Don't know how straight of an adaption the movie was, however in the book the mother appeared to be the bigger psychopath to me.
Television Best TV shows or films revolving around psychopaths?
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The book and film are pretty close. The mother definitely had mental health issues, dissociative order and was responsible for Kevin’s ‘quirks’. However, I didn’t see her as a complete psychopath. At least not in the form of what Kevin becomes.
I'm just not sure how aware the author was of that. This was the second book I read of her and the female leads in both are very similar. I'm just not sure if the reader's supposed to identify with them or if they're portrayed like that on purpose.
The Unabomber: Manhunt series will be interesting for you if you liked Mindhunter, that's also on Netflix. It's indeed filled with that kind of stuff at the moment: Inside the Criminal Mind looks like another one (haven't seen it yet but seems interesting), and I recently watched a documentation about people on death row but can't remember the name anymore, that was pretty interesting as well. They thought of it as an accomplishment to be on death row as it's a vast improvement over regular prisons, apparently.
Teletubbies. It's not for the faint hearted though, those guys are truly loco and they always give me the creeps.
Deal or no Deal
Noel's House Party
The Late Late Breakfast Show
Swap Shop
Noel's House Party
The Late Late Breakfast Show
Swap Shop
I second Zodiac.
Also might want to watch the greatly flawed but pretty shocking Casey Affleck film The Killer in Me.
Also might want to watch the greatly flawed but pretty shocking Casey Affleck film The Killer in Me.
Oh I’ll go have a look for that, The Fall. I think I might have seen it advertised somewhere. Seven is one of my favourite films and Spacey is amazing and just that bit with Brad at the end. I’m going to have to go watch it again.
Seven
Human Centipede
Human Centipede
Home Alone. That kid really is one devious feck.
Anything with Tom Cruise in it
Plein Soleil
Half of the suggestions in here are more about sadists than psychopaths in my opinion. But that's Hollywood for you I guess. A true psychopath won't torture, kill and maim people for fun. They manipulate and control people for their own gains without feeling any pleasure from the pain they inflict or the consequences for their victims. It's just irrelevant for the psychopath.
Death Note
Where have you got that from? By extension, you're saying all those serial killers and/or rapists that have given detailed accounts of the thrill, highs/rush and joy (by their definition) they get from their crimes are not psychopaths, but 'mere' sadists. By most accounts, also, part of the thrill of the kill is watching the life fade from their prey and them and only them owning those last moments. It becomes intoxicating and addictive, and they talk of not being able to stop, instead escalating the behaviour that eventually leads to a number of them being captured.
Of course there's more than one type, and many that never use violence, but that's not to dismiss those that do and get their only 'pleasure' in life from plotting, executing or continuously elevating and escalating their crimes/methods.
Most I've read and watched experts of the subject, it's always said that they are wired differently and derive pleasure from deviant or extreme activities and that they get their kicks, just in different ways to the majority of society, which is why they are often adrenaline junkies and thrill-seekers. Also boastful in closed circles, which wouldn't fit with those who are completely removed and detached.
Hollywood might embellish for the purpose of entertainment, but they get their material from real-life figures for the most part.
You know that’s a great shout as long as your talking about the anime and not the rubbish movie Netflix made. Light certainly has Pyschopathaic tendencies and how the power changes him or influences him is amazing.
@Fortitude I noticed last night on Netflix there is a new docu series called inside the criminal mind. 4 episodes but looks like it talks about Bundy, Gainey, Dahmer and the likes, not quite what you asked for in the op but thought you mind find that intresting.
^^ Cheers. I've had my fill of serial killers, so I'll probably give it a miss.
Shite on a stick.
Same old stories narrated by the same old American voice.
Oh, God....Don't remind me of that Netflix movie....
But yeah, the anime. Not to spoil anything but I think it fits what @Fortitude is looking for in a show revolving around a psycho in that it's not all blood, guts and violence as he put it. It's mainly mind games in a cat and mouse chase.
Oh really, I’ll give it a look anyway. Did fall asleep last night when I started it but that could have been because I started it at around 1 am.
I've seen Deathnote. Got proper into it. Great anime. Even watched the live action one, which wasn't so good.
I thought you had but wasn't sure! Death Note might be the only anime I'd recommend to people who aren't into animated shows just because of how good it is. Well, the first half anyway!
Fun fact: I got my mum to watch Death Note and she loved it despite the fact that she was initially put off due to it being animated.
