[Balu]

No need to be angry.

I'm not angry? Got nothing to do with Schweini, I've mentioned a few times in the past that I find the obsession on the Caf about how big a club United is ridiculous.

Schweini can't do no wrong for me, I'm happy for him and hope he does well, no matter what he says in a United press conference. And I have no problem admitting that United have a much much bigger following in the US than Bayern, it's just how it is.

 

[Balu]

Do you post on Rawk or Real Madrid forums?

No. I've read on Rawk and Bluemoon for a while but stopped because of the vile nature of so many posts on both boards. I wasn't interested at all to engage in discussions there, I loved the Caf from the moment I found it though and prefer it to all German football forums. I don't speak Spanish, so can't really read Real Madrid forums (and I'm not really interested in reading German or English Real Madrid forums), but then, why would Real Madrid fans obsess over how big a club they are? They're the biggest, it's really easy for them.

Bayern boards are almost as annoying in that regard as the Caf by the way (and much worse with a lot of other stuff).

 

[amolbhatia50k]

No. I've read on Rawk and Bluemoon for a while but stopped because of the vile nature of so many posts on both boards. I wasn't interested at all to engage in discussions there, I loved the Caf from the moment I found it though and prefer it to all German football forums. I don't speak Spanish, so can't really read Real Madrid forums (and I'm not really interested in reading German or English Real Madrid forums), but then, why would Real Madrid fans obsess over how big a club they are? They're the biggest, it's really easy for them.

Bayern boards are almost as annoying in that regard as the Caf by the way (and much worse with a lot of other stuff).

Then it seems it's no different and your post was a bit of an overreaction. Madrid fans boo and whistle at their players and I'm sure they go on about being the biggest, legitimately or not. Liverpool fans have a greater feeling of self importance from what I can make out than any. Their own opinion of their support and uniqueness is in itself unique. So it's a bit odd that you find United fans going on about that so strange, as it's not really anything but the norm. Fans out big clubs tend to be proud of their club being big.

 

[Mockney]

I cringe when new signings or staff refer to us as the biggest club in the world. We're the biggest commercial entity, but that's a slightly different thing to being the actual, biggest club in football (which is Real) and it seems slightly disingenuous to over-egg the point, knowing full well that's the caveat.

 

[Balu]

Then it seems it's no different and your post was a bit of an overreaction. Madrid fans boo and whistle at their players and I'm sure they go on about being the biggest, legitimately or not. Liverpool fans have a greater feeling of self importance from what I can make out than any. Their own opinion of their support and uniqueness is in itself unique. So it's a bit odd that you find United fans going on about that so strange, as it's not really anything but the norm. Fans out big clubs tend to be proud of their club being big.

So you agree that United fans certainly don't need to be reminded of how big a club they are?

 

[Pogue Mahone]

So you agree that United fans certainly don't need to be reminded of how big a club they are?

There's only been two people talking about how big a club United is on the last two pages of this thread, you and Bastian Schweinsteiger.

EDIT: oh and mockney too. Although he's playing down United's status.

 

[JPRouve]

So you agree that United fans certainly don't need to be reminded of how big a club they are?

The outrage is quite funny when you post that United isn't exactly the biggest the club.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

So you agree that United fans certainly don't need to be reminded of how big a club they are?

Not the part I'm arguing.

This is:

I don't think any other fanbase is as obsessed with being a big club or the biggest club or whatever as the United fans on the Caf are. It's hilarious.

Other fans of big clubs have the same elements. You just said the bayern forum can be just as bad if not worse. And Rawk is horrible. I don't think this place is some new level of bad in this regard.

I cringe when new signings or staff refer to us as the biggest club in the world. We're the biggest commercial entity, but that's a slightly different thing to being the actual, biggest club in football (which is Real) and it seems slightly disingenuous to over-egg the point, knowing full well that's the caveat.

This amuses me. It's so obviously a line you just have to say. That, and a dream come true. But it's how is these days. Marketing yo.

 

[Welsh Wonder]

If he's shocked by the United support in America, imagine how shocked those Madrid cnuts were when they played us last season.

I know they're a bigger club than us so feck off

 

[Pogue Mahone]

This amuses me. It's so obviously a line you just have to say. That, and a dream come true. But it's how is these days. Marketing yo.

I don't think they'e being briefed at all. Quotes like that usually come out of an overseas tour, where players are genuinely taken aback by the size of the following United is getting overseas. If they've previously played for the likes of Barca or Madrid then it might be nothing new (hence we never heard similar quotes from Di Maria) but for the vast majority of new signings I'm sure those sort of comments are sincere. It must be kind of mind-blowing to rock up in somewhere like Japan or the USA and see thousands of people all wearing replica shirts from the club you play for in a different continent.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

The outrage is quite funny when you post that United isn't exactly the biggest the club.

