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Benjamin Sesko | Despite Raees best efforts he’s joining Liepzig. Damn you Raees
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Nunez really looks the part and I would have been happy to get him here. Ronaldo did get us 24 goals last season and we can't rely on Martial, so we need to bring in a CF who will score 20/25 goals a season and will be around for a long time. Nunez and Haaland if they stay injury free, will score lots of goals for their teams.
We do, but if we can't find him then we improve in other areas and fix that next summer.
So we settle for another top 6 finish.
I like him but I think for someone with his skill set to become world class he needs to become very very good at setting up his team mates. Big, tall lad and seems a good finisher but if you aren’t going to push the defence back with pace then you need to push them forward by making them close you down before you can play one of your team mates in behind.
Not necessarily. City didn't have a natural goalscorer you'd expect 25-30 goals from whereas Spurs did. If our football comes on leaps and bounds and we develop a great style of play it'll improve us more than a rushed panic CF signing. Of course I want another RVN / RVP at United but I just don't feel everything boils down to the CF your team has and his expected goal tally.
but we have known this since the greenwood issue….to go into the season relying on ronaldo and only him for our goals, oh and the guy we loaned out last season, for a club of our stature…it’s pretty obvious why we deserve to be around the positions we achieve these days in the league.
I think this is getting a bit over-stated now. He scored five goals in fewer than 11 full 90mins. Hardly a bad return for an eighteen year old who’s growing into his body.
He already has a goal and an assist in Les than two full games this season. At this age, it’s hard to judge purely on numbers.
He had a great performance against Liverpool and fairly elite defenders like Konaté.His fundamentals are good, his central attacking runs are very promising and he’s got a lovely strike on him. I have no doubt the goals will come for him as he matures.
Ok mate, we will agree to differ, but I really think we need a top forward who will score lots of goals and I still think Ten Hag will go all out for one.
30m + 10m bonus if he gets certain amount of games + 5 if United reach CL place + 10 if he grabs certain amounts of goals, should do it, no?
Yes, It should be enough, but they want him loaned back for another year.
Even then - agent or agency often works for many different players, including proactive search of new club for their clients. Very difficult to prove a club liable of a violation here
Yeah agreed it does seem the case.
Of course there's always doubt but imo he got considerable potential and personally I'd love to have him here. He surely looks promising enough. Anyway imo we should trust ETH on this, he seems to be pretty great regarding reading young players and developing them I think.
I think they prefer him to stay for another season, but I don't think they'd want him back on loan that desperately. If they get enough money, they will let him go. They have Okafor, Koita, Adamu, Fernando and also Simic who is almost the same player type as Sesko.
Not really. It’s lot lot lot harder to score goals in PL, and hence it’s less important to measure young PL forward by goals. But for Swiss league, people would have expect more. Truth is, no one talk about him before preseasons, so he is not much a special talent based on last season form. Also, 5 goals for a CF in Swiss league is a really very very poor return, especially for someone who is valued at 50m. It’s not rocket science to figure that one out my friend.
For example, the top scorer last season in Swiss is Pefok, who has 22 goals. Just 2 season prior to the last one, he has 0 goal in 14 games in Ligue 1. It’s really very poor league.
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No need to condescdend.
I believed you right off the bat that Sesko has only scored 5 goals with Red Bull. Went to check his youth team record and saw that you actually have misrepresented his stats.
He has scored over twice that many goals for Red Bull (including in the Champions League) and 20+ while on loan to their feeder club right after making the break thru from the youth setup.
This whole discussion is distorted by your hiding truth to make a point.
The "only 5 goals" thing has been debunked already. Last season he played 24 matches in the league, being the substitue in 16 of those, so you have to look at goals per minutes played which is 193'. He also had 3 assists. He played 4 matches in the Austrian cup, scoring 4 times with 3 assists, and played 2 CL games with scoring 1 and assisting 1 goal. This year he played 3 games scoring 2 with 1 assist. So whilst its not Haaland numbers you cannot say that its a very poor return. But more importantly the hype around him is because he has a rare combination of height, strenght, speed and footwork whilst being an aggressive presser and willing runner off the ball. He undoubtedly needs to drastically improve his finishing and passing, but its not like he's bad at it he just rushes it far too often. But if anything these are the 2 things I could see seriously improving under a coach like Ten Hag.
Another thing to note is that with Šeško we would get something that no other United forward has - really aggressive pressing from the tip of the formation. Martial and Rashford can obviously improve their press but a 6'4 foot guy running full sprint to press you is a different kind of problem for defenders.
He scored 5 goals in 24 games last season in Swiss league. That’s a fact. The other 5 goals he scored are in domestic cup, if that’s important stats to you, you are free to count them too.
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Exactly, it was established earlier in this thread he plays in the German league.
Poster harps about player not scoring goals.
Same poster says goals in one competition versus the other not important.
Classic mental gymnastics. Like I said, between going from friendly discussion to condescending and the fact that you're willfully ignoring stats when using stats...that's it from me. Enjoy your day.
Mate, RB New York dominating the Bundesliga is the worst
For starters, it's the Austrian League; he doesn't play in Switzerland. Also, the vast majority of those 24 matches were played as a substitute. He played 979 minutes last season in the Austrian Bundesliga, which equates to 10.9 full 90 minute matches. Roughly speaking, he scored a goal once every two full matches worth of football he played; that's not bad going for a player his age.
Oi. They're the same place for us Americans. All part of west central notamerica continent
Shows how good your geography knowledge is. Everyone knows RB New York plays in the Slovenian league,
Well my bad, I got it mixed up, it’s Austrian league be exact. Anyway, let’s not pretend it’s a very tough league.
Yeh I got it mixed up, should be Austrian league.
Anyway, I am not saying he is bad player, just that he isn’t worth 50m at any stretch yet.
Oh I agree, was just a nod towards the last time a team did get stung over this with Liverpool/Van Dijk/Blackpool
Woot
That's some good news if true. I really hope we would land the lad and if ETH wants him he must be pretty good I think.
Reliable?
Probably as close as FdJ
If Chelsea and Real are trying to sign him this lad is special and we should go for it honestly. Real in particular only go for top young talents.
Malacia was here we g0oooooo close with Lyon until we came in. You are never truly safe from the gazump. So unless he’s just clicked the pen he’s about to sign with, I’m calling rubbish.
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