Question, is Walter White psychopathic?
perhaps you also suggested you're into more types than just this to put her mind at rest? When I was binging on it, I caught my other half watching along with me whilst swearing she can't stand these cartoons and pretending to be messing about on her iPad/Kindle.
Great show to broaden horizons.
You’re spot on, I’m feeling the need to watch it again, it was so good. The anime, not the monstrosity. Think the series is still available on Netflix.
I did but it took many months of persuading to get her to try it
When I was binging on it, I caught my other half watching along with me whilst swearing she can't stand these cartoons and pretending to be messing about on her iPad/Kindle.
Great show to broaden horizons.
I only wanted her to try it because if someone like my mum - who can't stand anime - ended up liking it, then it'd be amazing. After finishing it the first time, I wanted to look up other peoples thoughts on it because I loved it, and I read this on imdb review where someone stated that even if you're not into anime, give it a go. Well, bar my brother who lives in Seoul, my mum is the only person I knew who wasn't into anime so I wanted to see her reaction to it. Amazingly, she enjoyed it so now I feel like it's safe to recommend to those who aren't into anime themselves, too.
I never watched the Netflix film. I could just tell.
As sane as a cucumber, this chap.
Agreed. Is that where you got your handle from or is it kof?I did but it took many months of persuading to get her to try it
I only wanted her to try it because if someone like my mum - who can't stand anime - ended up liking it, then it'd be amazing. After finishing it the first time, I wanted to look up other peoples thoughts on it because I loved it, and I read this on imdb review where someone stated that even if you're not into anime, give it a go. Well, bar my brother who lives in Seoul, my mum is the only person I knew who wasn't into anime so I wanted to see her reaction to it. Amazingly, she enjoyed it so now I feel like it's safe to recommend to those who aren't into anime themselves, too.
It is! Not so much because I loved Death Note (which I do) but more because I really liked the word itself. I've never played kof.
Yagami Lighto! Silence of the Lambs
American Psycho
American Psycho
Question Time.
Being: Liverpool
Always liked Falling down with Michael Douglas.
Vigilante movie before it was cool.
Vigilante movie before it was cool.
You’re either just making stuff up or you’re confusing a psychopath with a sociopath.
Primal Fear
No.
Walter feels, deeply. Cares, deeply. Was fearful and terrified of everyone and everything initially, but grew into the character/personality he became stripping away parts of himself in the process, but still having a conscience and a heart, so to speak.
He's complicated as he has empathy towards his own family and friends but at times lacks empathy towards others and also never accepts blame/responsibility. I wasn't sure if only having "selective empathy" means you can't be psychopathic.
Walter emotes, genuinely, throughout the show. He becomes more ruthless and cold-blooded as it concludes, but his traits aren't psychopathic, I don't think. He has good, old-fashioned bouts of rage and vengeance and compartmentalises his double-life well after years of struggling to get the balance right whilst having numerous nervy moments and near misses he was fearful during, he also has to learn how to lie and deceive; it's not second nature to him. I think it's fair to say he tipped too far in the other direction towards the end, but I think anyone in that line of work can be 'turned' eventually.
If he were psychopathic he'd use people more frequently and coldly (automatically) than he does, too, I think.
This is all in my non-expert opinion, of course.
From what I've read, psychopaths basically act their way through life, masking their truer nature and intent or revealing it to like-minded individuals, whilst sociopaths can selectively turn the dial down without much fuss, can form genuine bonds and friendships that they can drop at the flip of a switch. If White were to be any of the two, it would be the latter, but I don't think he's that either, tbh.
Walter emotes, genuinely, throughout the show. He becomes more ruthless and cold-blooded as it concludes, but his traits aren't psychopathic, I don't think. He has good, old-fashioned bouts of rage and vengeance and compartmentalises his double-life well after years of struggling to get the balance right whilst having numerous nervy moments and near misses he was fearful during, he also has to learn how to lie and deceive; it's not second nature to him. I think it's fair to say he tipped too far in the other direction towards the end, but I think anyone in that line of work can be 'turned' eventually.
If he were psychopathic he'd use people more frequently and coldly (automatically) than he does, too, I think.
This is all in my non-expert opinion, of course.
From what I've read, psychopaths basically act their way through life, masking their truer nature and intent or revealing it to like-minded individuals, whilst sociopaths can selectively turn the dial down without much fuss, can form genuine bonds and friendships that they can drop at the flip of a switch. If White were to be any of the two, it would be the latter, but I don't think he's that either, tbh.
I think you're right. If sociopathic tendencies is a thing that could be applicable. The thing with Jesse's girlfriend and then his justification of it thereafter is pretty sociopathic.