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We can't see your pms, Jopub and we do not get notification if you've read them or not.

Well I thought you could see them. I'm sure you did get notification of an opened mail, but maybe you have to switch your mail box to that. I dont know cos its something I just dont use

Anyway they still sit there at the top of my page unopened, so I did 'nt get any notification, infraction advice or anything else he wants to call it

Heres the copy and paste from the top of my page
RedCafe.net

The Leading Manchester United Forum

Welcome, Jopub

 
Banned ?!

For what and by whom

I stick up a post about whinging Utd fans of which there were bucketloads after your last two defeats and I get banned !

Why ?

Im not a racist, I never bang on about anything like Munich or some such equivalent nasty shit, you know, really hardcore shite that some people on here get away with. I hardly ever post in the Utd forum and am guilty of the odd gentle wup amongst a lot of the banter that goes on here, and you could argue my winding up is far less than almost any other non utd poster.

I'm pretty fking harmless really and one of the few who is actually level headed about the faults of their own club

so what the fk is this then?

I thought the days when you got banned for the hell of it were over. Whats the fking point ?

Do you want only Utd posters on here that lick each others bums forever. If you do you should say so and we can all forget it.

If you want to ban me for absolutely fk all at a whim then I'll go if thats what you want

Banning me for saying some of the cafe are spoilt brats is er actually the mark of being, dare I say it, a 'spoilt brat'

fksakes

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And how is this done? I put up a new thread which for some reason did not go up and I repeated it. The next second Im banned with the message

You have been banned for the following reason:
Refusing to listen to advice (later changed to 'unspecified reason'?)

Date the ban will be lifted: 9th March 2011, 11:00


What fking advice?? Of course being banned I could nt then see any of the three messages that were in my inbox!! so I'm banned for not being able to read the so called 'advice' being given !! by who? As I still havent read them having only logged on just now. I assume you can check that I havent even opened them so how the fk would I read any advice :wenger: I dont know who they came from. I assume its from Pogue Mahone who then came up with some comment in the thread

"I deleted the first one to give him a few minutes to think about how stupid he was making himself look. I'll leave this second one to hang round for posterity."

Really well given the context it dont look any less stupid now than it did then. Banning someone for it though .........o yes, that's sooo fking cool

So why was I banned then? assuming it was you Pogue Mahone

Why? wtf is it that so upset you that you had to go all big and almighty and do that? Why are you so offended? and by what?
You mention "grown ups" in that post - well that's really fkin 'grown up' from you is'nt it. How fking juvenile are you?

Human beings - give them some kind of feakish power and it goes to their fking heads - what a wanker

chill out dude, it's only a internet forum.
 
I'm not surprised Jopub...take it on the chin and come back in a couple of days a better man or woman......whatever.

Plus the moaning about us might be better suited to an Arsenal forum
 
Well I thought you could see them. I'm sure you did get notification of an opened mail, but maybe you have to switch your mail box to that. I dont know cos its something I just dont use

Anyway they still sit there at the top of my page unopened, so I did 'nt get any notification, infraction advice or anything else he wants to call it

Heres the copy and paste from the top of my page
RedCafe.net

The Leading Manchester United Forum

Welcome, Jopub


Yeah no, they remain pretty private. I'm surprised you didn't notice that you had notifications, though. Perhaps you were busy posting? Or maybe you don't get a lot of pms so you don't really look up there?
 
I'll be honest, I don't see much wrong with Jopub's thread, and think banning him was over the top.

As already mentioned, he wasn't banned for the thread, he was banned for ignoring a warning, reposting the same stuff that had been deleted minutes before, with an explanation.
 
Banned ?!

For what and by whom

I stick up a post about whinging Utd fans of which there were bucketloads after your last two defeats and I get banned !

Why ?

Im not a racist, I never bang on about anything like Munich or some such equivalent nasty shit, you know, really hardcore shite that some people on here get away with. I hardly ever post in the Utd forum and am guilty of the odd gentle wup amongst a lot of the banter that goes on here, and you could argue my winding up is far less than almost any other non utd poster.

I'm pretty fking harmless really and one of the few who is actually level headed about the faults of their own club

so what the fk is this then?

I thought the days when you got banned for the hell of it were over. Whats the fking point ?

Do you want only Utd posters on here that lick each others bums forever. If you do you should say so and we can all forget it.

If you want to ban me for absolutely fk all at a whim then I'll go if thats what you want

Banning me for saying some of the cafe are spoilt brats is er actually the mark of being, dare I say it, a 'spoilt brat'

fksakes

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And how is this done? I put up a new thread which for some reason did not go up and I repeated it. The next second Im banned with the message

You have been banned for the following reason:
Refusing to listen to advice (later changed to 'unspecified reason'?)

Date the ban will be lifted: 9th March 2011, 11:00


What fking advice?? Of course being banned I could nt then see any of the three messages that were in my inbox!! so I'm banned for not being able to read the so called 'advice' being given !! by who? As I still havent read them having only logged on just now. I assume you can check that I havent even opened them so how the fk would I read any advice :wenger: I dont know who they came from. I assume its from Pogue Mahone who then came up with some comment in the thread

"I deleted the first one to give him a few minutes to think about how stupid he was making himself look. I'll leave this second one to hang round for posterity."

