Behind the Curtain | Eastern European draft | The winner: Skizzo
- Thread starter harms
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Downcast (Anders Emil Våge) 1. F. Puskás 2. B. Zebec 3. G. Popescu 4. B. Vukas 5. C. Dinu
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner
László Bölöni and Hasan Salihamidžić
Downcast (Anders Emil Våge) 1. F. Puskás 2. B. Zebec 3. G. Popescu 4. B. Vukas 5. C. Dinu
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner 5. L. Bölöni 6. H. Salihamidžić
@Gio @Theon
Downcast (Anders Emil Våge) 1. F. Puskás 2. B. Zebec 3. G. Popescu 4. B. Vukas 5. C. Dinu
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner 5. L. Bölöni 6. H. Salihamidžić
@Gio @Theon
Good one @Jayvin . Wishful thinking that Salihamidzic would last until my turn.
WLODZIMIERZ LUBANSKI
Downcast (Anders Emil Våge) 1. F. Puskás 2. B. Zebec 3. G. Popescu 4. B. Vukas 5. C. Dinu
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev 6. W. Lubanski
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner 5. L. Bölöni 6. H. Salihamidžić
@RedTiger
@2mufc0
Downcast (Anders Emil Våge) 1. F. Puskás 2. B. Zebec 3. G. Popescu 4. B. Vukas 5. C. Dinu
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev 6. W. Lubanski
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner 5. L. Bölöni 6. H. Salihamidžić
@RedTiger
@2mufc0
Btw, would love to hear more about him if you or Theon would have time - as I understand it, he is widely regarded as Poland's best ever player (alongside Boniek and Deyna), who sadly missed out on their 1974 World Cup run, losing on some media and fans attention. His story looks a lot like Streltsov's
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Aye it was between him and Suker for me. Lubanski is a complete attacker from what I've seen although it's a bit what if around him - injuries pretty much ruined him at the age of 26.
Opted for Suker as he has that extra oomph around him and some of his big games performances I've witnessed live really made me choose him.
Lubanski however in turn 6 is a great pick.
Downcast (Anders Emil Våge) 1. F. Puskás 2. B. Zebec 3. G. Popescu 4. B. Vukas 5. C. Dinu
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić 6. M. Hamšík
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev 6. W. Lubanski
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner 5. L. Bölöni 6. H. Salihamidžić
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić 6. M. Hamšík
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev 6. W. Lubanski
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner 5. L. Bölöni 6. H. Salihamidžić
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Downcast (Anders Emil Våge) 1. F. Puskás 2. B. Zebec 3. G. Popescu 4. B. Vukas 5. C. Dinu
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan 6. Y. Letchkov
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić 6. M. Hamšík
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev 6. W. Lubanski
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner 5. L. Bölöni 6. H. Salihamidžić
@Enigma_87
Downcast (Anders Emil Våge) 1. F. Puskás 2. B. Zebec 3. G. Popescu 4. B. Vukas 5. C. Dinu
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás 6. L. Novák
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan 6. Y. Letchkov
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić 6. M. Hamšík
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev 6. W. Lubanski
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner 5. L. Bölöni 6. H. Salihamidžić
@Tuppet
Hamsik is a great pick at this stage!
Please don't hesitate to leave your picks if your turn is coming
I left mine with harms but I think we both went offline at the exact same time.
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Downcast (Anders Emil Våge) 1. F. Puskás 2. B. Zebec 3. G. Popescu 4. B. Vukas 5. C. Dinu
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan 6. F. Deak
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás 6. L. Novák
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan 6. Y. Letchkov
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić 6. M. Hamšík
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev 6. W. Lubanski
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner 5. L. Bölöni 6. H. Salihamidžić
@mazhar13 @oneniltothearsenal
Downcast (Anders Emil Våge) 1. F. Puskás 2. B. Zebec 3. G. Popescu 4. B. Vukas 5. C. Dinu
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan 6. F. Deak
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás 6. L. Novák
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan 6. Y. Letchkov
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić 6. M. Hamšík
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev 6. W. Lubanski
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner 5. L. Bölöni 6. H. Salihamidžić
@mazhar13 @oneniltothearsenal
I was not referring to you but the next posters. Some live in Asia, Australia, Canada...
