Just read the second part of his interview on the United website, what a fecking classy guy. Just so.. 
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Was a bit sloppy and ordinary today. Also looked slow.
Guess lack of fitness showing as he hasn't had any training yet.
Guess lack of fitness showing as he hasn't had any training yet.
Not much to say really. Got a bit sloppy near the end.
We've yet to see the 'fecking' in Bastian fecking Schweinsteiger, I really want to see him with actual first team players ahead of him.
We've yet to see the 'fecking' in Bastian fecking Schweinsteiger, I really want to see him with actual first team players ahead of him.
Sloppy? Did he have more than one incomplete pass?
he was solid... He was nearly the only one who looked up and tried to move forward. Today's passing in the second half reminded me of the zombie days under Moyes.
he was solid... He was nearly the only one who looked up and tried to move forward. Today's passing in the second half reminded me of the zombie days under Moyes.
He was gash today. Way off the pace.
Him and schneiderlin today were a bit average really, though schweinsteiger got better as the half wore on.
Herrera and Carrick a class above the other midfielders today. Funny as on Friday it was the opposite if anything.
Herrera and Carrick a class above the other midfielders today. Funny as on Friday it was the opposite if anything.
He had one sloppy cross field pass at the end. Lack of movement in front was a problem for him and the CB's.
Obviously feeling the strain of pre-season. Played this one out at walking pace.
Time to get him in the first (half) team. Seeing LVG called him bad. Couple of misplaced passes but looks so comfortable. Be good to see him with the better/more experienced team.
He was quite poor today. He had good ideas and intentions turbulent follow up on them. It doses not really bother me though.
LvG called him bad, but I felt he was more protective rather than criticism saying it is hard to adjust to a new team plus he had a lot of traininghours in his legs.
Just not seeing anything with him at the moment. Looked slow and a little heavy. Early days but remain cautious.
He looks really unfit. Tidy passing as you'd expect but he could definitely do with losing a few pounds.
This is what preseason is for fellas.
He started training later then the others and has so far played 90 minutes for us. First thing he needs to do is get fit.
Refreshing to see the honesty in here. Looked really casual today. Had to have a chuckle at LvGs: “He was also bad" comment! I didn't see him say it so I'm probably imagining it being more brutal than it really was.
You cannot possibly expect a player who wasn't even with us two weeks ago and has hardly been training this pre-season to jump into a new team and settle immediately. His class cannot be in any doubt.
He's got a fatter arse than Luke Shaw.
Always find it odd, people watching games & focusing on the physical attributes of blokes. If that's all you come away with, what a simplistic view of the world you have
It just means there's more of him to love.Always find it odd, people watching games & focusing on the physical attributes of blokes. If that's all you come away with, what a simplistic view of the world you have
First off, a world class World Cup winner plus many titles under his belt does not turn mediocre overnight! (Caveat: Admittedly I have always been Basti's big admirer)
This morning I've watched his so called "bad" performance. You can't really say he's bad when most of second half was played like a reserved team as a whole.
I suspect it has something to do with coaching. Players looked like they're not really confident enough to press ahead. Why not?
How can he be blamed?!
Secondly, let see how he fares when he actually plays with our A team. It's quite odd why he was not tried in this second match in first half with different combination ahead of the barca match this weekend. I would not doubt his ability and positive influence if he's put to good use and is match fit
My thought exactly. If these's anything wrong with him, I would sort out how the coaching staff can help him integrate and be fit for matches.
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He does look heavy, to be fair. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets put on a fitness program for a few weeks/months before LvG starts playing him from the start of matches.
Always find it odd, people watching games & focusing on the physical attributes of blokes. If that's all you come away with, what a simplistic view of the world you have
Are you, like, looking for something to take offence at or something? Sweet Jesus, he commented yer man had a fat arse. So what? He does. It's just an observation. Move on.
Ugh, why am I even replying to this tripe
SELL HIM!
They're already creeping out of the woodwork.
They're already creeping out of the woodwork.
