Thanks for correcting me.
Benni McCarthy leaves United
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Thanks for correcting me.
Leaving this summer
Hope Wilcox will bring a better coach for our strikers to learn from and to set some patterns of play
We'll always have that couple of months when Rashford could head the ball.
Type of appointment that was made because of 'vibez' and not credentials.
Kaizer Chiefs is a cooler name to be fair.
It’s a bit embarrassing that we even signed him and tells a lot about our staff recruitment
Based on what?
Seems a bit negative for negatives sake to slag the bloke off seeing as none of us actually saw him doing his day to day job.
Never stops the caf experts to give their expert opinion on things they are clueless on.
Based on his lack of credentials and bang average managerial and coaching career
We all seen it on the pitch though. Our attacking play was awful. Not saying it’s solely down to him though.
People here were wanking 23 times a day seeing him high five Rashford at the end of the game where he headed the ball into goal. We have no idea of what the staff do and the limitations they're operating under. The same lot who slagged McKenna are the ones wanting him to manage United. Best not to comment based on our ignorance.
Yeah this. It's amazing to see people defend him because we don't sit at Carrington all day. He's achieved nothing as a coach and has been the striker coach for a team that finished -2 GD.
-1 GD. But it's good that he has been held accountable for that.
A side that scored more goals than Artetas Arsenal that finished 8th from a shitty XG. If anything it's showing his coaching on chance conversion is strong.
We've only got 1 first team striker and he did as well as could hve been reasonably expected
Hard to argue with that! I find it a bit weird for a coach (not a manager) to be so out of shape though.
Round is also a shape!
While it can't be conclusively proven that he was bad at his job our fecking embarrassing goal difference the past two seasons doesn't reflect well on him as a specialist attacking coach does it? Probably the right decision to get rid.
Conceding 200 goals will always lead to a bad goal difference.
If INEOS didn’t want to renew his contract and let him go then what does this mean for ETH? He brought him in and it’s not fair to get rid of his back room team unless you’re getting rid of him. Are we gonna replace him with another attacking coach specialist?
You suggesting we hire him as our attacking coach? I’d be down for that
If he wants to stay he'll accept Ineos' judgement on which members of his backroom staff are good enough to be here. A couple of top coaches added to his team could help him turn things around.
I agree. Aslong as like you said they do actually bring in top coaches. You can always tell if the teams coached proper by the way they play on the pitch.
I'm genuinely curious as to what credentials you're talking for a "forwards coaching" role (which I think is the official role with us?)? I'm not even sure other big clubs have this role, and if they do/did (like defence coach, GK coach etc.), then what are the credentials of those individuals?
I'm asking because i honestly don't know, but I can't recall seeing any prominent names, outside of possibly ex-pros who end up in some of those roles. McCarthy has some experience as assistant manager and also as head coach (albeit in a shitty league like ours here) where he did quite well here locally. I'm thinking as an ex-pro who reached the highest levels of football (& winning the UCL) and with some actual management experience, surely for the role he has with us, his "credentials" aren't that shocking?
Officially left the club.
Bennie talked about the two best trainers. Only two players were fully committed in training.
Dalot and Fernandes.
Of course he was talking a Portuguese media outlet, ZeroZero.
Dalot and Fernandes.
Of course he was talking a Portuguese media outlet, ZeroZero.
I can imagine Bruno and Dalot training well though. Maybe it's a different cultural upbringing? It's really disappointing to hear things like this from an ex-coach though. You hear people saying that some Man Utd players are just here for the pay cheque and are coasting. You don't want to believe it but sometimes you wonder if it's really true?
Clearly happy he was moved on!
ETH is a disciplinarian and obviously isn’t trying to be pally with the players, I have zero issues with that, there’s a huge playing staff if you need some hype men. It just seems like there’s always an excuse with our players.
Every study ever made on management shows that the disciplinarian/stick approach never works in the long run. If that's your only approach as a manager then you're doomed to fail. I think what Benni is saying is true, and that's not an excuse for the players, it's a Ten Hag issue. If you think about peak Jose, he was pally with the players but absolutely ruthless when he needed to be, he got away with it because he was charming and charismatic, you didn't want to let him down. Ten Hag is none of those things.
Mourinho is (or better was) the master of the "we against the world" approach. Bad for you when he threw you out of this "we", but as long as you were part of it you were running through a brick wall for him.
Yep, I agree. I think peak Jose was the most impressive manager I've ever seen. His teams were machines. He would get results you thought were impossible.
Post 390 and 391 
Tactical Mastery are not two words I would ever associate with ETH after watching his football team for 2 and a bit seasons.