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How appropriate of our pick for this round to wear the t-shirt that he's wearing:
Downcast (Anders Emil Våge) 1. F. Puskás 2. B. Zebec 3. G. Popescu 4. B. Vukas 5. C. Dinu
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi 6. J. Skoblar
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan 6. F. Deak
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás 6. L. Novák
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan 6. Y. Letchkov
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić 6. M. Hamšík
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev 6. W. Lubanski
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner 5. L. Bölöni 6. H. Salihamidžić
@Raees
When I watched him front of the goal, each time, I was thinking, kick from the inside of the left foot, ... from the outside of the right foot ... a header, now! ... he had already done it ... scoring each time, exactly by the only possible way, and in just a split second. In the last 30 years, he has been the only striker that I've seen like that in France
Downcast (Anders Emil Våge) 1. F. Puskás 2. B. Zebec 3. G. Popescu 4. B. Vukas 5. C. Dinu
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi 6. J. Skoblar
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan 6. F. Deak
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás 6. L. Novák
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan 6. Y. Letchkov
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić 6. M. Hamšík
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev 6. W. Lubanski
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner 5. L. Bölöni 6. H. Salihamidžić
@Raees
I knew you weren't having a go mate. I was just making excuses for my role in the shite pace we've progressed at lately
I was seriously considering dropping Sarosi back to SS/AM and picking him. He must have been a hell of a finisher.
Yeah, he is right up there as Poland's greatest ever player along with Deyna, Boniek and Lato. He seems to be regarded in even higher esteem by the Poles and won the UEFA Golden Player Award for Poland as their standout from the last 50 years. Precocious talent having made his goalscoring debut for the national team at just 16 and being very productive over the next 10 years or so until his injury. Used to tear it up in Europe a lot for Gornik Zabrze, scoring against United in 1968 (pushing them dangerously close to an exit on their way to the big one), Rangers in 1969 and is one of the all-time top scorers in the Cup Winners Cup (and has the best ratio amongst all the top players including the likes of Gerd Muller and Hristo Stoichkov). Featured in a World XI in 1971 for Yashin's farewell game. No wonder the rise and fall of Gornik coincides entirely with Lubanski's career.
A complete centre-forward from what I can tell, very quick, excellent finisher - be it in the box off either foot, in the air, or from range - adept at working the front line, pressing from the front (see him robbing Bobby Moore below), dovetailing with other creative players. Certainly a case of 'what if' for the national team had he not done his cruciate against England in 1973, given how good Poland were around then and, in retrospect, that was a lucky break for West Germany and Holland. Still netted 48 goals in 75 internationals by the age of just 26, winning the Olympics in 1972 as well.
Rangers fan who saw him in 1969 said:
Man City manager Malcolm Allison said:
Lubanski vs Moore (Vs England WC qualifier) -
http://inbedwithmaradona.com/journal/2012/11/12/how-roy-mcfarland-cost-poland-the-world-cup.html
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The Pole who tore the Divine Master to shreds, went 'toe to toe' with Leonidas/Sarosi.. and fought for the Nazi's
ERNST 'EZI' WILLIMOWSKI
One of the greatest scorers in history of the game but should have been the greatest. Over the course of his career, he scored an unofficial total of 1,175 goals but Rec.Sport.Soccer Statistics Foundation credits Wilimowski with 554 official goals, making him the 10th-most prolific goalscorer in history. Bearing in mind that he was 21 in 1938, and lost his career during the war (forced to play for the Germans during WW2) it is an astonishing statistic and a depressing one when you realise what this guy could have been had the political situation been very different. His story is just as if not more devastating than Sindelar especially when you consider how unknown he remains.
