this is part of it. The other part is 17.8 xGA. Ter Stegen has been great but opponents in Spain just miss against them...
...because of this
Barcelona: Charged with corruption .... again!
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You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.
You'll get another reality slap.
I understand your frustration.
Clearly still at it it seems. Nothing will change, so proud of the lads to dismiss these cheats
The irony
You understand nothing about anything
What does @Niema thinks about today’s match? Not even with the referee gifting you a PK, you were able to beat us.
You were counting with winning the EL to balance your finances . Which lever will leverlona pull now?
As Garnacho said: today the big team passed the round.
You were counting with winning the EL to balance your finances
. Which lever will leverlona pull now?As Garnacho said: today the big team passed the round.
The irony
No argument and nervous laughter.
I've never messed with anyone. I have simply put information for the amount of fake news that is said here
- Barcelona could not sign in December 2021 and I explained why it was possible. And Barcelona signed.
- In summer the same and the time proved me right.
- Barcelona was obliged to sell FDJ and I said it was not like that. Again the reason in my favor.
Since you know so much. When do we go bankrupt?
To remind you.
Do you have any arguments?
What does @Niema thinks about today’s match? Not even with the referee gifting you a PK, you were able to beat us.
You were counting with winning the EL to balance your finances
As Garnacho said: today the big team passed the round.
Obviously not. What is left to earn by today's elimination has already been earned by the increase in sponsorships, tickets and merchandising.
I have already explained it.
I understand that you are under a violent reaction of euphoria. It's understandable, and that euphoria leads you to put this kind of thing because you think it bothers me.
You waste time. I recommend you read and practice stoicism.
A stoic person is one who tries to work on self-control and self-awareness to achieve a full life. Being stoic does not mean being cold or distant, but trying to dominate negative emotions to achieve happiness.
You haven't answered me. When will Barcelona go bankrupt?
The thing I find strange about this Barca team is that they're genuinely happier dicking around in their own third than bothering to try and play in the opponent's third. Penalty and a botched header aside, they created almost nothing until added time. And that was with 30 minutes of needing a goal.
The sooner football moves on from posession for the sake of posession, the sooner it becomes fun again. It's like the Spanish national side: death by a thousand passes. With death being any iota of enjoyment of a sporting spectacle.
The sooner football moves on from posession for the sake of posession, the sooner it becomes fun again. It's like the Spanish national side: death by a thousand passes. With death being any iota of enjoyment of a sporting spectacle.
I mean the obvious answer is if their income becomes regularly less than their expenditure. That may not happen, but taking on enormous debt coupled with long-term required payments means it's far from impossible. From the analyses, it feels to me like that Barca are reliant on some 'good fortune' in of a sponsor or debtor to survive.
All that said, it's a bit of a joke when City, PSG and Newcastle (and yes, possibly United) can just have their owners pump in cash to alleviate such worries. If Qatar suddenly pledged 2bn to be shirt sponsor for Barca I don't see how that's particularly different from what the other state-owned clubs do.
Obviously, Barcelona cannot change the economic ruin that Bartomeu left from one year to the next. He left an aging team, with long and very high contracts and a lot of debt.
In these two years the situation has improved a lot, but there are still things to do to reach economic equilibrium.
Luckily at Barcelona they have a young team and they will hardly make any signings, and those who do make some will arrive without a transfer. It is the only thing that Barcelona can do in these years while the situation normalizes.
In about a month the financing for the new stadium will be announced, which in theory will bring more income and from then on the situation will improve a lot.
BarceLona
There's a big difference in that United earns enough money to be able to do that without an owner. The Glazers are a huge financial disadvantage. Without them, we'd be able to spend as much as those other clubs do. If we removed owners from the equation altogether, the only clubs that could compete financially with United are Real Madrid and possibly Bayern. The clubs that are nothing without their owners are the ones making a mockery of the sport by existing on a platform where wealth and sporting success are completely disconnected from each other.
Am well aware, I meant United in a possible Qatari ownership world.
This year's europe was definetly a step forward, but we still have a long way to go and to relearn how to compete in europe again. You can't delete 6-7 years of decline in just one year.
Having your 3 best defenders injured in the CL and 3 key players in the EL didn't help either of course. With our financial situation we could built a decent first XI, but our bench isn't obviously on that level.
Given the circumstances, it was a good set overall. The only thing where United was better, was in scoring. We could keep up with the intensity for most of the time (unthinkable in the last 5 years) and had a lot of good attacks but failed with the last pass, or bad shots. And the team needs to practice counter attacks. Yesterday, we failed some of them pathetically like a segunda division team.
Now, it's time to focus on the spanish double. The league is always the most honest and important title and we need to win it, being 8 points up to Madrid. And take the Copa too of course, but that will be more difficult watching Madrid's form right now. The Copa clasicos will depend on who will be available for us. We need Dembele to feed Lewandowski up front.
Having your 3 best defenders injured in the CL and 3 key players in the EL didn't help either of course. With our financial situation we could built a decent first XI, but our bench isn't obviously on that level.
Given the circumstances, it was a good set overall. The only thing where United was better, was in scoring. We could keep up with the intensity for most of the time (unthinkable in the last 5 years) and had a lot of good attacks but failed with the last pass, or bad shots. And the team needs to practice counter attacks. Yesterday, we failed some of them pathetically like a segunda division team.