There's no outrage. As was the case last time, there will be a few seriously and oddly downplaying us as some second rate club, and others admitting were not the most successful among all but clearly huge, and possibly the most famous/most supported.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

I don't think they'e being briefed at all. Quotes like that usually come out of an overseas tour, where players are genuinely taken aback by the size of the following United is getting overseas. If they've previously played for the likes of Barca or Madrid then it might be nothing new (hence we never heard similar quotes from Di Maria) but for the vast majority of new signings I'm sure those sort of comments are sincere.

The reaction to our support abroad is I'm sure genuine. The reach of this club is immense. But I was referring more to the quotes every time a player joins (not necessarily during a tour). They pretty much always say that we're the biggest club in the world. Maybe it's not briefed, maybe it's just to get the fans on your side, but it does feel really forced. Although I'm pretty sure the same must be happening at Madrid, Barca etc. and I'm sure every player who joins Chelsea calls Mourinho the best manager in the world. It's a thing.

 

[Mali_Zeus]

If he's shocked by the United support in America, imagine how shocked those Madrid cnuts were when they played us last season.

I know they're a bigger club than us so feck off

Yeah I remember Marca photoshopping stadium in LA so that it seems like they were more Madrid fans.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Yeah I remember Marca photoshopping stadium in LA so that it seems like they were more Madrid fans.

this amused me

 

[Welsh Wonder]

The reaction to our support abroad is I'm sure genuine. The reach of this club is immense. But I was referring more to the quotes every time a player joins (not necessarily during a tour). They pretty much always say that we're the biggest club in the world. Maybe it's not briefed, maybe it's just to get the fans on your side, but it does feel really forced. Although I'm pretty sure the same must be happening at Madrid, Barca etc. and I'm sure every player who joins Chelsea calls Mourinho the best manager in the world. It's a thing.

It's the same with every Liverpool signing snubbing United and every City signing saying Manchester is blue

 

[Striker10]

If we're the only ones that do it (and we're not), the other clubs are just jealous they didn't think of it first Bastian is probably having a dig after suggestions he's past it. Being a big club is not just about Europe and Europe to be frank used to get some funny teams in the final. Strange days. Now Europe is just a mess purely thanks to money.

 

[golden_blunder]

even when things are good, you lot would find something to argue about in an empty room

 

[Ish]

even when things are good, you lot would find something to argue about in an empty room

 

[Joga Bonito]

The player himself, however, believes he has joined a club even bigger than the one he has left behind and is looking forward to following in the midfield footsteps of players like Roy Keane and Paul Scholes.
Schweinsteiger promises to prove he can still dominate at the highest level in the Premier League

'United are more popular around the world,' he said. 'There is a difference and I could see that. Bayern Munich is a big club but Manchester United is bigger.

'When we were in China people knew us but Bayern were not so big in America. Roy Keane and Paul Scholes were unbelievable players. You cannot compare yourself to them. It is impossible.

'Scholes especially I like him a lot and I have a lot of respect for what he did for United. It was not easy and always tough to play against United. I just want to add my quality to United's game.

Spoiler

Bastian Schweinsteiger's admiration for Paul Scholes has been revealed as the two midfielders' clubs, Bayern Munich and Manchester United, prepare to meet in Sunday's Legends match at Old Trafford.

Bayern's first-team squad had an open training session at their Allianz Arena before last year's charity clash between the two teams of former players, which ended in a 3-3 draw with Scholes captaining the Reds and getting on the scoresheet.

Ex-United star Quinton Fortune played with Scholes in the United Legends' line-up that day, and will do so again this weekend. In an exclusive interview with ManUtd.com, Fortune told us this tale about his fellow Red's encounter with the Germany stalwart:

"I’ll never forget something really special that happened, when Schweinsteiger waited for Scholesy at half-time so he could get his shirt. This is someone who had just won the World Cup, and he was there waiting like a fan. I have a lot of respect for Bayern’s players for gestures like that, but it also shows the amount of respect people have for Scholes."

Scholes said at the time: "Schweinsteiger gave me one of his shirts as well, which was nice of him. He is an amazing footballer so it was nice to speak to him and I was quite pleased. I'm not sure why he wanted my shirt though!"

A debate about the best English midfielder of this generation was sparked again recently when Steven Gerrard left Liverpool. Fortune was in no doubt as to where his former colleague ranks. "They shouldn’t even be having this conversation. It’s like comparing Mayweather to Ali - in my opinion, it's just no comparison. It has to be Scholes."

