Television Black Mirror | Season 6 out June 15th

Cheesy said:
I felt like the killer just didn't really work as a character.

Her motivations to kill the interviewer and interviewer's family was...flawed at best. Did she think the family just existed in a vacuum, and that their mysterious disappearances/deaths wouldn't attract attention at all? As soon as it was discovered they were missing and that the interviewer had visited the killer, piecing everything together would've been simple for the police. Although I suppose she was maybe meant to be flawed.

Although...right enough, the guinea pig twist didn't really annoy me at all. Was setup fine beforehand.
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Yeah that too. As I said it was the silliest episode of the lot imo.

It was setup for sure but in a really hammy way.
Oh look, turns out the baby was blind anyway....:rolleyes: And like I said it doesn't fit with how the memory recall thing is supposed to work (not to mention what a guinea pigs memory would actually look like).

I just didn't buy that the character would even go down that route in the first instance and like you said where was it all going to end? I mean the guy wasn't even going to mention her name when he came to her with his plan to write an (anonymous) letter to the grieving widow at the start of the episode.

Less than 24 hours later she's clubbing people to death and smothering babies in front of horrified Guinea pigs..
 
CassiusClaymore said:
Yeah that too. As I said it was the silliest episode of the lot imo.

It was setup for sure but in a really hammy way.
Oh look, turns out the baby was blind anyway....:rolleyes: And like I said it doesn't fit with how the memory recall thing is supposed to work (not to mention what a guinea pigs memory would actually look like).

I just didn't buy that the character would even go down that route in the first instance and like you said where was it all going to end? I mean the guy wasn't even going to mention her name when he came to her with his plan to write an (anonymous) letter to the grieving widow at the start of the episode.

Less than 24 hours later she's clubbing people to death and smothering babies in front of horrified Guinea pigs..
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Yeah she was a terrible character.

The whole time I could just never get my head around her doing any of it. It made no sense at all.

Plus as you said, she never really covered her tracks or cleaned up or anything, which made the gerbil thing even more stupid because the police could've just as easily found her prints anywhere in the house anyway!
 
Pogue Mahone said:
They were my top two as well.

Have you got stuck into this new season yet? I think I might have enjoyed USS Callister slightly more than both of them.
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Yeah I binged it all on NYD in the throes of a mighty hangover. The only one I didn't like at all was Metalhead, the others did vary in quality but all were watchable/enjoyable for me.

I really liked USS Callister but I think I'd need a rewatch to objectively rank it - my nostalgic inner nerd probably clouded my judgement first time out. Definitely had it close to or on par with my top two after first watch.
 
Welsh Wonder said:
Yeah I binged it all on NYD in the throes of a mighty hangover. The only one I didn't like at all was Metalhead, the others did vary in quality but all were watchable/enjoyable for me.

I really liked USS Callister but I think I'd need a rewatch to objectively rank it - my nostalgic inner nerd probably clouded my judgement first time out. Definitely had it close to or on par with my top two after first watch.
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Same! I just loved the way they took the piss out of hammy Star Trek acting. It was so well done. Might not be as good on second viewing, I'll give you that. Although I though the casting was really good, which should make repeat viewing stand up fairly well. Yer man from West World was quality. Full disclosure, though, I was ripped on THC infused chocolate at the time (the same stuff I nearly killed my dog with) So that helped too.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Same! I just loved the way they took the piss out of hammy Star Trek acting. It was so well done. Might not be as good on second viewing, I'll give you that. Although I though the casting was really good, which should make repeat viewing stand up fairly well. Yer man from West World was quality. Full disclosure, though, I was ripped on THC infused chocolate at the time (the same stuff I nearly killed my dog with) So that helped too.
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No doubt :lol:

Yeah, the main positives I would have picked out are the same as those you've mentioned there. Jimmi Simpson (West World guy) is pretty great in everything I've seen him in. I'm getting the urge to rewatch it tonight but I don't want to ruin it by watching so soon after the first time.
 
Silva said:
I think you guys mean Liam McPoyle.
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CassiusClaymore said:
Not sure how 'Crocodile' qualifies as light hearted. Surely that's about as grim as it gets (until the silly end). Metalhead and Arkangel were pretty bleak too.
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I haven’t watched Crocodile yet - agree that Arkangel was the bleakest from the episodes I’ve watched so far but it didn’t reach the heights of previous seasons.
 
Watched Arkangel and Crocodile last night with the gf.

Arkangel was good I thought. You could see how 'filtering' how nasty stuff while a kid grows up could feck them up in the long term, and I just knew her mum would end up seeing her having sex. Good premise, and eventually her over protective mum's actions caused the daughter to do something really dangerous - like hitchhiking with strangers.

Crocodile was darker than the previous two, but pretty meh overall. I actually liked the insurance woman and her memory machine, a tad unrealistic but I liked the pieces slowly falling into place and it felt pretty tense as she was getting closer and closer to the murdering architect. But when she took out her whole family - that just seemed like several steps too far. And the guinea pig at the end :lol: got a laugh out of us along with some eye-rolling.
 
So this season, USS Callister, Hang the DJ and Black Museum were good, the others, meh.
 
