Who are the farmers now??? Huh?!?!?! WHO ARE THE FARMERS?!?!?
Barcelona: Charged with corruption .... again!
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French farmers are good at revolutions. PL about to get the royal haircut
Besides, PSG 3-2 City. Rennes won the group ahead of Spurs in the Conference
It's happening!
Those arguments are so stupid.
Wouldn't mind but we beat them twiceGood Lord.
Good Lord.
Struggling to score against crystal palace
Palace are well drilled. The league champions also couldn't break them down at home.
Sure, but while la liga is not as good as the epl united haven’t shown anything this season to suggest they’d finish top 4 in la liga
We’ve a new coach who has been here for what 3 days? Are you totally incapable of critical thinking?
Why are you criticizing him? He didn’t say anything wrong. We have a new coach as well.
League champions lost against them at home.
There’s so many own goals in this thread that it’s getting sad now
but isn’t that half the fun of the internet? To not take it so seriously
Yeah but there’s so many examples you can choose from this season and you keep choosing the wrong options!
We all know the sanctimonious Messi fans are all very well educated, they’re not idiots, they are all above us mere mortals, sanctimonious Total Football preachers like Xavi never lose, they always keep their posture, they never call us idiots, after all, they always do things with style and glamour, they didn’t lost against Betis, they are above that, they have possession, el balon, la pelota.As for idiots saying I’m hiding, it was 4 am my time when you all were responding. I’m still here don’t worry
When they spout the word idiot it’s all done to educate us that they belong to Mes que Un Club, so I as an humble non Cule will assume here that I am the real idiot, while you of course have to keep your sleep to come in the day after preaching us about the virtuosity of sanctimonious Xavi, or why Lewandowski wasn’t robbed of a Ballon d’or, no, even when Pessi doesn’t pay his taxes it’s not a crime.
After all, they all belong to Mes que Un Club. Now that is really a idiotic thing to say, sleep well, and keep your dreams intact, La Masia and Xavi will convert the world into their virtuosity.
It's like a Choose Your Own Adventure novel haha
Ronaldo didn't pay taxes either but keep being thick and carry on
Of course. He committed a crime. While Fressi is above that. He is the best tax avoider ever. There will never ever be one like him.
Do me a favor and quote where I said Messi paid his taxes. Go ahead.
Ronaldo fled the country when the tax thing became an issue, Messi actually went to court
Of course. Cules always do it better.
So good he even got someone else to pay the fines for him
Btw, it's always the same story with barcelona and new things: "Well we're crap but already you can see improvement over his predecessor!" Despite there being ZERO evidence of it
They're prisoners of Cruyff and Guardiola to such an extent they're wasting a generational DM because he's not exactly what they are used to in a DM. Worse they keep talking about barca DNA and style and whatever but the truth is not a single one of them understands the first thing about Cruyff/Guardiola's principles and ideas
Hell, Cruyff himself called them out on it before he died
They always put themselves morally superior in football terms to everyone. Even when Real Madrid wins Champions Leagues for the Xavis of this World they will never be part of history because they don’t play the right way.So good he even got someone else to pay the fines for him
Btw, it's always the same story with barcelona and new things: "Well we're crap but already you can see improvement over his predecessor!" Despite there being ZERO evidence of it
They're prisoners of Cruyff and Guardiola to such an extent they're wasting a generational DM because he's not exactly what they are used to in a DM. Worse they keep talking about barca DNA and style and whatever but the truth is not a single one of them understands the first thing about Cruyff/Guardiola's principles and ideas
Hell, Cruyff himself called them out on it before he died
So good he even got someone else to pay the fines for him
Btw, it's always the same story with barcelona and new things: "Well we're crap but already you can see improvement over his predecessor!" Despite there being ZERO evidence of it
They're prisoners of Cruyff and Guardiola to such an extent they're wasting a generational DM because he's not exactly what they are used to in a DM. Worse they keep talking about barca DNA and style and whatever but the truth is not a single one of them understands the first thing about Cruyff/Guardiola's principles and ideas
Hell, Cruyff himself called them out on it before he died
Which DM?
So good he even got someone else to pay the fines for him
Btw, it's always the same story with barcelona and new things: "Well we're crap but already you can see improvement over his predecessor!" Despite there being ZERO evidence of it
They're prisoners of Cruyff and Guardiola to such an extent they're wasting a generational DM because he's not exactly what they are used to in a DM. Worse they keep talking about barca DNA and style and whatever but the truth is not a single one of them understands the first thing about Cruyff/Guardiola's principles and ideas
Hell, Cruyff himself called them out on it before he died
Its been 3 matches for xavi with Fati and pedri injured.
xavi may absolutely turn out to be a failure but it’s moronic to call it out after 3 matches
Eh? I wasn't being sarcastic when I said Palace are a good, well organised side.
Yeah. Curious as well. Utd might need one
.I was meant to reply to the poster that you were initially replying to. Sorry.
All goodI was meant to reply to the poster that you were initially replying to. Sorry.
