The meltdown at Juventuz is amazing,they were still convinced that Guardiola will be their new coach 
BBC: Chelsea agree deal for Sarri to join Juventus
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Allegri probably got bored too and it looks like he’s taking a year out. It was right time for him to leave with his stock high and he’d get a big job in the premier league next. Nobody wants to be the manager who has lost the league with Juve after their dominance. It could happen if Inter sort themselves out especially now they got Conte. He’s left at the right time for me.
Jose to the rescue for Chelsea, wins PL and then finishing 9th. After that Guus Hiddink to the rescue until a new name appears and becomes a sensation in world of football, which will be the next manager.
Repeat the process.
Repeat the process.
The meltdown at Juventuz is amazing,they were still convinced that Guardiola will be their new coach
It's the Napoli fans who are fuming the most.
They’ll play better football. Juve were depressing to watch this season, the amount of games they grinded out was ridiculous.
I agree it’s going to be tougher to win the CL with Sarri than with Allegri but it was time for Allegri to go and there really weren’t any better options than Sarri available.
I'm going to really go out on a limb and say that an ex-Chelsea manager will win the league in Italy next season.
By 2040 they reckon you'll be no more than 6 foot away from an ex-Chelsea manager.
And no more than 12 foot away from a Chelsea trophy. It'll accept that.
I can't see Allegri landing a big job in the EPL. City and Liverpool wouldn't touch him with a bargepole. Utd have tried with the dour, pragmatic approach and look where that got them. Arsenal and Spurs like to play nice footie. He would fit Chelsea in previous era's, but i think even they recognise the game has moved on and just grinding out results week in week out will have a snowball in hells chance of competing with City and Liverpool. He might be able to grind his way to 3rd, but who wants that? A Newcastle or Everton will be as big a job as he'll be offered in England.
If Guardiola wins the CL next season he'll be off to Juve.
Welcome Sarriball. Hope you gain more than Conte and Allegri and win us the UCL. I know a lot of juve fans don’t like Sarri because of his history with Napoli but what the haters can do about it now. Nothing.
Good luck Sarri.
Good luck Sarri.
Actually he fell out with at last two players per season throughout his career and this year most of the team wanted him out.
Plus his Juve was the ugliest team to ever play football and even the board started to look utterly disappointed during games
Chelsea thrive on chaos. Watch them win the league next season.
Juventus have a good squad. I look forward to seeing if Sarri can get then playing some football. Under Allegri the times I watched them recently they were painful to watch.
Sarri there to pave the way for Pep in a few years?
Sarri Happy / Chelsea Happy. It all worked out.
Now we need new manager and I don't think it'll be Lampard, yet.
Sarri Happy / Chelsea Happy. It all worked out.
Now we need new manager and I don't think it'll be Lampard, yet.
Absolutely spot on. I have been preaching that we need to have bigger ambitions than we currently do.
Exactly what I thought. And Sarri is not Pellegrini, who has no clue about positional football as well. On the contrary Sarri is following the rules of positional play even more strictly than Pep so in 2 years time Juve will be very different team than now due to Sarri's transfers, coaching and methodology.. A team ready to be coached by Guardiola
As for Chelsea - if not Lampard what about Ralf Rangnick ?
No chance if the transfer ban is upheld.
In that case a 6th place would be a success for us. Do not see Man Utd performing worse thant that.
I would be okay with that. Rangnick is probably the only Bundesliga manager (from the current crop) that could survive at Chelsea. He would take the job if offered to him. The man loves England.
Inter 19-20 champions?
Exactly what I thought. And Sarri is not Pellegrini, who has no clue about positional football as well. On the contrary Sarri is following the rules of positional play even more strictly than Pep so in 2 years time Juve will be very different team than now due to Sarri's transfers, coaching and methodology.. A team ready to be coached by Guardiola
As for Chelsea - if not Lampard what about Ralf Rangnick ?
Why not?
Lot of managers won't take the job, with Hazard leaving and the ban meaning no transfers this season. Going to be even more difficult than usual. Big risk Lampard or similar would flop spectacularly. I think it'll be Rafa on 12 month deal, available free at end of the month. CL football for him. One of best results grinder in the business for us. Lots of fans will hate it but Mr A won't give.
There's zero chance Rafa gets the job. Lampard is a done deal.
Glad for Sarri.
A good coach who had a thankless job at Chelsea
A good coach who had a thankless job at Chelsea
Hopefully. A change would be nice.
