Bethesda - 'Game of Thrones'.

[Hullyback]

Telltale's GoT was absolutely fecking terrible.

Plus it's a totally different type of game to the one Bethesda would do.

I'm aware of that, but they don't need to be the same genre of game to tell a story. Bethesdas games are primarily story driven anyway with awful combat tacked on. Telltales games are story driven with awful point and click tacked on.

I enjoyed the Telltale game so it's personal opinion about it being terrible I guess. Maybe I wouldn't have enjoyed it had I known the show better, but as a game it was pretty decent compared to some other TT games I thought were naff.

 

[Massive Spanner]

I'd make it an RPG and be able to make characters that are a member of smaller houses or average joe citizens. I'd stay well clear of the large houses and have those as NPCs that control the main story / quest lines.

That's what Telltale did and it was a shite.

And what's the point of that anyway? There are so many other stories in the GoT universe to explore, why do they need to make a crappy side-story for the TV one?

 

[Massive Spanner]

I'm aware of that, but they don't need to be the same genre of game to tell a story. Bethesdas games are primarily story driven anyway with awful combat tacked on. Telltales games are story driven with awful point and click tacked on.

I enjoyed the Telltale game so it's personal opinion about it being terrible I guess. Maybe I wouldn't have enjoyed it had I known the show better, but as a game it was pretty decent compared to some other TT games I thought were naff.

I wouldn't say that at all. The story was far less important in Skyrim and Fallout IV than in their previous games, and a bit naff.

 

[Hullyback]

I wouldn't say that at all. The story was far less important in Skyrim and Fallout IV than in their previous games, and a bit naff.

Mate, you can spend dozens of hours in dialogue and reading lore in Bethesda games, someone takes time to write that and some people even read it - so the story is important to them when making the games.

Admittedly I pay no attention to any of it, skip conversations and only read the books by skimming for the xp cos it's all codswallop but some people do read it all and take it seriously. Just don't ask me what any of the stories are other than ones about dragons and the other is about an apocalypse and missing child I've never been one for fleshed out lore, probably why I gave up on Witcher 3 so fast.

 

[RedSky]

That's what Telltale did and it was a shite.

And what's the point of that anyway? There are so many other stories in the GoT universe to explore, why do they need to make a crappy side-story for the TV one?

That's kind of the point of RPG's though... you build a character you wish and then get released in the World to build your own story.

 

[Massive Spanner]

That's kind of the point of RPG's though... you build a character you wish and then get released in the World to build your own story.

And in most RPGs the character is absolutely pivotal to the story. If they do what you say, create a bit part character, what exactly can that character do other than listen in to conversations we've already seen before on TV? We know how the story plays out, we know all the characters that impact it, it would be a bit daft imo.

Why not just use young Ned and Robert's Rebellion? It'd be perfect for a game.

 

[RedSky]

And in most RPGs the character is absolutely pivotal to the story. If they do what you say, create a bit part character, what exactly can that character do other than listen in to conversations we've already seen before on TV? We know how the story plays out, we know all the characters that impact it, it would be a bit daft imo.

Why not just use young Ned and Robert's Rebellion? It'd be perfect for a game.

I didn't even suggest a timeline.

Also I imagine the Ned/Robert rebellion is probably going to be made into a spin off show. So we'll have the same issues.

 

[Massive Spanner]

I didn't even suggest a timeline.

Also I imagine the Ned/Robert rebellion is probably going to be made into a spin off show. So we'll have the same issues.

I can read minds.

 

[Stactix]

I'd be all for a GOT game , exploring Westeros would be amazing.
Currently playing a GOT mod for M&B Warband - A clash of kings.. It's pretty damn good, some of the castles look great considering the dated graphics.

I'd only really trust CDProjektred, with a GOT game though.. a beautiful world with great characters & story. With some side quests that put many games main quests to shame.

 

[RedSky]

I can read minds.