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...schweinsteiger-wanted-paul-scholes-shirt.aspx

Spoiler

“Club icon Paul Scholes is definitely the one who impressed me most in the Allianz Arena last summer,” the Dutchman explains. “During our active careers, we met a few times on the pitch. I always looked with admiration to his intelligent movement and powerful shooting from long range. Also, his technical skills and accurate passing were remarkable. He is a true legend.”

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...ace-Paul-Scholes-during-Legends-Are-Back.aspx

 

[Unlikely lad]

Spoiler

Bastian Schweinsteiger's admiration for Paul Scholes has been revealed as the two midfielders' clubs, Bayern Munich and Manchester United, prepare to meet in Sunday's Legends match at Old Trafford.

Bayern's first-team squad had an open training session at their Allianz Arena before last year's charity clash between the two teams of former players, which ended in a 3-3 draw with Scholes captaining the Reds and getting on the scoresheet.

Ex-United star Quinton Fortune played with Scholes in the United Legends' line-up that day, and will do so again this weekend. In an exclusive interview with ManUtd.com, Fortune told us this tale about his fellow Red's encounter with the Germany stalwart:

"I’ll never forget something really special that happened, when Schweinsteiger waited for Scholesy at half-time so he could get his shirt. This is someone who had just won the World Cup, and he was there waiting like a fan. I have a lot of respect for Bayern’s players for gestures like that, but it also shows the amount of respect people have for Scholes."

Scholes said at the time: "Schweinsteiger gave me one of his shirts as well, which was nice of him. He is an amazing footballer so it was nice to speak to him and I was quite pleased. I'm not sure why he wanted my shirt though!"

A debate about the best English midfielder of this generation was sparked again recently when Steven Gerrard left Liverpool. Fortune was in no doubt as to where his former colleague ranks. "They shouldn’t even be having this conversation. It’s like comparing Mayweather to Ali - in my opinion, it's just no comparison. It has to be Scholes."

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...schweinsteiger-wanted-paul-scholes-shirt.aspx

Spoiler

“Club icon Paul Scholes is definitely the one who impressed me most in the Allianz Arena last summer,” the Dutchman explains. “During our active careers, we met a few times on the pitch. I always looked with admiration to his intelligent movement and powerful shooting from long range. Also, his technical skills and accurate passing were remarkable. He is a true legend.”

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...ace-Paul-Scholes-during-Legends-Are-Back.aspx

That last quote is from van Bommel?

 

[prath92]

I think the bigger takeaway from schweini's quotes is the fact that he sees himself as a dominator and defender. Probably highlighting that he is indeed here to play the #6 role rather than a more forward role. So I guess the lineups generally will be

Carrick/schweini
Herrera schneiderlin/fellaini

 

[ottosec]

Bastian fecking Schweinsteiger!

Can't wait to see him tonight!

 

[Sammyjunn]

Spoiler

Bastian Schweinsteiger's admiration for Paul Scholes has been revealed as the two midfielders' clubs, Bayern Munich and Manchester United, prepare to meet in Sunday's Legends match at Old Trafford.

Bayern's first-team squad had an open training session at their Allianz Arena before last year's charity clash between the two teams of former players, which ended in a 3-3 draw with Scholes captaining the Reds and getting on the scoresheet.

Ex-United star Quinton Fortune played with Scholes in the United Legends' line-up that day, and will do so again this weekend. In an exclusive interview with ManUtd.com, Fortune told us this tale about his fellow Red's encounter with the Germany stalwart:

"I’ll never forget something really special that happened, when Schweinsteiger waited for Scholesy at half-time so he could get his shirt. This is someone who had just won the World Cup, and he was there waiting like a fan. I have a lot of respect for Bayern’s players for gestures like that, but it also shows the amount of respect people have for Scholes."

Scholes said at the time: "Schweinsteiger gave me one of his shirts as well, which was nice of him. He is an amazing footballer so it was nice to speak to him and I was quite pleased. I'm not sure why he wanted my shirt though!"

A debate about the best English midfielder of this generation was sparked again recently when Steven Gerrard left Liverpool. Fortune was in no doubt as to where his former colleague ranks. "They shouldn’t even be having this conversation. It’s like comparing Mayweather to Ali - in my opinion, it's just no comparison. It has to be Scholes."

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...schweinsteiger-wanted-paul-scholes-shirt.aspx

Spoiler

“Club icon Paul Scholes is definitely the one who impressed me most in the Allianz Arena last summer,” the Dutchman explains. “During our active careers, we met a few times on the pitch. I always looked with admiration to his intelligent movement and powerful shooting from long range. Also, his technical skills and accurate passing were remarkable. He is a true legend.”

