Where's that gif of kermit holding himself in the bathtub. That's me right now.
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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Seems clear he's after the job here, i'm not worried about other job opportunities opening to him, the only question is simply if our fumblingbumbling board will sack LvG and actually offer it to him.
If they havent offered it to him yet then they wont. So hopefully they have
You criticise people for making assumptions but you are making an assumption that the board have not already made the decision.
My guess is that it's been decided some time ago because it seems so obvious. If Mourinho isn't our manager by June, then I will be flabbergasted, my gast will be well and truly flabbered.
Everton....dude, seriously.
This is one of the top 3 best managers in the World.
Moyes is Everton standard.
Mourinho will want to win the CL, within 3 years, with his next team and its not going to be Everton.
He probably means in case Everton get that giant injection of cash from new investors.
I think no 4th place will be the end of LvG. I really think Woodward was reluctant to let LvG before the end of his 3 year plan because I'd imagine Woodward sold this plan to the Board and he'll see this failure, plus the money spent, as a failure associated directly with him.
I'd think 4th place and an FA cup victory would have been sold by Woodward as enough to keep LvG in the job. So Woodward was never going to fire LvG after 18 months (December's form), let alone his reluctance to do it after 2 years. No UCL will force his hand though, IMO.
I also think we have some sort of "retainer" agreement with Mourinho, which is Woodwards contingency plan should top 4 not be achieved. It also explains why we've been so silent about everything. If LvG was really going to be given a 3rd year (irrespective of top 4), it'd just been easier for the club to confirm as much and "stabilise" the club.
I'd think 4th place and an FA cup victory would have been sold by Woodward as enough to keep LvG in the job. So Woodward was never going to fire LvG after 18 months (December's form), let alone his reluctance to do it after 2 years. No UCL will force his hand though, IMO.
I also think we have some sort of "retainer" agreement with Mourinho, which is Woodwards contingency plan should top 4 not be achieved. It also explains why we've been so silent about everything. If LvG was really going to be given a 3rd year (irrespective of top 4), it'd just been easier for the club to confirm as much and "stabilise" the club.
You can see United winning the CL in the next 3 years? That's 2 years max, given we wont even be in it next year.
That Mexico article sort of deals with a lot, no? Scouting over players - he's been doing it all season, so the whole 'no Renato Sanches because he isn't coming' seems blown out of proportion, and it's normally for van Gaal to be dealing with a lot of the preseason stuff. Encouraging signs at least.
Indeed. Look at the hassle the petro-clubs like City and PSG are having or have had breaking through. In a year's time we will have almost no players who have been at the club when we were doing anything of note in Europe. So that residual experience, or almost DNA of success in Europe can't be assumed. I think it's just as likely we'll need 3-5 years of making quarters/semis etc before we can really consider ourselves in that bracket. Of course, the best team doesn't always win the CL, so we could sneak one, but the odds would be very much against us.
Well he'd be scouting players irresepective of what club he joins. So him scouting in the summer doesn't support links to our club specifically.
Jose Mourinho has confirmed that he will return to management in July, but remained coy on Manchester United speculation.
Mourinho has been linked with the United job since the dawn of time, with current managerial incumbent Louis van Gaal under increasing pressure at Old Trafford.
The Dutchman has guided his side to the FA Cup final, but Champions League qualification is out of the club’s hands heading into the final day.
Manchester City currently occupy the all-important fourth spot, and they face a trip to Swansea on the final day. They enjoy a two-point gap over United, who host Bournemouth.
When asked about the Manchester United job, Mourinho replied: “I don’t know. I know nothing about it really. I don’t have a club.
“In July, I will be back. So we are in May. May to July is nothing. I keep enjoying my life which I’m doing, keep enjoying my family. But in July I am back.
“It’s difficult because when you get a new club in this period normally the clubs have already done their work.
“I give you an example. I’m not the Chelsea manager, but I organised the Chelsea pre-season in many aspects because I did that 10 months ago.
“Clubs have their commercial, marketing departments always involved in everything. When a new manager arrives in May, June it’s very difficult to touch in some points, but we know that.”
Mourinho has been linked with the United job since the dawn of time, with current managerial incumbent Louis van Gaal under increasing pressure at Old Trafford.
The Dutchman has guided his side to the FA Cup final, but Champions League qualification is out of the club’s hands heading into the final day.
Manchester City currently occupy the all-important fourth spot, and they face a trip to Swansea on the final day. They enjoy a two-point gap over United, who host Bournemouth.
When asked about the Manchester United job, Mourinho replied: “I don’t know. I know nothing about it really. I don’t have a club.
“In July, I will be back. So we are in May. May to July is nothing. I keep enjoying my life which I’m doing, keep enjoying my family. But in July I am back.
“It’s difficult because when you get a new club in this period normally the clubs have already done their work.
“I give you an example. I’m not the Chelsea manager, but I organised the Chelsea pre-season in many aspects because I did that 10 months ago.
“Clubs have their commercial, marketing departments always involved in everything. When a new manager arrives in May, June it’s very difficult to touch in some points, but we know that.”