And what a footballer he was -- lightning-fast over the first yards, two-footed, a gifted dribbler and lethal in front of goal. Fritz Walter, the captain of West Germany's 1954 World Cup-winning team, once said that Wilimowski was the only striker who would score more goals than he had opportunities. It was no hyperbole. Before he was 20, Wilimowski had won the Golden Boot in Poland twice. In 1934, he scored for Poland against Germany, the country of his parents. On June 5 1938, shortly before his 22nd birthday, he became the first man to score four goals in a World Cup game -- against Brazil, no less.
1. Style of Play
Wilimowski was a 'Suarezesque' aggressive, natural scoring machine with excellent dribbling abilities. He had very accurate shot and it's interesting he scored most of his goals with left foot although he had more kicking power in his right foot. Ezi was a great technician with superb control of the ball and bags of tricks, he was also very skilful and liked to beat his rivals with quick sudden turns and deceptions. He was very agile with good pace and scoring instinct but knew to exaggerate with his dribblings (Feints).
2. Background
His parents, Ernst-Roman and Paulina, were German. His father, a soldier for the German Empire, died on the Western Front in the First World War. His mother sent him to a German kindergarten, a German primary school[and, when he was nine years old, to the German football team 1. FC Kattowitz. At the age of 13, he was legally adopted by his stepfather, who was Polish, and took on the surname Willimowski. At home, he spoke German for the most part, while in public he often spoke a Silesian dialect of the Polish language. Officially a citizen of Poland, he referred to himself as a Silesian.
3. Early Pre War Club Career
Willimowski, who had six toes on his right foot, initially played on the left side as a forward and showed himself to be a very skilled dribbler as well as a natural goalscorer. He began his career with the ethnically German club 1. FC Kattowitz, then in 1933 before moved to Polish side Ruch Wielkie Hajduki, today known as Ruch Chorzów. "Ezi" quickly established himself as the team's best player: in his first season, aged 17, he scored 33 goals to lead the league. His first Ekstraklasa game took place on 8 April 1934, a few weeks later, he capped for Polish national team. With a number of excellent footballers besides Willimowski (for example XXXXXX and XXXXXXXX), Ruch dominated Polish soccer and were the league champions in 1933-1936 and 1938.
Willimowski played 86 games for Ruch, scoring 112 goals, and was the league's top scorer in 1934 and 1936. He also led the league in scoring in 1939 until the German invasion of Poland. On 21 May 1939, he scored 10 goals in a single match against Union Touring Łódź as his club won 12-1. That performance still stands as a league record.
4. Early International Career - Debut and Drinking Issues...
Soon after beginning his club football career, "Ezi" earned his first cap for Poland when he debuted against Denmark in København on 21 May 1934 in a 2:4 loss: he was just 17 years and 332 days old. In a total of 22 appearances for Poland Willimowski netted 21 goals, nearly a goal per game. However, his off field conduct was less than ideal and in 1936 the young man's penchant for drinking and partying led to a one-year suspension imposed by the Polish football association just before the Olympic Games in Berlin. Without his goal scoring touch the Poles managed only a fourth-place finish in the Olympic tournament. Many felt that his presence could have brought the team a gold medal.
5. Rise to Fame - 1938 World Cup Match v Brazil (scoring 4 goals)... drunk again
In a match against Brazil played in Strasbourg, France during the 1938 FIFA World Cup, "Ezi" put on a stunning display by becoming the first player ever to score four goals in a single World Cup match against a side with Leonidas Da Silva (who scored a hat-trick) and a defence marshalled by Domingos Da Guia. His irrepressible rampant dribbling attacks on the opposition net drew a penalty as he was rugby tackled to the ground by Da Guia earning a penalty (see Gif below), which led to Poland's fifth goal scored from the spot by German-born XXXXXXXX, from Poznań. Despite Ezi's efforts, including some outside of the foot dink over the keeper (see gif 2 below) however, it was not enough - Poland lost the match 5-6 and was eliminated from the tournament. Willimowski's record was later equalled by other players, but was bettered only 56 years later, when XXXXXXX scored five goals against XXXXXX during the XXXX FIFA World Cup. And as of 2014 it still remains the only World Cup match when a player from the losing side scored four goals.