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...ace-Paul-Scholes-during-Legends-Are-Back.aspx

Where's Scholes by the way, he hasnt commented on us in a while?

 

[Pexbo]

Where's Scholes by the way, he hasnt commented on us in a while?

I've been waiting for his views on our signings. Seems a shame he only seems to comment the negatives.

 

[Manny]

Yeah I remember Marca photoshopping stadium in LA so that it seems like they were more Madrid fans.

That was fecking terrible. And that was just the press. Imagine what the assholes at Real Madrid tell players when they're tapping them up.

 

[Rooney in Paris]

even when things are good, you lot would find something to argue about in an empty room

So true!

 

[Kaos]

I doubt most players sincerely mean it when they say they're happy to sign for "the biggest club in the world". Pretty much every player who signs for a top 5-10 club says it out of obligation, if not to appease the fans or the club's higher ups.

Schweinsteiger might be coming from a position of sincerity because of his sentimental view of the club (not least via his brother), but I sincerely doubt someone like Schneiderlin would say anything different at the likes of Bayern, Madrid, Barca or Juve.

 

[Piratesoup]

Lets hope he can stay fit and relevant. I'm not really sad to see him go, but it still just doesn't feel right...

@Balu
Who will be the new "Fußballgott"? I vote for Müller.

 

[Danillaco]

If he's shocked by the United support in America, imagine how shocked those Madrid cnuts were when they played us last season.

I know they're a bigger club than us so feck off

Remember when they photoshopped the stadium, so it had more white shirts?

 

[djembatheking]

Love schweinsteigers attitude , I can`t see him looking dejected and giving up when things aren`t going well like Di Maria appeared to do last year . With the players we`ve signed and possibly a few more to come we are looking well set to have a good go at home and in europe with a squad big enough in quality to cope with injuries and suspensions .

 

[Adnan]

I think Barca are the biggest right now and have the biggest pull for potential new recruits.

 

[anchan1989]

Shots fired @anchan1989

Why?
If you mean that standard "oh my new club is soo big" comment I couldnt care less.
Bayern grew so much in the last 5 years and United had so many troubles. Im fine.

Btw; we all hate to admit it but Barca and Real have their own special league. So I always get a laugh out of the English hype comments about United.
How they tried to make Schweinis transfer a sign for their stupid "United is above Bayern" storyline.
Yeah. Go on about it. We buy Vidal, Costa and di Maria and go much deeper in the CL. If you qualify of course.

That's the one thing the Caf never forgets and never needs to be reminded of. I don't think any other fanbase is as obsessed with being a big club or the biggest club or whatever as the United fans on the Caf are. It's hilarious.

Being delusional would be my phrase.

 

[Tomuś]

I like this transfer already. Bayern's legend signs for us and immediately says we're bigger than they are then United fans get bollocking from bayern fans for daring to listen to it. No sour grapes at all and he hasn't even kicked a football yet. Now isn't that delusional.

 

[Devil may care]

Things getting prickly in here with our German comrades, both clubs are pretty!

I would say the opposite, a lot more fans are negative and need reminding that we're not so bad actually.

That's never more evident than in the transfer forum.

 

[Empire]

He also pointed out how he and Louis van Gaal lost to United at Old Trafford

(Yes I know Bayern went through on away goals)

And then he spoke of 1999.

The fans at Old Trafford will love him. Can't wait to see the cheers he gets.

 

[Xivon]

Wasn't Schweini talking about Manchester United being bigger than Bayern in regard to global standing, especially in Asia and USA? I'm not offended by a fact.

 

[ChaddyP]

Yeah I remember Marca photoshopping stadium in LA so that it seems like they were more Madrid fans.

was Actually big house in Michigan . I remember cuz i was at that game. It was 3/4 full of red shirts and some even in our white jersey. Such an embarrassing newspaper marca is to feel the need to edit a pic like that

 

[Piratesoup]

Wasn't Schweini talking about Manchester United being bigger than Bayern in regard to global standing, especially in Asia and USA? I'm not offended by a fact.

It's the 17th of july, the time when journalists try their very best to spin fake gold out of any old crap they see or hear on the web.

 

[RDCR07]

Lets hope he can stay fit and relevant. I'm not really sad to see him go, but it still just doesn't feel right...

@Balu
Who will be the new "Fußballgott"? I vote for Müller.

There is only one Fußballgott! Its Bastian fecking Schweinsteiger!

 

[Fully Fledged]

Lets hope he can stay fit and relevant. I'm not really sad to see him go, but it still just doesn't feel right...

@Balu
Who will be the new "Fußballgott"? I vote for Müller.

That's alright he'll be coming next year.