Gambit said:
So this season, USS Callister, Hang the DJ and Black Museum were good, the others, meh.
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I've watched the first 3 and Crocodile is my favourite so far... I do prefer the more bleak vision of the future
 
buckooo1978 said:
I've watched the first 3 and Crocodile is my favourite so far... I do prefer the more bleak vision of the future
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The problem with Crocodile is that it's not really a bleak vision of the future. It's just some horrible person willing to murder anyone in her path to solve her problems. It could've been applied to any sort of evidence against her, not just that. That technology would quite clearly be very beneficial if it ever existed (unlikely).
 
Massive Spanner said:
The problem with Crocodile is that it's not really a bleak vision of the future. It's just some horrible person willing to murder anyone in her path to solve her problems. It could've been applied to any sort of evidence against her, not just that. That technology would quite clearly be very beneficial if it ever existed (unlikely).
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Agreed, though its main point is still fairly good in my eyes (tech to make us safer could in fact lead to greater danger). The same could be said about Arkangel to an extent. At least the 2nd half of it.
 
Massive Spanner said:
The problem with Crocodile is that it's not really a bleak vision of the future. It's just some horrible person willing to murder anyone in her path to solve her problems. It could've been applied to any sort of evidence against her, not just that. That technology would quite clearly be very beneficial if it ever existed (unlikely).
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I think I'm looking at it from a privacy point of view - not that I'm partial to do too much wrong :nervous:
 
Hang The DJ, Callister, Black Museum and Arkangel were all very good, although Black Museum went from being great to being completely thick and then back to good again.

Crocodile was my least favourite of the new season, only the setting and scenery saved it from being a complete dud.

I liked the killer dog one, but it didn't feel very 'Black Mirror' to me. It was a perfectly fine hour of entertainment, but compared to some of the other BM episodes that really make an impact, it didn't have that.
 
Crocodile just started getting farcical, I was expecting her to turn the next corner and oh no the post man, so she does him in as well, oh no the milk man... Metal Head was interesting in the idea of the little robots being lethal but it just ended up being basic hunted trope stuff.
 
Just watched Black Museum which was on a par with Callister for me. Monkey loves you :lol:

Definitely overdid it with the head tech in this season though.
 
Monkey loves you was breaking my heart at the end.
 
Black Museum was good but it was essentially the same concept as USS Callister - the idea that a digital copy of yourself can be held hostage. I enjoyed this season but it did feel like he had run out of really original ideas.
 
Watched the first 3 of the new season, USS being the pick of the bunch. The other two were good, without being great imo.

I’ve never understood why 15 million merits is highly rated? I certainly don’t think it’s bad, I just found it rather boring. Entire history of you and shut up and dance were, for me, exceptional. Men against fire doesn’t get much love either - enjoyed that.
 
jungledrums said:
Watched the first 3 of the new season, USS being the pick of the bunch. The other two were good, without being great imo.

I’ve never understood why 15 million merits is highly rated? I certainly don’t think it’s bad, I just found it rather boring. Entire history of you and shut up and dance were, for me, exceptional. Men against fire doesn’t get much love either - enjoyed that.
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Feel the same about Be Right Back. Even San Juanpino.
 
Black Museum - a meta-commentary into the Black Mirror obsessed?
 
Sorry if already asked, but never seen a single episode, which ones shall I start with (incl order)?

Have been told I’d love the show.
 
I smashed these in one go a couple of nights ago. I'm backing the consensus that, though still enjoyable, it's the weakest series so far. The same kinds of ideas and themes are being explored over and over with a natural diminishing return. I'm also not keen on the increased use of yanks, though perhaps they needed something to balance out the ridiculous northernness of Maxine Peake :drool:.
 
Member 5225 said:
Sorry if already asked, but never seen a single episode, which ones shall I start with (incl order)?

Have been told I’d love the show.
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The episodes aren't related at all, so the order doesn't matter. I watched them in a pretty random order.
 
I meant in terms of quality. Heard S1 might not be the best one to start with (i.e. it's not the best season)?
 
Member 5225 said:
I meant in terms of quality. Heard S1 might not be the best one to start with (i.e. it's not the best season)?
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It doesn't really matter where you start. The best EPs are scattered throughout the seasons, but you may as well start on S1 and continue from there. It gets progressively... "Bigger budget" as it goes along, I guess.
 
I've watched a few more episodes of this now. Very late to the party, but i've finished season 1 while also watching Be Right Back, White Bear, San Junipero and USS Callister.

Be Right Back is probably still my favourite. I enjoyed White Bear but actually seen the twist coming. Not every aspect of it, of course, but just the reality show type twist that they pulled.
I enjoyed San Junipero fine. Not sure i would have it as the best episode of the series. Probably the best looking episode though. Got that 80s/techo/neon vibe going on which i loved. A good palate cleanser episode for sure.

As for USS Callister, i loved the first half of that episode but felt let down a little by the last half and the climax. I'm not totally sure why, but i just felt it didn't live up to what came before it. The episode was both funny and disturbing throughout until that point and i can't quit articulate why i felt let down, but i did.

Also hated how this omnipotent god who created this universe where these people resided, suddenly lost his omnipotence when it suited the plot.

Anyway, overall i thought it was a good episode. Looking forward to watching White Christmas and Nosedive now.
 
What i find really cool about the show is there isnt like a "this is the best episode" "this one is rubbish"

Its different for everyone and different episodes will identify with different folks.
 
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