This is indeed an absolutely representative summary. Bayern owes its successes without exception to the great FC Barcelona (do you actually believe the nonsense you write or are you just being polemical?).
Barcelona: Charged with corruption .... again!
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What does that even mean?Mes que un Covid?
If you don't understand it, I can't help you.
But answer me to this. Do you get very bored with the German league?
I see that football interests you little, you are one of those fans who only watches football to mess with the followers of other teams when your team is better.
But when another team is better, quiet and to the cave.
You wrote "I don't know if it's Barcelona or it's Spain that the last few times vaccinated Germany pretty well." and that is not a complete sentence.
Yeah I'm at a loss as well. Must be the Bundesliga vaccine we got
It's all very clear.
But you haven't answered, do you get bored with the German league?
It's a Way of speaking Latin, nothing happens if it's not understood.
What entertains you the most?
Football games.
At the moment Barca's plight
Let me give you a broader perspective: Barca has been seen in Germany as a great traditional club, one of the few beacons of hope against sportswashing clubs etc. Sruff like the UNICEF "sponsoring" guaranteed a lot of respect and good will, the excellent football aroun 2010 definitely let this respect peak.
The arrogance, delusion and disgustable behaviour towards their own players destroy this image in record time. It's not about our league being boring, it is about losing hope that good clubs have a chance to win the biggest honors.
English teams haven't been proper clubs for ages, Real Madrid has never been likable, Atletico is a bunch of dirty cnuts, Bayern is respectable but not likable, for PSG see English clubs and thats about it who might win the CL... Barca was kind of the last potential CL winner that one could like.
Now even Real Madrid looks much more like a true, nice team. A decade ago I could have never imagined to react to a Real CL win with "nice, the old boys did it once again"
The arrogance, delusion and disgustable behaviour towards their own players destroy this image in record time. It's not about our league being boring, it is about losing hope that good clubs have a chance to win the biggest honors.
English teams haven't been proper clubs for ages, Real Madrid has never been likable, Atletico is a bunch of dirty cnuts, Bayern is respectable but not likable, for PSG see English clubs and thats about it who might win the CL... Barca was kind of the last potential CL winner that one could like.
Now even Real Madrid looks much more like a true, nice team. A decade ago I could have never imagined to react to a Real CL win with "nice, the old boys did it once again"
I know perfectly well that you like football matches, so do I. That's why I asked him.
At the moment Barca's plight
Yes, we all know that here.
The question was German football.
Unless you think that he is different, your question is ridiculous.
I'm a United fan first and foremost, my local team plays in the second, sometimes third German division, so the Bundesliga woes really don't affect me personally
Barca able to register everyone, one hell of a transfer window
This is a car crash of a thread
Steady, cowboy.
Not saying this is true, but it's pretty much the perception and reputation of these clubs here in Germany
Here you have to differentiate between what the club is and the people who run it.
A club can act in an unwanted way and in a year with new leaders behave ethically.
Everything can be talked about from education and that's what a forum like this is for.
As I said before, life must be taken with humor, but it tires that every time a new post is made here, they enter saying nonsense without arguments and insulting.
And if you answer them at the end they end up with 8-2 and mes que un lever or things like that.
Are we 8 year old children in this forum?
Just remembered Bayern crashing out spectacularly to Villarreal last season
This is the problem with such an awful league like the German or French league. It’s CL or bust, otherwise nobody cares
This is the problem with such an awful league like the German or French league. It’s CL or bust, otherwise nobody cares
That's wrong. We all cared when Bayern got hammered 5-0 by Gladbach in the cupJust remembered Bayern crashing out spectacularly to Villarreal last season
This is the problem with such an awful league like the German or French league. It’s CL or bust, otherwise nobody cares
What does proper club mean, though? If not every club has the same ownership structure as German clubs, it's not a proper club? Seems very egocentric if so.
I personally thought it was generally speaking level-headed people able to form a constructive and critical opinion without having to regurgitate club PR propaganda. But you and Ragnar have shown me I was wrong!
Dont feed the trolls. Theres other posts and conversations in the thread.
Not a great CL draw for you guys. You should finish ahead of Inter really but its a banana skin
Even if Barca get out of the group a tough R16 will await them assuming they finish second.
@Lemoor the league that has the most CL’s and Europa’s of the last decade is far from an awful league. Madrid looked horrific in that first leg against psg though
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All worked out well for them. Had a great window.
How?
Ancelotti was almost fired in february when Real lost 1:0 to PSG. Does this make la liga an awful league as well?
Well, of course I think differently, and I have said it before. And I also asked him, not you.
You have no idea what you're talking about, I have the worst of Laporta's opinions. You can see my first posts and some of the last ones.
And I always put information about what I say and think. I do it constructively and assertively. You can check my post.
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I personally thought it was generally speaking level-headed people able to form a constructive and critical opinion without having to regurgitate club PR propaganda. But you and Ragnar have shown me I was wrong!"
So you are doing exactly the opposite of what you say.
I invite everyone to see my post and you mainly.
A club is usually defined as an association of people to support a common goal.
By this definition the whole idea that a club could be owned by someone is absurd, yet it is the case with the PL teams. So from my point of view no PL team is a club, but Barca or the typical German teams are.
I don't know if that's egocentric...
Are they not designed to save clubs from themselves, perfect example being the ridiculous situation Barcelona currently find themselves in? From my understanding there's a few clubs in La Liga having financial complications, so in the sense of La Liga stepping in to create a league wide ruleset to save a multitude of clubs from going bankrupt then yes it is incredibly beneficial.
It's a good point, however my current perception is that Barca fans generally support their current board and it's actions, so at the moment there doesn't seem to be much reason to differentiate. The board pressuring Braithwaite to leave and the fans reaction to him aligns pretty well for example.
I dont think your necessarily wrong. I think the Premier League kind of has competing, contradictory realities. I'm pretty sure most people feel like they own and are connected to their local club even if reality doesn't reflect that. The owners seem happy to feed and support that idea in a lot of cases so while your technically right I think its a bit more complicated than that.
I see the group as really complicated. Barcelona have good players but as a team they have many gaps. Xavi needs to introduce more variants to the team's game. If Barcelona is third in the group, right now, I see it as normal.
Would that not be kind of disastrous? I know QF are kind of the minimum aim, how much room to maneuver do you have from that?
Yes, many fans support what Laporta does.
I wanted the other candidate to win. What Laporta did in his first term is to prohibit him from running for president again.
I have the worst opinion of him. The only thing I liked about his candidacy is Mateu Alemany, he seems to me the best sports director there is.
And he was wrong last year in inflating losses, because now he had to activate more levers to recoup those inflated losses. A disaster.
The 6th and final lever is Laporta buying a "how not to get pumped by Bayern Munich" guide from Florentino and Roig
Are there any sections of the Barca support that want an all Catalan team a bit like Bilbao?