I think if Chelsea finish ahead of utd this season it will be because of United's incompetence instead of Chelsea's brilliance.
Jose is going back! And bitches and moans he can't get players he wants. Then he buys Lukaku and Matic and Lingard, comes to Old Trafford and gets standing ovations for that only.
Replaced, somehow it wasn't same.
Jose was praised and got time when we won Europa league and finished 6th. Jose was sacked when he was competing with Bournemouth and others after half a season and this was after giving him 2.5 seasons
I'd say Sarri's reign is similar to LvG's 1st season. Resultswise hit the target (4th for LvG, 3rd + Trophy for Sarri), but clearly there were deeper problems, the dull football with hints of "philosophy". Chelsea are of course smarter than us.
Were you honestly thinking that way when you had SAF in charge? Everyone outside of Chelsea used to sneer and ridicule the club for their ruthless hiring and firing of managers. Even though it's somehow worked for Chelsea, it's not a formula for success other clubs should follow. What Liverpool did with Klopp is the far more sensible way. But would Utd and their fans wait for years for it to work? Going by what's happened since Fergie retired, it looks unlikely.
You were lucky to hire managers like Mourinho, Ancelotti and Conte at the peak of their powers. Sarri was a bit lucky in the league as well considering how ourselves and Arsenal imploded. These managers left good squads for their successors.
The flip side is our track record, when we continually hire out of date or crap managers who progressively contribute to the worsening of the squad. So I wouldn't say Chelsea have a smart policy, its' more down to dumb luck and maybe just a little more thought in managerial recruitments compared to us. Agreed that Liverpool's model works best.
You think what Liverpool did with Klopp was blind hope and faith in time? They had Jurgen fecking Klopp.
The guy reached 2 Cup finals in his first 3/4 of a season without signing a single player. By his second season he'd made them a top 4 team. 3rd season they were champions League finalists, and had ended Man City's undefeated streak and knocked them out of the CL.
The only questionable season they had was his second one, and even then he reached his minimum target of a CL spot. Sticking blindly with Moyes, LVG and Mourinho would've been utterly stupid when they kept on missing their minimum target or weren't showing any hope of progress.
Talented people don't need time to show their ability. They need time to realise and maximise their potential, but if you're good it's going to show. By the way, Sir Alex Ferguson got 2nd in his first full season at United. The same club he took over in 17th in November, the season before. Matt Busby finished 2nd in his first 3 full seasons at the club.
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LGV and Jose won you trophies and got CL, but that wasn't close to buying them time. And no, of course it wasn't blind hope and faith with Klopp. It was clearly going to be a longterm plan (long by todays terms) where they brought in a manager who played a certain way. Regardless of immediate success, they were going to give him time get the team playing his way and get the fitness levels up to playing that way. Find exactly the right players to sign and then add the final ingrediants of big money, game changing signings. At the end of the day, it's taken Klopp years longer than LVG and Jose to win a trophy, and unless you start putting a plan in place and give a manager time, then you'll remain a club scratching for a CL place. You'll become the new Arsenal, and i'm sure none of you want that!
At the cost of dreadful football. And in the case of Mourinho a permanent toxicity around the club, that we're struggling to even remove now.
Klopps long term record at Dortmund is what made Liverpool believe in him. Mourinho and Louis Van Gaal have a record of shitting the bed no matter what, after a couple of years
At least he'll already have Perisic
You knew what you were going to get with Jose - shite football and the tiresome circus that you get with him in charge. Everything ends up being about him, and unless he delivers the title or CL, he is simply never worth having as a manager! He was always a terrible fit for Utd, and some people at the club always knew that, so it smacked of desperation and cluttered thinking
Do you think he’s ready? I think he would be crazy to take the job, I can see what he would but it would be his heart making the choice rather than his head.
Although the Chelsea job comes up almost every year who is to say Lampard himself might not have a disastrous season at Derby and never get the opportunity again?
II'd take it if offered!
True, he might also be thinking that taking the job at the hardest possible time, with transfer ban, without Hazard and when he's probably going to have to entirely change the style of play (unless Lampard Ball?), when he's never managed a single game in a top league, is not a good idea.
Plus if he's not good enough for Derby he'd be unlikely to make a 2nd season with Chelsea, so hardly missing the opportunity.
We'll see what happens this week I guess.
Edit: It worked for Madrid with Zidane, which at the time also looked pretty crazy given he never did anything with Castilla. So maybe Lampard will be lifting the CL at the end of the season. Football is a crazy sport sometimes..
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