I wonder if they still think Tolmie_hairdoo is ITK rofl
He knows about as much as my dead aunt about their ongoings transfer wise, believe me
He knows about as much as my dead aunt about their ongoings transfer wise, believe me
Bluemoon goes into Meltdown
- Thread starter Logan!
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Look it's very simple just concentrate on City, the pattern is 1 win and 1 loss/draw, they have respected that pattern since October, that pattern has not been disturbed by the Guardiola announcement. You are trying to correlate two things that aren't linked, City are where they are because they steadily lost points every two weeks since october.
Also they have not beaten a single top 6 team this season, it was true before the Guardiola announcement and still true after.
How is 13 wins, 5 draws and 5 defeats in the league before Pep the same as 3 wins, 1 draw and 4 defeats since Pep? That's 44 points from 23 games (1,91 points per game) compared to 10 points from 8 games (1,25 points per game).
October and they played the top 6 during that period.
They got a draw at Old Trafford and in Leicester before Pep, but lost against both at home since Pep.
So they won the day after the announcement then lost against the first and second and that's because of Guardiola's announcement? You don't think that it's because they have been wank since October and logically lost against in form teams?
Maybe, but their season didn't get better by announcing Pep so early, it went from them being only 3 points behind Leicester in 2nd to now being 15 points behind (with a game in hand) in 4th and only 1 point ahead of us.
They call Sir Bobby, Sir Ticket Tout.
Never have I ever seen so much hatred in a thread as their last couple pages on the United thread. These are grown men acting like this.
Never have I ever seen so much hatred in a thread as their last couple pages on the United thread. These are grown men acting like this.
Their forum is vile. It's like a competition about who hates United more.
Nice to see them out in force to support their club today....
Yep and they are expanding the Emptyhad. WHY???
Probably so the Sheik can buy up season tickets which then counts as revenue towards helping with FFP. Another way of artificially propping the club up and generating income.
Theres only so many fake sponsorships you can create before you are taking the absolute piss (though they are already imo).
FFP is pretty much gone anyway (if it was ever truly 'here').
Never thought of that, but after the release of the Panama Papers this week, we should realise that anything's possible.
I thought David Gill was meant to be involved in policing it.
I don't think it is, it sort of still keeps the sugar daddies in check. Otherwise PSG would just spend £300-400m every summer.
They are for the time being anyway appearing to comply with it. The fake sponsorships are their way around it sort of but it still keeps them honest to an extent.
You don't really believe this do you? Come on. If it's true why are the season tickets the cheapest in the league for the expanded South Stand, if it was done to boost revenue then they would be set at a much higher price. Also how could the stadium ever be full if thousands of tickets are bought by the owner, does he then pay people to attend but only for certain games? It's such a ludicrous suggestion once you apply even a tiny bit of common sense.
Brave statement
Calm down mate i wasn't being entirely serious. I have no idea of the real reason why you are extending a stadium you can't fill as it is.
I would imagine they are the cheapest in the league as tickets for City matches aren't exactly in high demand.
Why do you think they are ploughing money into extending a stadium that they don't even own that they could never hope to fill on a regular basis?
Sadly I know a few people who've genuinely argued it before so I don't always instantly interpret it as a joke.
As for the extension, it's pretty obvious. Every game might not be a sell-out right now but the vast majority are and even then capacity is higher than before the expansion. It was full for the games at home to Watford and Bournemouth for example, so it is not just the big games that sell-out. As the club continues to establish itself interest in the games will only increase, especially with the excitement generated by Guardiola's arrival. More revenue and more prestige.
Fair enough mate, seems a bit optimistic to me though. I personally have my doubts you will ever get to the point where you are selling out a 60,000 stadium every game or even regularly. Especially if the teams fortunes take a dive on the pitch which could well happen at some point.
To be fair, 10 years ago you could have handily said that about Spurs, Chelsea, West Ham, etc... Yet they're all expanding. Of course they've waited until they have the demand before upgrading.
I suppose, i haven't been following events at West Ham but do they really have the following to fill a 60,000 stadium every week?
Spurs always had a pretty good following and Chelsea i think got in at the right time to grow their fan base, though to be fair they were pretty well followed before Roman came.