Now, it's time to focus on the spanish double. The league is always the most honest and important title and we need to win it, being 8 points up to Madrid. And take the Copa too of course, but that will be more difficult watching Madrid's form right now. The Copa clasicos will depend on who will be available for us. We need Dembele to feed Lewandowski up front.
Whats this about praising Real Madrid?
What are your criteria for establishing the honesty of a title?
When Barcelona dominates a given tournament, does this tournament automatically become more honest than any other?
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It is pretty funny to talk about the league being "the most honest title" when you're in a middle of a "buying refs in the league" scandal.
Yes, we have improved a lot compared to last year but things are missing. What we lack most is quality and precision in the last pass and before the last pass.
Time and space are generated but quality is lacking in that aspect of the game.
Another important thing is effective wingers in the 1vs1, in that aspect there is only Dembélé.
They're already morally bankrupt.
With all the financial shenanigans that’ve been going on at Barcelona for years it’s obvious something will happen soon? I just hope we get first dibs on some of their players if they end up having a fire sale. Was very impressed with Balde last night, he was a constant menace. FdJ of course is still very much sort after by us in the summer.
I thought it's self-evident. But I can still write it down of course.
In order to win the league, you have to be better than everybody else over 38 games throughout the whole season. In a cup format, you can get eliminated in every tier because of a bad daily form, lots of injuries, bad referee decisions or simply bad luck when you hit the post and your opponent hits the net. It doesn't matter in a cup format, if you were the best team before and won every game 5-0, if you lose the next, you're out. The league forgives a few bad weeks, if you're still better overall. That's why a league's title is always the most honest one, because it rewards the best team throughout the whole season.
Remember that you praised the potential la Liga title for Barça on two factors: honesty and importance. I didn't criticise you for choosing "importance" but for choosing "honesty". Those two terms have two very different meanings.
When you state that something is more honest than something else, you imply that the other thing is less honest. You are casting shadows on its honesty, its integrity. You imply that a potential Europa League winner like United is less honest than Barça or that a potential Champions League winner is less honest than your side.
If you deliberately choose the term honesty to establish some kind of superiority in morals and values (valors!) for Barça you are being unfair to the winners of the other titles. Extremely unfair unless there is evidence of unethical behaviour by clubs, high ranking officials or referees in the Champions League or Europa League. And there isn't. "Let's respect the presumption of innocence!" is something I've heard a lot lately from Barça fans. I agree.
Of course, we can also discuss the importance of Spanish La Liga titles compared to CL or EL. But that is an extremely subjective discussion and also completely innocent. You don't imply foul play by innocent clubs just by doing that.
Summarising a lot: winning a title doesn't make you more honest.
There is nothing self-evident. Honest is completely bizarre word to use in that context. Besides if you insist, you can apply the same for the Primera given small margins.
At lengths you guys go, trying to rationalize your own failures or success of Real Madrid - which heavily impacts your identity in a negative way, is completely frackin absurd.
I’m glad more people are saying this. Over the past 15 years Spanish teams have had the red on their side in crucial moments time and time again.
Real fans would say Uefalona for all their referee help,
Barca fans would rebuttal by mentioning the 2017 and 2018 clashes against Bayern where they had obvious help…
when in reality both have had the ref on their side time and time again. Not saying anyone was bribed, Spanish teams were better at play acting and then swarming the ref than anyone else, but glad people are noticing.
I love how they are leading the league, but still will have a complete meltdown losing by one goal over a two legged tie against us.
Recent news suggest it's the other way around actually
not disagreeing with the overall point but we really did not get helped in 2017. The first leg had that ridiculous penalty, and the second should have been over after 10 minutes. We got help later on, after getting severely screwed almost cost us the tie...
Negreira's former wife has said if he was earning all that money, she never saw any of it arriving home.
A pissed of ex wife could be a huge problem for those involved.
Even after all that money spent, their best players over the two legs were still mostly from their academy (Gavi, Pedri and I thought Busquets was good last night as well. No idea if Araujo is from their academy or they signed him)
They should have accepted that they were going to be away from the limelight for a few years, and rebuilt their team with their academy players and some other younger signings, alongside a promising manager (I like what I see from Xavi's teams) rather than going down the route they did. They spent an insane amount of money, leveraged against future incomes of the club and what they got for the money spent is really not that impressive in my opinion.
They should have accepted that they were going to be away from the limelight for a few years, and rebuilt their team with their academy players and some other younger signings, alongside a promising manager (I like what I see from Xavi's teams) rather than going down the route they did. They spent an insane amount of money, leveraged against future incomes of the club and what they got for the money spent is really not that impressive in my opinion.
Plus a team funded by selling of future income!
The commentator on BT said last night that Barcelona need to clear 200 million euros off their wage bill and aside from five players (Pedri, Gavi Araujo and 2 others) the rest of the squad will be available for transfer!
Pedri is a signing, from Las Palmas. Araujo is a pseudo-signing (from Uruguay, but moved to the B team).
I think they could have signed a few less players, some of the signings were kinda pointless. Bellerín already left.
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