Although Poland lost the match in Paris 6-5 after extra time, Wilimowski was an instant sensation. Legend has it he celebrated his achievement, a record that stood for 56 years, by getting so drunk in a bar that he signed three professional contracts on the spot. (It could be true. He was always very partial to liquor.) It is said that Brazilian officials wanted to acquire his services and that Willimowski had signed a preliminary contract, but it did not work out. Another legend says that when his teammates dragged him out of the place, tearing up the contracts, he never forgave them.
6. Hat-Trick v Sarosi's Hungary
Willimowski put on another memorable display on 27 August 1939 in Warsaw in an international friendly against what was then one of the best teams in the world - Hungary, the 1938 World Cup runner-up. After 33 minutes of play the Hungarians were ahead 2:0. Willimowski scored three goals and again drew a penalty through his attacking play which was converted by teammate XXXXXXXX, giving Poland a 4:2 win. The match was the last game played before the start of World War II just four days later.
7. Joining the Nazi's..
15 months after the Brazil game, Germany invaded Poland. Wilimowski took up German citizenship, though not primarily because of his family background. "At the time, allegiance to Germany was an important survival strategy in the border area".
After the division of Poland, Willimowski as Volksdeutscher re-took German citizenship, like the majority of the inhabitants of the Eastern part of Upper Silesia, among them all the players of the Polish national team coming from this region. It allowed them to continue their football careers as Poles were not permitted to participate in sports under the Nazi occupation. In the early days of the war Willimowski had to hide from the Nazis because of the enmity of a local kreisleiter (ward leader) of the NSDAP namedXXXXXXX who held against Willimowski the 1933 transfer from the ethnically-German club 1. FC Kattowitz to the Polish Ruch Chorzów.[5] Allegedly, XXXXX threatened that Willimowski would have to wear the letter "P" (for Pole) on his clothes. This never happened, as Willimowski was too good a player and well appreciated by other German football officials. However, his mother Paulina, was placed in Auschwitz Concentration Camp, which she survived. Wilimowski's mother was incarcerated because she got engaged in an intimate relationship with a Russian Jew, which was regarded as Rassenschande in Nazi Germany. Ernst, who in later stages of the war became friends with legendary pilot Hermann Graf, managed to save her, with Graf's help.
8. Career during the War
In June 1941, Wilimowski first ran out for his new national team. Against Romania, he found the target twice, thus becoming the only man who scored both for and against Germany. He followed that performance with three goals against Finland in Helsinki on 5 October 1941 as the Germans scored an easy 6-0 win. Willimowski's most memorable performance for the German national side came on 18 October 1942 in Bern, Switzerland as the Germans defeated a well-respected Swiss national team by a score of 5-3. "Ezi" scored four of five goals with the other being netted by Fritz Walter.
Wilimowski was capped a total of eight times for Germany, scoring 13 goals (1.63 per match). His last appearance for Germany was in a 5-2 victory over Slovakia in Bratislava on 22 November 1942. After this match Germany no longer played international friendlies because of the war.
Post War Legacy...
Ernst Willimowski was a historic link between the Polish and the Germans, and the perfect symbol of the mindless destruction war can wreak on the common man who just wishes to go about his business. His dream was to become a professional footballer, but the truth is he underestimated his ability as he could have been one of the biggest names ever in the history of football had it not been for the war. Many players talk about how the war prevented many a career from reaching its peak but none suffered quite as much as Willimowski.
In the eyes of many Poles, he became a traitor. After the war, only a few people in Poland wanted to hear the reasons why he had worn the shirt with the Swastika. Under communist rule, he was blacklisted and his name erased from the record books.
A similar fate befell him in post war West Germany. He was too old to be seriously considered for the 1954 World Cup squad, and so Wilimowski did not become a "Hero of Berne", just an unwelcome reminder of a recent past many people wanted to forget quickly. To this day, nobody has scored more goals in a season of the German cup competition than Wilimowski (he netted 14 goals in 1942, when he won the trophy with 1860 Munich) and some books list him as having scored more than 1,000 goals during his career, a feat barely a handful of footballers can match. Yet few German fans have ever heard his name. He remains the only player to have both a goal against Germany (on September 9, 1934 at 2:5 in Warsaw) as well as scoring Germany (13 in 8 games).
