing to Liverpool at Anfield, they're crazy strong at home. Shit happens.

I am not questioning their home record (1), nor the fact their attack is impressive in its own right (if rather lacking in backups) (2). I just thought that we would be able to overcome their defensive/midfield weaknesses to counter their strong attack, that is all. Reguardless in hindsight it is not to hard to see how they defeated us.

(1) Lets not forget they remain unbeaten at home this season.

(2) Both of which made me feel that we had to be at our best to defeat them at Anfield, which we had not done for a very long time.

This ain't a City discussion thread guys...there's a City thread for that. :wenger:

I was only continuing the discussion about the Sanchez Saga/Liverpool defeat which orginiated from that forum in question, that is all.
 
Was in the pub after yesterday's game, a guy at the bar asked me what the game was like, I said we were average with terrible decision making in front of goal. He then told me he was a city fan rather sheepishly ( it's a United supporters pub) I Said "I hope your not too butt hurt over us taking Sanchez of you".
His reply...." Sanchez is good, but he's a mercenary!"
How fecking deluded are these guys! I said "just in case your not aware mate, you support a team of fecking mercenaries, the same with all the top teams in the league, your rich Arab playboy has turned the premier league into a massive ATM for the top players in the world, we just pay for them differently".
They've definitely got selective righteousness syndrome.
 
Time to enjoy a bit of Bertie wisdom from the past few weeks...

Thankful Bertie said:
Not only can we annoy Arsenal fans with this transfer, but the clueless media have now piped up about Utd and Liverpools interest.

So when we do sign him, which we definatly will, we will have pissed off 3 of the biggest, nob head, fanbases around - all in one deal.

Thank you Alexis!

Gullible Bertie said:
These gullible rags lumping on this afternoon are going to earn me some money on skybet as the odds are now backable to come to us.
Thanks

Optimistic Bertie said:
Once rags are linked you know he’s very close to joining us.

Looks like he won’t get registered in time for Liverpool unless he signs today. As long as we have him before the Newcastle game it’s fine.

Amused Bertie said:
It's actually borderline hilarious that people think a player like Alexis will choose United over us.

Own Goal Bertie said:
Can't wait to see him bang in a couple against Utd.