Bastian Schweinsteiger | Signed for MUFC - confirmed.
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I agree, blind faith doesn't help anyone - we saw that with Falcao. I don't think that's applicable in this scenario though. Most people recognise he's getting on a bit and isn't quite in top form, but even if we had 4 seasons of Schweinsteiger in last season's form and condition (playing over half the games) he'd be a significant improvement on Blind and Fellaini and offer as much over the course of the season as Carrick, Herrera and Schneiderlin IMO. We've already seen how an aging crock who understands van Gaal's methods and has the ability and intelligence to implement his strategy (Carrick) can play a pivotal role in our season, so if our worst case scenario is he has a season like Carrick's last year then I'm not too worried.
I've no time for facts, chief - I'm from Wales.
@Blackwidow we need updates from the press conference!
My final post to answer you, you have too much alerts as it is.
Carrick is 34 so even if his injury record is not poor he wont be able to play as many games as he used to.
Schweinsteiger can jump in instead of him and he can play nr. 8 thus enabling Herrera to play nr. 10 which suits him the best imo.
Right team is a mix of developing young players, buying young or 25-ish players and sometimes 30+ players.
You act as if we only do the last thing which we obviously dont.
We have got rid of the dross in our team or players who wont cope anymore, bought teenagers and young players (25-ish and younger), filled the positions which are in crisis and will do it some more in this TW.
I think everyone recognizes the risks involved, but that doesn't mean one can't consider this a good decision by the club/management. Risks are a part of running a football club/business.
I don't look at the Caf for about 12 hours and we're signing the pig mounter all of a sudden?
I need to know more.
I need to know more.
If we are going with "what we want" then I wanted us to give Pogba some gametime and/or address the midfield problem five years ago. I dont see the sense in taking a decent homegrown player who could hold down a place in our squad, and letting their contract run out so that we cant even sell them. Cleverley was at one point highly rated, he and Anderson (
) started to form what looked like quite a promising partnership in midfield at one stage. Exactly how and why Cleverley apparently declined I am not sure, although I do have a theory that Cleverley would have looked a lot better had we bought someone decent to play alongside him and/or stopped playing a two-man midfield/4-4-2.Cleverley is however of all the players I mentioned, the one where it can fairly be argued that he simply didnt make the grade despite getting a decent amount of gametime, and I am not going to dispute that.
Apologies, so I did
I already addressed the 1 vs 3 year comparison so Falcao was £24m for a season whereas Bastian will be £20m. Rounding off to the nearest figures.
Again, age and injuries involved I can understand why some are sceptical. The ideal scenario is we also sign Schneiderlin too.
I understand the interrogations but their hammering is tiring. I have watched him regularly and he is better than all our midfielders, he doesn't have niggling injuries, he is strong physically and he isn't a Bayern reject.
Guardiola 'refuses' to play him in his best position which is as the deepest midfielder, I saw the problem coming but thought that a solution would be found and apparently they didn't found one.
Apologies looking at the numbers again, looks about £150k per week for Schweiny. Never been the best at maths!
I've just won £10million on the lottery, it's going to change my life and I can buy anything I wantor
I've just won £10million on the lottery, should have been £20m - but I'm going to waste it on rubbish or someone's going to steal it anyway and I'll be in the gutter in no timeWhich category are you?
Yeah.. It's not even just the spanish internationals who are tempted, as Bale, Modric and Suarez have shown..
In that case we agree on Cleverley.If we are going with "what we want" then I wanted us to give Pogba some gametime and/or address the midfield problem five years ago. I dont see the sense in taking a decent homegrown player who could hold down a place in our squad, and letting their contract run out so that we cant even sell them. Cleverley was at one point highly rated, he and Anderson (
Cleverley is however of all the players I mentioned, the one where it can fairly be argued that he simply didnt make the grade despite getting a decent amount of gametime, and I am not going to dispute that.
At the end of the day we stuck by Cleverley, we stuck by Anderson. It was theirs to lose and they lost it (the place in the side not their minds).
If anything, this strengthening process should have started earlier. But I do agree on Pogba of course.
Thats a great picture.
To keep it brief, my basic arguments/opinions/responses to your points are;
- Carrick does not rely on his physical attributes (definitely not as much as Schweinsteiger), so I have no doubt that he can continue at the top level for at least another couple of years.
- Herrera is better as a #8 than a #10 for me (and a good #8 is much harder to find as well).
- I agree with buying a 30+ player as short term solution to an area of the team that urgently needs addressing - like our midfield a few years ago. I dont think our midfield's current state falls into that category with Herrera, Fellaini, Blind and hopefully Schneiderlin all here/coming soon.
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Which category are you?
I just won £10m, I don't want anything but now I have enough money to never worry.
Press conf starting shortly, apparently.
What a pic!!
Another thing some people seem to forget is we have lots of players in the current squad with zero or limited champions league experience. Yet some are still against this signing. Baffling.
Press conference started and they said they first make the presentation of the new players and then Rummenigge is there to talk about the actual topic...
Don't you think Schweinsteiger is better than Schneiderlin ever will be, though?
Imagine the meltdown if he comes out and starts talking about next season with Bayern, before signing a new contract in front of everyone on quadruple the wage and saying he used us to get more money.
Getting a bit sick of the people complaining about the people complaining about this signing now.
While I'm not comparing all to the level of experience Schweinsteiger has had in Europe, off the top of my head I'm guessing we have around 15 or so players who have played in the Champions League.
Bah, he's so old that he's in black & white.
He looks good in red
That's a good point, anyone against this signing is probably just not thinking straight though to be honest, it's Bastain Schweinsteiger for gods sake I still can't believe it's happening. I hope we get Schneiderlin too though, our midfield will be fantastic next season and a massive improvement on what we've had to put up with for so long. Also, I really can't believe he's going to be the first German here, that's pretty mental to think we've never had one.
He looks good in red
But not in Nike. Adidas like this has on of its poster boys at United.
That lasted for four games, in which we were quite weak defensively and in fact Ando was the better of two.If we are going with "what we want" then I wanted us to give Pogba some gametime and/or address the midfield problem five years ago. I dont see the sense in taking a decent homegrown player who could hold down a place in our squad, and letting their contract run out so that we cant even sell them. Cleverley was at one point highly rated, he and Anderson (
Cleverley is however of all the players I mentioned, the one where it can fairly be argued that he simply didnt make the grade despite getting a decent amount of gametime, and I am not going to dispute that.
Perhaps, but I would say that unless you have players of the calibre of Scholes/Keane then in a two man midfield in a 4-4-2 it is hard for them to really excel. Schweinsteiger a few years ago would have been one of the few who could though.
Yep. In fact he did that for many years for Bayern.
Schweinsteiger is still a much better player than Schneiderlin. If he can stay injury free he'll be our best midfielder. If not, we'll see. But for 20m EUR it is a very good transfer. Obviously, it isn't guaranteed that it will work but no transfer is.
Very much hope it goes through. I think he'd be an excellent signing.
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