ERNST 'EZI' WILLIMOWSKI
One of the greatest scorers in history of the game but should have been the greatest. Over the course of his career, he scored an unofficial total of 1,175 goals but Rec.Sport.Soccer Statistics Foundation credits Wilimowski with 554 official goals, making him the 10th-most prolific goalscorer in history. Bearing in mind that he was 21 in 1938, and lost his career during the war (forced to play for the Germans during WW2) it is an astonishing statistic and a depressing one when you realise what this guy could have been had the political situation been very different. His story is just as if not more devastating than Sindelar especially when you consider how unknown he remains.
And what a footballer he was -- lightning-fast over the first yards, two-footed, a gifted dribbler and lethal in front of goal. Fritz Walter, the captain of West Germany's 1954 World Cup-winning team, once said that Wilimowski was the only striker who would score more goals than he had opportunities. It was no hyperbole. Before he was 20, Wilimowski had won the Golden Boot in Poland twice. In 1934, he scored for Poland against Germany, the country of his parents. On June 5 1938, shortly before his 22nd birthday, he became the first man to score four goals in a World Cup game -- against Brazil, no less.
1. Style of Play
Wilimowski was a 'Suarezesque' aggressive, natural scoring machine with excellent dribbling abilities. He had very accurate shot and it's interesting he scored most of his goals with left foot although he had more kicking power in his right foot. Ezi was a great technician with superb control of the ball and bags of tricks, he was also very skilful and liked to beat his rivals with quick sudden turns and deceptions. He was very agile with good pace and scoring instinct but knew to exaggerate with his dribblings (Feints).
2. Background
His parents, Ernst-Roman and Paulina, were German. His father, a soldier for the German Empire, died on the Western Front in the First World War. His mother sent him to a German kindergarten, a German primary school[and, when he was nine years old, to the German football team 1. FC Kattowitz. At the age of 13, he was legally adopted by his stepfather, who was Polish, and took on the surname Willimowski. At home, he spoke German for the most part, while in public he often spoke a Silesian dialect of the Polish language. Officially a citizen of Poland, he referred to himself as a Silesian.
3. Early Pre War Club Career
Willimowski, who had six toes on his right foot, initially played on the left side as a forward and showed himself to be a very skilled dribbler as well as a natural goalscorer. He began his career with the ethnically German club 1. FC Kattowitz, then in 1933 before moved to Polish side Ruch Wielkie Hajduki, today known as Ruch Chorzów. "Ezi" quickly established himself as the team's best player: in his first season, aged 17, he scored 33 goals to lead the league. His first Ekstraklasa game took place on 8 April 1934, a few weeks later, he capped for Polish national team. With a number of excellent footballers besides Willimowski (for example XXXXXX and XXXXXXXX), Ruch dominated Polish soccer and were the league champions in 1933-1936 and 1938.
Willimowski played 86 games for Ruch, scoring 112 goals, and was the league's top scorer in 1934 and 1936. He also led the league in scoring in 1939 until the German invasion of Poland. On 21 May 1939, he scored 10 goals in a single match against Union Touring Łódź as his club won 12-1. That performance still stands as a league record.
4. Early International Career - Debut and Drinking Issues...
Soon after beginning his club football career, "Ezi" earned his first cap for Poland when he debuted against Denmark in København on 21 May 1934 in a 2:4 loss: he was just 17 years and 332 days old. In a total of 22 appearances for Poland Willimowski netted 21 goals, nearly a goal per game. However, his off field conduct was less than ideal and in 1936 the young man's penchant for drinking and partying led to a one-year suspension imposed by the Polish football association just before the Olympic Games in Berlin. Without his goal scoring touch the Poles managed only a fourth-place finish in the Olympic tournament. Many felt that his presence could have brought the team a gold medal.
