Have people forgotten Haaland was winning UCL golden boot with Dortmund. Yes he plays for City, but that doesn't mean we will discount his ridiculous goal scoring talent. Since joining Salzburg, Haaland has been scoring at over 1 goal per 90.
Haaland is a poor man's Gerd Muller being spoonfed probably by the most dominant PL team of all time with or without him, and always ghosts in the most important games.. City scored more the prior year without him, playing without a proper striker..
Put Kane, Lewa, Benzema, even a 38 year-old Ronaldo in that team, and they would all score tons.. the amount of chances that City creates is crazy, I don't think people realize how dominant City is with or without him..
Mbappe is the real deal, a real spectacular big game-changer, very exciting to watch just like R9, a much more versatile player.. Haaland other than his limited passing, off the ball skills is also boring to watch.. He does not have this X factor associated with geniuses like R9, Romario, Van Basten etc..
I would say
1. Mbappe
2. Kane
3. Haaland
A poor man's Gerd Muller...
As if Muller, Lewa, Mbappe, Messi, Ronaldo etc. hasn't been spoonfed in similarly or more dominant clubs. R9 was really special but unfortunately we didn't see his full potential because of injuries, he still never scored at the same rate. Not even in that one Barca season. City doesn't create more chances than Bayern or PSG or RM or Barca did a few years ago.
xG created in the league games so far this season (top 5 leagues):
Bayern 3,33 xG/90
Leverkusen 3,05 xG/90
Inter 2,71 xG/90
Liverpool 2,52 xG/90
City 2,49 xG/90
Stuttgart 2,47 xG/90
Brighton 2,38 xG/90
Monaco 2,38 xG/90
Barca 2,26 xG/90
PSG 2,23 xG/90
xG for PSG, Bayern, City, Liverpool, Barca, Real Madrid and Dortmund in relevant seasons (I don't have numbers older than 14/15 season) :
Dortmund while Haaland was there (2020 - 2022): 1,89 - 2,03 - 1,93 and City (2022/23): 2,22
Bayern (2018 - 2022) when they dominated the most while Lewa was there: 2,71 - 2,73 - 2,23 - 2,94
PSG while Mbappe has been there (2017 - 2023) 2,27 - 2,17 - 2,21 - 2,83 - 2,51 - 2,37
Barca and Real Madrid averaged between 2,4 and 3,0 between 2014 - 2018 and I suspect they were even higher in the superdominant periods before that. Barca scored 100+ goals in Laliga 6 seasons in a row between 2011 and 2017, Real Madrid did it 8 seasons in a row between 2009 and 2017 and both had multipe seasons with 110+ goals. City has scored 100+ twice (peak 106)
I really can't see how Haaland's been spoonfed any more than any of the other top strikers, quite the opposite.
...and still:
Since the start of the 19/20 season when Haaland exploded in to the scene as a 19 year old for clubs and country:
Haaland:
199 goals (29 pens) and 44 assists in 15691 minutes for Salzburg, Dortmund, City and Norway:
1,14 goals/90
0,98 non penalty goals/90
1,40 goals+assists/90
1,23 non penalty goal + assists/90
Mbappe:
187 goals (27 pens) and 79 assists in 17435 minutes for a stacked PSG in Ligue 1 (this is a joke) and a stacked France:
0,96 goals/90
0,82 non penalty goals/90
1,37 goals+assists/90
1,23 non penalty goal + assists/90
Lewa:
216 goals (30 pens) and 50 assists in 19156 minutes for a stacked Bayern in Bundesliga, Barca and Poland:
1,01 goals/90
0,87 non penalty goals/90
1,25 goals+assists/90
1,10 non penalty goal + assists/90
Kane:
161 goals (37 pens) and 51 assists in 19675 minutes for Spurs, Bayern and England:
0,74 goals/90
0,57 non penalty goals/90
0,97 goals+assists/90
0,80 non penalty goal + assists/90
Talking about players being focal points in dominant teams through their peaks:
Ronaldo for RM in all comps: 450 goals (79 pens) and 131 assists in 37833 minutes
1,07 goals/90
0,88 non penalty goals/90
1,38 goals+assists/90
1,19 non penalty goal + assists/90
Behind Haaland in all end product parameters.
Messi for Barca in all comps: 672 goals (84 pens) and 303 assists in 63507 minutes
0,95 goals/90
0,83 non penalty goals/90
1,38 goals+assists/90
1,26 non penalty goal + assists/90
Behind on all but non penalty goal contributions/90 (where he's marginally ahead)
Do you really think Haaland has had a huge advantage against the others when it comes to playing for a stacked team? Is 2023 City a more stacked team than 2010-15 Barca? How do you rate Haalands current support crew, Alvarez-Doku-Foden vs. Xavi-Iniesta-Neymar/Villa/Fabregas?
Haaland has just completed his first season at a major club and won a treble.
Haalands record in the CL for Dortmund and Salzburg:
23 goals (3 pens)and 3 asssists in 1463 minutes (19 games): 1,42 goals/90 - 1,24 non penalty goals/90 - 1,60 G+A/90 - 1,42 npg+A/90
25 goals in 26 games for Norway.
Was he helped by playing for really dominant teams then as well?
He has about as much X-factor as you can have. At 23 he's already by far the biggest star in the best league, by a distance. He get's 50M a year to wear Nike shoes....
City won their first treble in his first season and he scored 52 goals.
The fact that you think he's boring to watch has to do with taste, not his talent.
Btw:
Van Basten in a top 5 league for Milan: 125 goals and 49 assists in 17287 minutes (201 games) - Best season 33 goals in all comps (47 games) - Champions League 19 goals in 27 games. 24 goals in 58 games for Netherlands....
Romario in top 5 league teams: 45 goals in 77 games (6469 minutes) - 12 goals in 24 games in the CL - went back to Brazil...
Loved watching both, but they were not monsters like Haaland.