What do you think would happen, that LvG's future will be clarified before the FA Cup final? Or they will wait until afterwards to ensure that they concentrate on the final? Then the problem is that they would be seen to be sacking a manager who has just won the FA Cup. Bit of a sour victory parade then...
Getting to the FA Cup final will save LvG IMO. Unless they somehow lose it, which I can't see
Mourinho can only say he doesn't know even if there is a deal in place if LVG is in charge til the end of the season, anything else would be unprofessional and disrespectful to a fellow manager.
If anything, the fact he doesn't flat out deny it points to the idea that he's coming or at least in talks.
If anything, the fact he doesn't flat out deny it points to the idea that he's coming or at least in talks.
He is also certain he will be working in July
It could well be LCB, but Woodward will have a lot of convincing to do, to not only sponsors, but the owners as well.
As much of a notable trophy a FA cup win is, I can't see how it outweighs not achieving top 4, because that's where the commercial benefit lies. It is also where or how progress would have been measured, IMO. I think we're all obviously just guesstimating it a bit. But if LvG's position was really quite safe, surely United would have squashed rumors a long time ago. Doing what City did de-stabilised them for sure, but surely also not doing anything, especially when the rumors were that intense, also has a de-stabilising affect.
I think an FA cup victory could actually spin the whole story into a "win-win" for both parties. United and LvG announce that they have come to a mutual agreement to part ways. We thank him for his work done over the 2 years, culminating in our first FA cup in 12 (?) years. LvG says he wants to retire a year earlier and off he goes into the Portuguese sunset as a "champion"...in his head at least.
Anyone completely dismissing the Valencia job needs to remember who owns that club and which agent does a lot of work with them.
So as far as I can work out he is wanting to stay in England.
He cant go to Man City because Pep starts there next season.
He cant go to Liverpool because they are happy with Klopp.
He cant go to Chelsea because they just sacked him and have next season sorted out.
He cant go to Spurs because they love Poch
I cant see him taking over from Wenger at Arsenal.
So who does that leave who would fit his ambitions of winning the Champions league again?
So to me its either us or he is off to another league elsewhere.
He cant go to Man City because Pep starts there next season.
He cant go to Liverpool because they are happy with Klopp.
He cant go to Chelsea because they just sacked him and have next season sorted out.
He cant go to Spurs because they love Poch
I cant see him taking over from Wenger at Arsenal.
So who does that leave who would fit his ambitions of winning the Champions league again?
So to me its either us or he is off to another league elsewhere.
Well he isn't going to Barca or Real (They will keep Zidane)
Blanc is staying at PSG
Juve will keep Allergi, Inter director says he isn't coming, Mourinho said he isn't going to Inter
Soo..... AC Milan?
Why would he reject PSG and Inter to sign such a long term contract at Valencia. Absolute bullshit story.
I am 100% convinced he is ours. He's got a club to go to in July and who else is that going to be?
He then basically confirms that yes, Van Gaal is indeed organising the preseason, but that's to be expected.
I'll bet £100 with anyone who thinks otherwise. Our manager by August 1st.
PSG and Inter are lesser leagues with worse owners, presumably.
That's easy for you to say, you lovable bastard! We are counting seconds here
That's easy for you to say, you lovable bastard! We are counting seconds here
We're dying here more like
I like how I'm not the only one desperate for him to come. I'm like a hysteric housewife.
Who gives a damn about Valencia or La Liga? I care only about MUFC.
Valencia can go get themselves another manager.
We need an elite level manager to replace SAF, which we have not had yet.
GO ON, PEX MY SAAAN! GET IN!
Not sure anyone will take that bet. You are asking for even money, when the best you can get from a bookie is 1/4
I wouldn't be able to bet money with you, but I'll bet Mourinho won't be the United manager on August 1st. And if you lose, you have to end every post you make in August with a poem about how much you love cottage cheese
Given people evidently post a lot on La Liga here, and enjoy football in general, people obviously are interested in other leagues too and, hence, comment on it.
I didn't I say want him to go to Valencia.
Terrible.
Now with Poch signing a 5-year contract, he's 100% out of the picture. It has to be Mou. Has to.
It doesn't have to at all - it should - but our recent track history of decision making hasn't exactly set the world alight.
Weren't you convinced Vidal was coming not too long ago?
Out of the 339 'no' ones, those who were rooting for Poch should 'convert' to Mou now.
He'll want to manage a club, where he has a "chance" to win the CL (eg. Inter, Porto).
And yes, in his 3rd year, it is totally reasonable to expect him to have a serious attempt at at least getting to the SF of the CL (with MUFC).
Everton probably won't win the CL in Jose's lifetime.
To even mention them in the same sentence offends me.
Our fans need to remember that MUFC is one of the biggest clubs in the World. I realise fans have reduced their expectations, but we should expect a big name manager to attempt to win us the biggest trophies on the planet...NOT 4TH PLACE!
LVG is marginally better than Moyes (who was an unmitigated disaster) and should be embarrassed to even suggest that he is attempting to get 4th place...if he is lucky.
Why the feck is it so difficult for so many that insist on filming videos on their phones to turn the damn thing landscape?!! Seriously!! They must've seen portrait videos posted online by now and seen how shite they look. Landscape the damn video ffs!!
I think this Jose uncertainty is starting to takes it toll on me...
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