 

[SalfordRed18]

Could have a game where you create your own character and house, who are direct relatives of a major house who have all died. Could be starks in the north, lannisters in king landing, greyjoys in the iron islands ect. Your house has taken over as rulers, for example, id imagine karstarks would take over winterfell should something happen to every last living stark. The house you create would essentially be next in line. Then you decide whether to make peace or go to war with the south (or other way around, depends what house you choose), what houses to do business with, your personal life as heir, whilst keeping an eye on the going ons over the wall.

 

[Witchking]

Battle for Middle Earth I & II are some of the best RTS games I've ever played.

BFME 2 is still fantastic. Especially with the mods. Just started watching game of thrones season 7 and was wondering during the opening credits that someone should take a stab at making a huge RTS.

 

[Slevs]

Oii. The Two Towers and ROTK were fecking great hack and slash games. I remember me and my cousin used to stay up all night during the summer holidays with those.

The Black Gate mission where you face neverending horde of Orcs was fantastic.

Maaaaaaaaan, we used to not finish that mission on purpose to get to kill as many orcs are we liked. Every night we played that game.

 

[Macern]

Hope it isn't true. I've never watched GoT and I've been waiting for TES6 for too many years

 

[rcoobc]

Hope it isn't true. I've never watched GoT and I've been waiting for TES6 for too many years

Just buy Skyrim again but now on the Nintendo Switch!

 

[rcoobc]

Hope it isn't true. I've never watched GoT and I've been waiting for TES6 for too many years

If it helps though, from Daggerfall to Skyrim, there have been 5 or 6 year gaps between main series games. So it should be out any day now

 

[Macern]

If it helps though, from Daggerfall to Skyrim, there have been 5 or 6 year gaps between main series games. So it should be out any day now

I can guarantee you it won't come out soon . Don't think there's any chance it'll be released in 2018. I'm hoping for 2019

 

[Solius]

It could be decent if it was set in Westeros but a different era. Think it would be a bit wank if they had all the main characters from the show shoehorned in. Also if it's developed by Obsidian and not Bethesda that'd be better.

 

[DWelbz19]

It could be decent if it was set in Westeros but a different era. Think it would be a bit wank if they had all the main characters from the show shoehorned in. Also if it's developed by Obsidian and not Bethesda that'd be better.

Yeah, a studio like Obsidian or CDPR as mentioned before would really work for a game like this -- as good as Bethesda are at world-building, we all agree they haven't the writing chops to max out on the political intrigue and character development that makes ASOIAF what it is. Both studios are far too busy with their respective titles (Pillar of Eternity and Cyberpunk) at the minute though.

 

[Pexbo]

Looking back, Skyrim was an overhyped piece of shite.

It took about 20 mods to make it enjoyable.

 

[RedSky]

BFME 2 is still fantastic. Especially with the mods. Just started watching game of thrones season 7 and was wondering during the opening credits that someone should take a stab at making a huge RTS.

Must say, i've had an idea for an RTS going round my head for a few years now.

The concept would be that you would be controlling a highly regarded Family inside the World. Being able to build towns and control resources and units like any other normal RTS. However, you would also have Family members to control.

Family members are hero units essentially. They all have different physical builds, attributes and personalities that will help determine how you play the game. They can be married off, sworn to service, killed in battle, born etc. So rather than living out one generation, you are witnessing the Houses rise (and potential fall) from Grace. A few bad decisions could result in a few of your Family members dying and if your entire House is killed, your game is over.

The way the game is made more complicated is that other Houses are controlled by your friends who can be your allies, plot against you or even be at war with you. Your family members personalities will help determine what tactics you can use, some may have a high honour value which would mean they wouldn't break any allegiances. While others could be natural fighters being good leaders for your armies but might not be good fathers resulting in his children being utter shits.

It would be about managing not only your lands and armies but also deciding what happens to your Family Members. You might have a great house built and then suddenly out pops a Joffrey and he suddenly tears shit up. You as the player could try and deal with Joffrey, perhaps by trying to educate him etc. Or you could unleash him to the World as a mad tyrant!

 

[Tiber]

I would prefer an RTS

 

[Klopper76]

How about a GOT fighting game? Plenty of characters to use.

 

[NinjaZombie]

There's already the perfect Game of Thrones game, and it's a mod for the excellent Crusader Kings 2.