All good
The way Barça are playing they probably wouldn't make it into the top 3 in the portuguese league right now.
Frenkie De Jong
Not saying he's gonna fail. Just pointing out 4 games in nothing much has changed from Koeman and yet cules are already talking about how you can already see the difference. What difference? The only difference is he's introduced another kid to the team, because of the injuries. They play the same, do the same things, in much the same way and with the same results
It's the same stuff they were saying about Setien, too. That worked out well
Frenkie De Jong
Not saying he's gonna fail. Just pointing out 4 games in nothing much has changed from Koeman and yet cules are already talking about how you can already see the difference. What difference? The only difference is he's introduced another kid to the team, because of the injuries. They play the same, do the same things, in much the same way and with the same results
It's the same stuff they were saying about Setien, too. That worked out well
Honestly, I feel like we actually attack the goal so much more. Under Koeman we would just pass and pass until the final third and everyone was allergic to shooting
but I hear you, I’m not raving about xavi or anything (we’ll get murdered against Bayern) but I do think we have looked a little better than we did with Koeman but obviously it’s early days
3 games with Xavi: 12, 12, 16 shots. Last 3 under Koeman: 10, 16, 16 shots
Xavi does want to attack more through the wing with two out and out wingers, whereas Koeman wanted to keep things in the middle and only go wide once the defence narrowed, but that's about it. Xavi is leaning more on individuality and dribbling
Yeah it's pretty obvious when he puts Dembele on the pitch. A risky strategy though since Dembele and Fati are injury prone, what's the plan if they're both unvailable? We'll see if he manages impose different gameplans but it's obviously still very early. Also, finding balance with this team will be very hard since we can't really say the back 4 is flawless. His team in Qatar recently had trouble keeping a cleansheet (more than one goal against per game despite a vastly superior team).
They couldn't get a top manager due to funds and in general Barca don't do big managers (not big before they take the job.)
That said, this was a massive risk. Tbh, he is kind of lucky to have as good of a run as 1w, 2d, 1l. Could've been a lot worse than that.
Ofcourse it's a PR stunt and we have seen this from Barca at least from last 10 years. Every player they are linked to or signed will be reported as "taking a wage cut" but ultimately they end up paying highest wages in the football for number of years.
Even with Dembele we saw the same thing, that Dembele is taking Paycut on his new contract and then it's Jan, he didn't sign the contract and reports that he wants nearly double of what he was earning.
No player (at least the one not on decline and best years behind them) will take a pay cut, when they move to bigger clubs they expect bigger pay.
he’s not lucky, he’s been ravaged with a squad full of injuries and Covid (as other teams have had too). Barca have 17 players out for todays match. Considering the circumstances he’s done a damn good job, much better early on than I could have hoped. Still early days but his record with the club as a manager is 5 wins, and 3 draws and 2 losses (including Copa del Rey and CL) Considering the injuries that’s very good.
Yeah he's not that bad and not sure why the knives were out for him on here.
Then again, some are already sharpening their knives for Rangy.
Then again, some are already sharpening their knives for Rangy.
The Barcelona of the last 10 years was led by Rosell and then Bartomeu, now there is Laporta with Alemany. Other leaders, another way of doing things.
What valid information do we have now?
To begin with, in 2019-2020 the wage bill was €690M, now it is €470M. A considerable reduction.
A few months ago Barcelona had complications to register Depay and Eric Garcia.
Now without changing the financial fair play Barcelona has spent € 55M on F. Torres and also his salary, the € 10M of Koeman to throw him out and his staff, the contract of Xavi and his staff, the renovations of A. Fati and Pedri considerably increasing their salary...
So the question is how has Barcelona managed to accommodate all that expense?
Well, there is the option that some players have lowered their salary and others have left. There are players who value earning a little less and living well where they are with their family settled and acclimated to the city. And if they are people who were born in Barcelona, they value it even more.
I didn't say no one lowered their salary, Madrid, Barca players took pay cut during covid season and it was well documented. Older players like Pique, Alba taking paycut is known one too.
I said these "players took wage cuts to join Barca" or "Barca won't pay any wages as player took paycut" is just PR stunt and it's been done for last 10 years. They pay or at least paid shit loads of money in wages but their journalists kept reporting about how players took wage cut to join Barca.
So now the question is, why was Barca wage bill 690 million when every player was desperate to play for them and took pay cuts to join them?
Also there was one more PR stunt that Dembele is taking paycut to extend his contract, did that happen or as per the latest reports, is he asking for insane wages?
The press needs to create news to sell, sometimes they are true and sometimes not. It is impossible to discern which is which always. Why give it importance then?
The € 690M of salary mass was mainly due to Messi's contract and the high amortizations of very expensive players: Coutinho, Dembele, Griezzman, De Jong ...
Barcelona want to renew Dembele with a lower fixed amount and higher variables, basically in case he is injured all the time, not paying him a lot like now. At first it seemed that an agreement could be reached and the player was willing, he spoke with Xavi and told him that he did want to renew, but later the agent arrived and asked for exorbitant amounts. And so is the case right now.