5. Rise to Fame - 1938 World Cup Match v Brazil (scoring 4 goals)... drunk again
In a match against Brazil played in Strasbourg, France during the 1938 FIFA World Cup, "Ezi" put on a stunning display by becoming the first player ever to score four goals in a single World Cup match against a side with Leonidas Da Silva (who scored a hat-trick) and a defence marshalled by Domingos Da Guia. His irrepressible rampant dribbling attacks on the opposition net drew a penalty as he was rugby tackled to the ground by Da Guia earning a penalty (see Gif below), which led to Poland's fifth goal scored from the spot by German-born XXXXXXXX, from Poznań. Despite Ezi's efforts, including some outside of the foot dink over the keeper (see gif 2 below) however, it was not enough - Poland lost the match 5-6 and was eliminated from the tournament. Willimowski's record was later equalled by other players, but was bettered only 56 years later, when XXXXXXX scored five goals against XXXXXX during the XXXX FIFA World Cup. And as of 2014 it still remains the only World Cup match when a player from the losing side scored four goals.
Although Poland lost the match in Paris 6-5 after extra time, Wilimowski was an instant sensation. Legend has it he celebrated his achievement, a record that stood for 56 years, by getting so drunk in a bar that he signed three professional contracts on the spot. (It could be true. He was always very partial to liquor.) It is said that Brazilian officials wanted to acquire his services and that Willimowski had signed a preliminary contract, but it did not work out. Another legend says that when his teammates dragged him out of the place, tearing up the contracts, he never forgave them.
6. Hat-Trick v Sarosi's Hungary
Willimowski put on another memorable display on 27 August 1939 in Warsaw in an international friendly against what was then one of the best teams in the world - Hungary, the 1938 World Cup runner-up. After 33 minutes of play the Hungarians were ahead 2:0. Willimowski scored three goals and again drew a penalty through his attacking play which was converted by teammate XXXXXXXX, giving Poland a 4:2 win. The match was the last game played before the start of World War II just four days later.
7. Joining the Nazi's..
15 months after the Brazil game, Germany invaded Poland. Wilimowski took up German citizenship, though not primarily because of his family background. "At the time, allegiance to Germany was an important survival strategy in the border area".
After the division of Poland, Willimowski as Volksdeutscher re-took German citizenship, like the majority of the inhabitants of the Eastern part of Upper Silesia, among them all the players of the Polish national team coming from this region. It allowed them to continue their football careers as Poles were not permitted to participate in sports under the Nazi occupation. In the early days of the war Willimowski had to hide from the Nazis because of the enmity of a local kreisleiter (ward leader) of the NSDAP namedXXXXXXX who held against Willimowski the 1933 transfer from the ethnically-German club 1. FC Kattowitz to the Polish Ruch Chorzów.[5] Allegedly, XXXXX threatened that Willimowski would have to wear the letter "P" (for Pole) on his clothes. This never happened, as Willimowski was too good a player and well appreciated by other German football officials. However, his mother Paulina, was placed in Auschwitz Concentration Camp, which she survived. Wilimowski's mother was incarcerated because she got engaged in an intimate relationship with a Russian Jew, which was regarded as Rassenschande in Nazi Germany. Ernst, who in later stages of the war became friends with legendary pilot Hermann Graf, managed to save her, with Graf's help.
8. Career during the War
In June 1941, Wilimowski first ran out for his new national team. Against Romania, he found the target twice, thus becoming the only man who scored both for and against Germany. He followed that performance with three goals against Finland in Helsinki on 5 October 1941 as the Germans scored an easy 6-0 win. Willimowski's most memorable performance for the German national side came on 18 October 1942 in Bern, Switzerland as the Germans defeated a well-respected Swiss national team by a score of 5-3. "Ezi" scored four of five goals with the other being netted by Fritz Walter.
Wilimowski was capped a total of eight times for Germany, scoring 13 goals (1.63 per match). His last appearance for Germany was in a 5-2 victory over Slovakia in Bratislava on 22 November 1942. After this match Germany no longer played international friendlies because of the war.
Post War Legacy...