I'd rather have this sort of preseason, with a few shit performances, players huffing and puffing....then bang! Hit the ground running at the start of the EPL.
Last year it felt different. We cruised through preseason, players looked good, but we really struggled in the EPL. I know, a ton of the feel good factor had to do with Moyes being gone as well
But yeah, rather pick up on the form/fitness/tactical issues now, then later. As amol said, Tis exactly what preseason is for.
Last year it felt different. We cruised through preseason, players looked good, but we really struggled in the EPL. I know, a ton of the feel good factor had to do with Moyes being gone as well
But yeah, rather pick up on the form/fitness/tactical issues now, then later. As amol said, Tis exactly what preseason is for.
Correct me if I am wrong, in the past, preseason was just preseason. It's a warm up and has not a lot to do with the proper season because players mostly came back from holiday with tans and the oppositions were almost always not strong competitors but we almost always won (even the oppositions were all match fit as they were in middle of their season. It was how strong United were. Preseason US tour was a chance to gain some fitness and getting to use the American top facilities, socialising, meeting American fans, doing some advertising dirties and charities. Then when they are back home, it's business as usual to win games week in and week out.I'd rather have this sort of preseason, with a few shit performances, players huffing and puffing....then bang! Hit the ground running at the start of the EPL.
Last year it felt different. We cruised through preseason, players looked good, but we really struggled in the EPL. I know, a ton of the feel good factor had to do with Moyes being gone as well
But yeah, rather pick up on the form/fitness/tactical issues now, then later. As amol said, Tis exactly what preseason is for.
I have been to those games before. Players were playing so freely and enjoying themselves. (We won against Celtic btw)
Nowadays, these preseason is like interviewing sessions, or auditioning, whereby players can look nervous at times.
You're wrong.
The only meaningful difference between this and previous pre-season tours is the fact that it's shorter.
For the record, we've frequently been beaten on pre-season tours in the past.
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And that's okay! Winning in preseason was not important. We've won when it mattered.
People keep reading too much into results in pre-season. Fitness is what matters. A good start to the season is what matters the most.
Sort of like Chelsea last year they were pretty shite in pre seasonI'd rather have this sort of preseason, with a few shit performances, players huffing and puffing....then bang! Hit the ground running at the start of the EPL.
Last year it felt different. We cruised through preseason, players looked good, but we really struggled in the EPL. I know, a ton of the feel good factor had to do with Moyes being gone as well
But yeah, rather pick up on the form/fitness/tactical issues now, then later. As amol said, Tis exactly what preseason is for.
Was good last night. The only player not giving the ball away. No idea what you lot are on about.
Not sure how anyone can criticise him? Just did the right thing every time he had the ball. All about fitness in pre season. People need to stop reading so much into every touch each player has in meaningless games.
Not sure how anyone can criticise him? Just did the right thing every time he had the ball. All about fitness in pre season. People need to stop reading so much into every touch each player has in meaningless games.
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He doesn't just look fat to me, he also looks old. Disturbing.
Yeah! Let's try and experiment, get fit etc during pre season! But when the EPL starts....hit the ground running
There is nothing to worry about. He started training last Tuesday.
Of course not but the Caf really likes to moan and act like a bunch of teenage drama queens
he gave it away plenty
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/too-early-to-be-getting-worried.405538/page-20#post-17759713
Kept saying this in the "Too early to be getting worried?" thread. I'm not convinced of the wisdom of buying a player who has achieved everything possible at a club where he is a legend, then coming here at 30 years of age for a "new challenge". Can't question his ability, but will the motivation to succeed in a tough league like the EPL be there knowing he has a loving home he can go back to at anytime.
I know! Some people in this place are mad.
I just got back from a one week, all-inclusive holiday. I went for an 8k run today and did an average of 6.20 per kilometre, a whole minute and 10 seconds slower than my usual. For those of you that don't know, that's slow as shit compared to my normal time. But feck it, I had one week off and now I'm finished, might as well never run again. Caf logic.
He's played ninety minutes of pre-season football and people are already worried?
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