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Best Goalkeeper in the league
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Ramsdale is perhaps the best all round keeper in the league. Possibly still pipped by Allison.
He’s hugely underrated and getting better all the time. I’d love him at United. A truly wonderful shithouse too.
Ederson is a funny one as it’s so rare to see him being a goalkeeper. I just giggle when I see him play a one touch volley to a full back like it’s nothing.
Not for nothing, Southgate would play Pickford over all those three.
He’s hugely underrated and getting better all the time. I’d love him at United. A truly wonderful shithouse too.
Ederson is a funny one as it’s so rare to see him being a goalkeeper. I just giggle when I see him play a one touch volley to a full back like it’s nothing.
Not for nothing, Southgate would play Pickford over all those three.
In fairness, ramsdale did himself no favours when he was in goal against Hungary
No chance does Ramsdale make the save De Gea made at the end of the Everton match.
Allison, of course.
Allison, of course.
Probably not. But his overall game is way better. Miles ahead.
Allison is clearly the best keeper in the league
Do some people even watch football? I mean really, with their eyes open and everything? This is a shocker post and by an absolute distance.
Kepa, of course.
You aren't wrong but citing assists and goals for a keeper is a bit crazy. Alisson and Ederson are neck and neck in terms of shot creating actions, which is surely a better (albeit still obviously flawed) metric.
Still though I agree with you - Alisson and Ederson are neck and neck as far as on the ball quality is concerned for me. The only tangible edge I might give Ederson is those low driven passes that never get higher than 20-25m off the ground, but that's such a niche scenario at this point that it's not a significant factor I'd argue.
The mental gymnastics is astounding. The stats are right there, no context needed. And yet... 
IMO i think Ederson is a better passer of a football, long ball especially. Its ok to disagree... but some will also agree with myself
Isnt it actually Paul Robinson with assists anyway... I swear he is either level or ahead
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I agree. Allisson is the clearly the best keeper in the league, Ederson is clearly better with the feet to anyone who watches them both, sadly he's only ok at all the other aspects of goalkeeping.
Its easier to get assists when you're playing Pulisball vs a high line.
Several goalies looked like they wanted the title this weekend. Guaita, Kepa, Alisson, Ramsdale, Raya and Sà all putting in fantastic performances this weekend. Kepa pipped it this weekend for me.
The mental gymnastics needed to convince yourself that one keeper is a better passer than another because he has launched a few balls that have ended up as goals is fairly astounding.The mental gymnastics is astounding. The stats are right there, no context needed. And yet...
If Kepa really does cement his position as number 1 and goes on to have a good Chelsea career, it's gotta be up there with the biggest comebacks from flopdom ever, right?
When did Brazil start having the best keepers in the world, when they had flair in 70/80s it would have been great to see them win a wc, not saying their keepers were poor but not at elite level for the time period,
Especially if he keeps this up (spoiler alert - it's basically inconceivable that he would keep this up)
Apart from his shot saving, how has he actually played?
Sweeping, passing, cross claiming, aerials etc?
Wanna swap Spainards?
He's still weak on aerial crosses (and probably still always will be), but he's absolutely elite in terms of sweeping and passing. He is very obviously more comfortable on the ball compared to Mendy.
If he can maintain the above average shot stopping numbers he's put up during his time as a backup then he's a tremendous option for us; especially as Mendy's shot stopping numbers last year were entirely mediocre.
Interesting. I'll keep an eye out on his game.
I always thought he looked a bit flappy/reacting to the shot rather than relying on positioning and covering angles etc but instinct and elite athleticism goes a loooong way too.
Allisson
Ederson
Pope
Ramsdale
Ederson
Pope
Ramsdale
Yeah I think your take is spot on. He looked utterly lost under Lampard, but ever since Tuchel came in and started working with him he's improved his positioning significantly.
He put up literally the worst ever PL season in terms of PSxGA under Lampard then went to being more or less average under Tuchel (at least in small sample sizes). A big thing mechanically with him is he had always dropped his hands behind him in order to build momentum for his dive (hence a lot of the flappyness and weak wrists), but there's been a concerted effort to get him to stop doing that for the past few years and it seems to be bearing fruit. The save he made against Ramsey was incredible for any keeper but given Kepa's previous it was flat-out astonishing because it simply would not have been physically possible with his earlier technique.
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Fantastic header by Casemiro and maybe I'm being harsh but I thought it was a bit poor from Kepa. I'm not sure if it's me but I keep thinking 'the keeper has to move his feet better there' a lot nowadays. I said the same for De Gea when he conceded Iwobi's goal against Everton. I think Kepa dived under it/reacted to the shot (i.e dived too early from his spot) instead of moving his feet.
Kepa with chocolate wrists for the goal sadly.
He was good apart from that though.
He was good apart from that though.
Mendy would have comfortably saved that it has to be said.
Really? It was a very well placed header going across the goal and he did well to tip it onto the post. More luck and it would've been heralded as one of the saves of the weekend.
He got a full hand to it but it still went in. It was a great header but Kepa will rightly be annoyed with himself there.
DDG is best in terms of out and out goalkeeping, just doesn't have the other attributes of say Allison or Ederson, and even then it's not like it's bad. Everyone seems to underrate him for some reason.
Agree, no one close to the two you mention
Not sure what you mean by out and out goalkeeping, but if you mean traditional, pre Neuer stay in your box goalkeeping, then even then he's not the best. Shot stopping, leap, and reflex saves yes, but crosses, coming off his line, 1 v 1, penalties, he's a long way from the best.
And that weird moment where he seemed to try to catch a ball that was spinning harmlessly wide and only succeeded in knocking it out for a corner. In that moment, I had never felt so seen as a seven aside goalkeeper.
He's 16th in the league at shot stopping. De Gea isn't even in this conversation unless you have an absurd level of United bias.
De Gea is one of the worst all rounders in the league.Allison is the best goalkeeper and I’d argue by some distance.
totally agree. Not even in the top three United keepers of all time
Allison.
Alisson by some distance. It is not even close.
So their keeper’s been making saves. OMG. They must be shite. Allison up there too. Liverpool also clearly shite. Likewise Newcastle.
Liverpool have been shite this season yes. Main point being Kepa had those stats from 3 games only not 10/11
Allison by miles. Since he joined, out of the 33 keepers with at least 30 appearances, he's...
* 2nd best shot stopper in the league
* 1st best at sweeping
* 2nd best at long range passing
* 11th at taking crosses
He's top 2 in 3 categories, no other keeper manages the top 3 in more than 1 category. Add in how good he is at one vs ones and resisting a press, and I don't see anyone who is close to his level.
* 2nd best shot stopper in the league
* 1st best at sweeping
* 2nd best at long range passing
* 11th at taking crosses
He's top 2 in 3 categories, no other keeper manages the top 3 in more than 1 category. Add in how good he is at one vs ones and resisting a press, and I don't see anyone who is close to his level.