Spoiler

 

[rcoobc]

I would prefer an RTS

Just give me battle for middle earth 3 please

 

[buckooo1978]

the studio behind Witcher 3 would do a great job on this

 

[Witchking]

Must say, i've had an idea for an RTS going round my head for a few years now.

The concept would be that you would be controlling a highly regarded Family inside the World. Being able to build towns and control resources and units like any other normal RTS. However, you would also have Family members to control.

Family members are hero units essentially. They all have different physical builds, attributes and personalities that will help determine how you play the game. They can be married off, sworn to service, killed in battle, born etc. So rather than living out one generation, you are witnessing the Houses rise (and potential fall) from Grace. A few bad decisions could result in a few of your Family members dying and if your entire House is killed, your game is over.

The way the game is made more complicated is that other Houses are controlled by your friends who can be your allies, plot against you or even be at war with you. Your family members personalities will help determine what tactics you can use, some may have a high honour value which would mean they wouldn't break any allegiances. While others could be natural fighters being good leaders for your armies but might not be good fathers resulting in his children being utter shits.

It would be about managing not only your lands and armies but also deciding what happens to your Family Members. You might have a great house built and then suddenly out pops a Joffrey and he suddenly tears shit up. You as the player could try and deal with Joffrey, perhaps by trying to educate him etc. Or you could unleash him to the World as a mad tyrant!

You idea does sound interesting and fun. However very doubtful if we will ever get a game with so much depth in the family member / characters. You need to apply to Bethesda
It might mostly just be the characters will be in the game and will have some powers of their own. Like Jon Snow will be the Aragorn of the game.I will be happy if we ever get a game matching even BFME2 which was released almost 12 years ago. The game had good voice overs, all the army seen in the movies and the official soundtrack which is still mesmerising. With new Graphics engines of today's generation and a tailor made story along with excellent soundtrack will be absolutely fantastic with Dragons, Naval Warfare, Magic powers. This should be the minimum. Someday i hope!

 

[Giant Midget]

Maaaaaaaaan, we used to not finish that mission on purpose to get to kill as many orcs are we liked. Every night we played that game.

Ugh, if ever any game needed a remaster, those are it.

 

[Witchking]

There's already the perfect Game of Thrones game, and it's a mod for the excellent Crusader Kings 2.QUOTE]

Fan made mod? Looks interesting. How is the game compared to BFME if you have played both?

 

[Cnaiür urs Skiötha]

Skyrim was the game that brought me back to gaming after 10 years or so break.

The Witcher 3 and the Souls series are better I have to admit but a GoT game by Bethesda would be a day 1 buy.

 

[Garethw]

The biggest problem with a GoT game is.. what character could you be? Or.. characters?

Games with loads of playable characters rarely work and I can't see how this would be different.

Imo their only option would be a different story focusing on a singular character. Perhaps Ned during Robert's Rebellion. HBO have ruled out doing it as a series so it's their best option, I reckon.

A brand new story with a brand new character is the way to go.

You could bump into/complete missions for established characters and even side with warring factions fallout new vegas style.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Doesn't sound very interesting to me.

Game of Thrones is all about dialogue and story. It doesn't have the interesting creatures and 'myth' that stuff like Witcher or LOTR have which suits a game well. So if we're going down the story route then Telltale already tried it, and it was piss poor. No idea why I'd want to play a bad imitation of the show. I'm better off watching, you know, other shows. And an open world game like Bethesda would do? That doesn't suit GOT for me. There are better options out there for that to make the game on.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

the studio behind Witcher 3 would do a great job on this

Probably. But they did an unbelievable job with the fantasy genre and gave us 150 hours of gameplay (and that's just playing it once). They (and we) are better off making another game using a different world/premise/genre, as they are with Cyberpunk.

 

[Massive Spanner]

Doesn't sound very interesting to me.

Game of Thrones is all about dialogue and story. It doesn't have the interesting creatures and 'myth' that stuff like Witcher or LOTR have which suits a game well. So if we're going down the story route then Telltale already tried it, and it was piss poor. No idea why I'd want to play a bad imitation of the show. I'm better off watching, you know, other shows. And an open world game like Bethesda would do? That doesn't suit GOT for me. There are better options out there for that to make the game on.