Ernst Willimowski was a historic link between the Polish and the Germans, and the perfect symbol of the mindless destruction war can wreak on the common man who just wishes to go about his business. His dream was to become a professional footballer, but the truth is he underestimated his ability as he could have been one of the biggest names ever in the history of football had it not been for the war. Many players talk about how the war prevented many a career from reaching its peak but none suffered quite as much as Willimowski.
In the eyes of many Poles, he became a traitor. After the war, only a few people in Poland wanted to hear the reasons why he had worn the shirt with the Swastika. Under communist rule, he was blacklisted and his name erased from the record books.
A similar fate befell him in post war West Germany. He was too old to be seriously considered for the 1954 World Cup squad, and so Wilimowski did not become a "Hero of Berne", just an unwelcome reminder of a recent past many people wanted to forget quickly. To this day, nobody has scored more goals in a season of the German cup competition than Wilimowski (he netted 14 goals in 1942, when he won the trophy with 1860 Munich) and some books list him as having scored more than 1,000 goals during his career, a feat barely a handful of footballers can match. Yet few German fans have ever heard his name. He remains the only player to have both a goal against Germany (on September 9, 1934 at 2:5 in Warsaw) as well as scoring Germany (13 in 8 games).
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Downcast (Anders Emil Våge) 1. F. Puskás 2. B. Zebec 3. G. Popescu 4. B. Vukas 5. C. Dinu
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley 6. E. Wilimowski
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi 6. J. Skoblar
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan 6. F. Deak
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás 6. L. Novák
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan 6. Y. Letchkov
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić 6. M. Hamšík
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev 6. W. Lubanski
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner 5. L. Bölöni 6. H. Salihamidžić
@BorisDeLeFora
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley 6. E. Wilimowski
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi 6. J. Skoblar
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan 6. F. Deak
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás 6. L. Novák
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan 6. Y. Letchkov
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić 6. M. Hamšík
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev 6. W. Lubanski
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner 5. L. Bölöni 6. H. Salihamidžić
@BorisDeLeFora
Brilliant read, @Raees. Although I have to ask you to delete some of the eligible names from the text
Oh, and he is 10th most prolific scorer of all-time, not 11th - according to this table
http://www.rsssf.com/players/prolific.html
Oh, and he is 10th most prolific scorer of all-time, not 11th - according to this table
http://www.rsssf.com/players/prolific.html
Sorry mate oh and thanks, will edit that in.
Tbf, he did win the Copa America Player of the Tournament in 1945 and did feature in the Team of the Tournament for the 1938 WC, which is quite bizarre given how he'd given away 3 silly penalties in that tournament! Not quite sure how that happened and maybe the pool of defenders in that tournament wasn't so great or something (well David Luiz did make the TOTT in 2014 after all
). Brazilian centre-backs eh? Cue Anto
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Tbf, he did win the Copa America Player of the Tournament in 1945 and did feature in the Team of the Tournament for the 1938 WC, which is quite bizarre given how he'd given away 3 silly penalties in that tournament! Not quite sure how that happened and maybe the pool of defenders in that tournament wasn't so great or something (well David Luiz did make the TOTT in 2014 after all
Yeah, not to mention his club career which was outstanding too.
Never liked this prick, but he was a solid defender.
Downcast (Anders Emil Våge) 1. F. Puskás 2. B. Zebec 3. G. Popescu 4. B. Vukas 5. C. Dinu
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić 6. C. Chivu
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley 6. E. Wilimowski
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi 6. J. Skoblar
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan 6. F. Deak
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás 6. L. Novák
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan 6. Y. Letchkov
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić 6. M. Hamšík
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev 6. W. Lubanski
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner 5. L. Bölöni 6. H. Salihamidžić
@Šjor Bepo @Invictus
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić 6. C. Chivu
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley 6. E. Wilimowski
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi 6. J. Skoblar
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan 6. F. Deak
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás 6. L. Novák
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan 6. Y. Letchkov
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić 6. M. Hamšík
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev 6. W. Lubanski
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner 5. L. Bölöni 6. H. Salihamidžić
@Šjor Bepo @Invictus
Humm.
greensmiley is online, Moby is never far away.