Apparently they have a stronger fanbase than you'd expect, they seem optimistic that they'll get big numbers and have a growing youth group.
Do Real Madrid and Barcelona sell out their stadium every match? Juventus do not either and their capacity is only about 40,000. The fact is City will typically sell-out the stadium as it is now and for any big games it's always going to be full. City's average attendance in the 2004-05 season under Stuart Pearce was over 45,000 so I think our attendance can survive a few 'poor' seasons by our new standards.
Juventus may not be the best example there, they moved out of a big, half empty stadium for a better atmosphere.
Yeah but they still do not sell out their stadium. My point is these are huge teams, bigger than City by some distance, who do not sell out their stadium yet it's hardly a problem for them.
True indeed, I don't think it'll be a big hassle for you, but I don't think it makes much sense either.
Quite a few of those supposedly sold out games clearly weren't. I expect United manipulate figures too
Do you not regard City as established then? 8 years on from being bankrolled? At what point are they if not now? And it seems to anyone who is not a City fan that "interest in the games" is rapidly waning and there is no grounds for this idea that it is guaranteed to increase. Guardiola's arrival is one thing but the novelty factor of that will be short lived if the team doesn't deliver.
It looks to all intent and purpose that interest, locally at least, has peaked and that a lot of those newly attracted fans have very quickly turned their backs once trophies aren't being won. I think you've haemorrhaged hardcore support these past few years, the kind who turn up through thick and thin, and hence seats all over the shop and boy is the atmosphere poor. I've been twice this season and it was a morgue and made OT sound cacophonous and that's some feat.
But at least you've stopped using clearly bs excuses for all the empty seats eg traffic problems, ECL corruption protests and are now taking the stance that this happens elsewhere and is not a problem.
Even Barca fans are slating City
Nothing new there.
Blue seat turns up at game dressed as human being
I do regard City as established but there is obviously plenty of room for development. We still lack global appeal on the scale of teams like United and Madrid and it will take decades to achieve that. There are signs it is changing though, for instance Dybala said before he signed for Juventus that City were on of his dream teams. A Belgian youth player said something similar a few months ago. Ok, there is clearly a link in that we have Argentinian and Belgian players, but it's a sign that the younger generation are growing up with City as a top side who they want to play for alongside the other top teams.
As for your claim about the attendance it has no grounding in reality. Our attendance is higher than last season, that's indisputable, so how have fans turned their back on the club? And I was at the Watford game which was a sell-out and there were very few empty seats, only a few hundred which you will always get. Bournemouth as well was the record attendance until the Leicester game and was definitely packed, so those are two games at home to lesser sides which have seen a full Etihad this season.
Yep.
Also the excellent Brahim Diaz wanted no other team. Barcelona tried and failed to hijack the signing.
The vast majority of games are not sell-outs at all. Don't listen to the figures spouted by the announcer, look at the empty seats with your eyes! I've probably watched 10-15 City games this season vs all sorts of opposition and I don't think I've ever seen it full.
Your glory supporting fans wanted to see the champions was all (All said in jest btw
)Re "official" attendance figures and what the world and his dog can see with their own eyes.
Attendance v Watford = 53,218
Attendance v WBA = 53,920
You say Watford was packed? Less than attending yesterday apparently. What's the capacity 55k? No way was that ground 98% full.
City are clearly struggling to get a full house on a regular basis and for a team with designs of global domination many would say that, 8 years in, that doesn't bode well. What chance has a team of global appeal if even the man down the road isn't arsed? The Guardiola project will be interesting. Right now City have stalled and he's got a job on to take them up a level ang get a decent crowd in .
As with United large chunks of hard core support have jacked it in - cue empty seats and no atmosphere at the Etihad whilst United still have enough day trippers. That will change too if we don't get playing decent football pretty smartly.
Why do you seem so defensive?
It's not like i was having a go at City simply making an observation and sharing an opinion.
Using Barca and Real as examples seems a bit off, the culture over there is a bit different. Plus they both have stadiums pushing 100,000k. Other english teams are a better example. The likes of Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Newcastle etc. have a packed house almost every week.
ENOUGH WITH THE GOD DAMNED SERIOUS CONVERSATIONS. YOU'RE RUINING THE THREAD.