Yeah it doesn't have Dragons or Giants or Stone-men or Sorcerer's or Wights or Mythical Forest Kids or White Walkers or Mammoths or fecking Zombie Polar Bears, what the hell are you on about?

You need to think of a GoT game as an adaptation of the book, not the show. We've only seen a fraction of the lore on the show that's in the 5,000+ page A Song of Ice and Fire series.

 

[rcoobc]

Yeah it doesn't have Dragons or Giants or Stone-men or Sorcerer's or Wights or Mythical Forest Kids or White Walkers or Mammoths or fecking Zombie Polar Bears, what the hell are you on about?

You need to think of a GoT game as an adaptation of the book, not the show. We've only seen a fraction of the lore on the show that's in the 5,000+ page A Song of Ice and Fire series.

I think it very heavily depends on the game. It could be great, but i have doubts.

If the wars are going on during the game, so winterfell starts in the hands of the starks or kings landing starts in the hands of the tygarians and by the end theyve all swithed hands three times and you see big bastard battles going on and your actions change the outcome and then some white walkers turn up to feck everything up.... Then yeah it could be great.

If the world is very static, and nothing reaply changes, then i think it would be boring as hell

The big problem is, Bethesda's game engine struggles with proper battles.

http://www.nma-fallout.com/threads/why-are-battles-so-small.204658/

http://www.gamesas.com/large-scale-battles-t19448-25.html

Battle For Middle Earth, being a RTS game, could have an incredible amount of models on screen at the same time (especially for it's age). Shadow of Mordor could have far fewer, but still you could feel the battle going on around you.

Bethesda's games aren't really like that. You certainly get battles, but not with hundreds of enemies at the same time. 10 enemies maybe.

But maybe we don't need that? Because they can make up for it with the story? Except they are all about a choose-your-own-adventure style and are often criticized for the lack of story.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Yeah it doesn't have Dragons or Giants or Stone-men or Sorcerer's or Wights or Mythical Forest Kids or White Walkers or Mammoths or fecking Zombie Polar Bears, what the hell are you on about?

You need to think of a GoT game as an adaptation of the book, not the show. We've only seen a fraction of the lore on the show that's in the 5,000+ page A Song of Ice and Fire series.

That's true. In the show we barely see any of the things you mention so they seem a very small part of the show. I mean, they're bloody beyond the wall for 90% of it, so people who watch the show would naturally find it impossible to make them a genuine part of a game. We'd have to reach level 50 before we even see those creatures. Yeah, so maybe it's different in the books (lets not get into that).

 

[padr81]

I actually think the Bethesda game will follow the main story. The show will be done, the ending complete and spoilers known. It will be easy to run a game based off the main story when all is done. It was impossible for Telltale because they couldn't have a main character die or a player be there when a main character dies because it would be inaccurate on the show.

I'd like to play as Balon Greyjoy in a Bethesda game, Spend 20 hours walking around the II doing feck all in 1st person VR, so I can get pushed off that bridge by Euron. That would be an awesome death to experience in VR.

 

[RedSky]

You idea does sound interesting and fun. However very doubtful if we will ever get a game with so much depth in the family member / characters. You need to apply to Bethesda
It might mostly just be the characters will be in the game and will have some powers of their own. Like Jon Snow will be the Aragorn of the game.I will be happy if we ever get a game matching even BFME2 which was released almost 12 years ago. The game had good voice overs, all the army seen in the movies and the official soundtrack which is still mesmerising. With new Graphics engines of today's generation and a tailor made story along with excellent soundtrack will be absolutely fantastic with Dragons, Naval Warfare, Magic powers. This should be the minimum. Someday i hope!

Oh yeah I agree, this game wont be anything like my concept which is more of a Turn Based Game Strategy anyway.

 

[Damien]

Apparently the Bethesda GOT thing was a hoax.

 

[Nickosaur]

Oh. I only heard about it yesterday and already had started to feel the hype.