Are Skizzo, Isotope, prath92 online?
greensmiley is online, Moby is never far away.
Are Skizzo, Isotope, prath92 online?
Hi there
Good to see a mix of modern and old Eastern European names on this draft.
Downcast (Anders Emil Våge) 1. F. Puskás 2. B. Zebec 3. G. Popescu 4. B. Vukas 5. C. Dinu
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu 6. F. Cherenkov
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić 6. C. Chivu
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley 6. E. Wilimowski
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi 6. J. Skoblar
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan 6. F. Deak
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás 6. L. Novák
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan 6. Y. Letchkov
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić 6. M. Hamšík
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev 6. W. Lubanski
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner 5. L. Bölöni 6. H. Salihamidžić
@prath92
Karol Dobias
Downcast (Anders Emil Våge) 1. F. Puskás 2. B. Zebec 3. G. Popescu 4. B. Vukas 5. C. Dinu
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev 6. K. Dobias
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu 6. F. Cherenkov
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić 6. C. Chivu
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley 6. E. Wilimowski
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi 6. J. Skoblar
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan 6. F. Deak
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás 6. L. Novák
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan 6. Y. Letchkov
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić 6. M. Hamšík
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev 6. W. Lubanski
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner 5. L. Bölöni 6. H. Salihamidžić
@Isotope
Moby 1. M. Sammer 2. E. Streltsov 3. D. Stojković 4. K. Balakov 5. R. Jarni
green_smiley 1. D. Džajić 2. Z. Boban 3. R. Lewandowski 4. N. Dobrin 5. B. Ivanović
Skizzo 1. P. Nedved 2. K. Deyna 3. J. Popluhár 4. V. Jugović 5. A. Kanchelskis
Isotope 1. H. Stoichkov 2. D. Savićević 3. J. Buzánszky 4. M. Đukić 5. M. Lantos
prath92 1. J. Bozsik 2. M. Sindelar 3. G. Lóránt 4. A. Puč 5. H. Bonev 6. K. Dobias
Šjor Bepo (Invictus) 1. N. Hidegkuti 2. N. Vidić 3. S. Pluskal 4. A. Ondruš 5. D. Petrescu 6. F. Cherenkov
BorisDeLeFora 1. S. Kocsis 2. L. Yashin 3. S. Sušić 4. M. Milutinović 5. B. Kostić 6. C. Chivu
Raees 1. J. Masopust 2. A. Shesternyov 3. A. Demyanenko 4. B. Stanković 5. O. Nejedley 6. E. Wilimowski
mazhar13 (oneniltothearsenal) 1. V. Vasović 2. M. Khurtsilava 3. B. Oblak 4. F. Jusufi 5. M. Meskhi 6. J. Skoblar
Tuppet 1. Z. Boniek 2. F. Albert 3. F. Bene 4. Z. Čajkovski 5. V. Muntyan 6. F. Deak
Enigma_87 1. L. Kubala 2. L. Modrić 3. D. Šuker 4. M. Belodedici 5. J. Zakariás 6. L. Novák
Pat_Mustard 1. Z. Czibor 2. G. Sárosi 3. W. Zmuda 4. V. Kolotov 5. H. Mkhitaryan 6. Y. Letchkov
RedTiger (2mufc0) 1. G. Hagi 2. A. Shevchenko 3. S. Mihajlović 4. D. Stanković 5. D. Šimić 6. M. Hamšík
Gio (Theon) 1. O. Blokhin 2. V. Voronin 3. V. Bezsonov (Bessonov) 4. D. Šekularac 5. E. Lovchev 6. W. Lubanski
Jayvin 1. G. Lato 2. I. Netto 3. S. Bobek 4. H-J. Dörner 5. L. Bölöni 6. H. Salihamidžić
@Isotope
Heading to bed, anyone around for my picks?
@harms has my next two picks.