Really well given the context it dont look any less stupid now than it did then. Banning someone for it though .........o yes, that's sooo fking cool

So why was I banned then? assuming it was you Pogue Mahone

Why? wtf is it that so upset you that you had to go all big and almighty and do that? Why are you so offended? and by what?
You mention "grown ups" in that post - well that's really fkin 'grown up' from you is'nt it. How fking juvenile are you?

Human beings - give them some kind of feakish power and it goes to their fking heads - what a wanker

Is there a question you're trying to ask here?
 
Might as well post the original, deleted, thread.

Moan fking Utd and now they don't fking talk to anybody any more

They lose a couple of games - its nobody else's fault but the refs which have suddenly turned intro the worst refereeing decisions in the history of the game. Every single player on the planet is apparantly trying to break their players legs whilst they run around and give out canyfloss being so nice

:wenger:

For a change things dont go their way as they normally do and they're the biggest whining bunch of fkers ever

The manager does'nt talk to anybody, the assistant who a week ago at Wigan says 'we dont talk about refs we just talk about the game and move
on' now doe'snt have a tongue

Moan Fking Utd - on and on and on

How, when they spend most of their time laughing at everybody else, tedious are the Utd lot

Spoilt fking brats

"it's our ball and you're not playing with it" (untill we win again and then everything will be alright)

A brilliant and thought-provoking idea for a new thread on a United website, immediately after a couple of disheartening defeats, I'm sure you'll all agree.
 
I'm going to ban the next poster who isn't a mod or admin putting up shite in here.

Ummm...Jopub excluded.
 
Hey Jo I wouldn't complain too much

I was banned once not because I had posted anything but because Arsenal had beaten United

And it was for a week

I am off up to OT Saturday so expect a week's enforced silence from me if we win

If we lose, then I will be slagged off if I FAIL to appear immediately after for disappointing the manc hordes and depriving them of the opportunity to crow and take the piss

A fickle lot, methinks
 
Jopub - You can have no complaints. Wind-up or not, it was a stupid thread to post, and your point(s) weren't well made. Considering the forum you are posting on, and the likely reaction you would have faced, the right decision was made, thread deletion.

Along with that, you received a warning from a Moderator, almost 20 minutes had passed since you then re-posted the thread. Fair enough, you might not have checked your pm's, that's your fault though. When a thread is deleted, and you've been here long enough to know they don't just randomly disappear, then you can assume it's for a reason. From our point of view, or in this case the person who acted, they can't know that you didn't read them, and given the time lapse, safely assumed you had ignored it. Given the nature of your thread, that line of reasoning isn't too hard to believe.

What makes it worse is your reaction here, there's clear factors as to why this happened, you could have pieced it together yourself, especially after logging back in and reading the PM's, it doesn't take a genius to work out what's happened here.

Still, the lesson from this isn't that moderators hate you, and want to punish you irrespective of what you do, but that sometimes it's not wise to take the piss on a forum that won't allow it. Rivals supporters are welcomed here, we know it wouldn't be as good without them, don't fool yourself into thinking we do this for fun. But, when you come here and post such a reactionary thread, just collectively saying 'Fking Utd' 'Biggest fkin whingers' etc over and over, what the hell did you expect? A list of posters saying, yes, we are all moaners...Come off it. What a silly thread, not to mention it's incorrect given that we banned a press response prior to the game, which disputes pretty much your entire thread right there. Your thread is one big slag fest against United for various reasons, what on earth you hoped to achieve here is completely beyond me, frankly I think the reaction had that thread stayed open, would have been worse then a 2-day ban.

A bit of common sense at a number of stages could have seen this entire thing avoided.
 
Worst thing is you get a big black pop up in the top right corner when you get a pm... hmmm
 
He should think himself lucky I got banned forever from a Gooner forum for asking why so many Arsenal players wore gloves !
 
Hey Jo I wouldn't complain too much

I was banned once not because I had posted anything but because Arsenal had beaten United

And it was for a week

I am off up to OT Saturday so expect a week's enforced silence from me if we win

If we lose, then I will be slagged off if I FAIL to appear immediately after for disappointing the manc hordes and depriving them of the opportunity to crow and take the piss

A fickle lot, methinks

To be fair you would expect that in a rival fans forum.

You are hardly gonna get a pat on the back and threads of "Yesss Arsenal won today!"

If you want to walk into the hornets nest...you gotta live with rules like the rest of us and not stir it up to get a moral highground in another forum :nono:
 
Jopub - You can have no complaints. Wind-up or not, it was a stupid thread to post, and your point(s) weren't well made.

Everyone has an opinion and thats only right but you're telling me a ban was put on somebody that had 'not made their points very well'!? If that's the case how many threads are there put up like that on here every day and how many posters would be banned for it if that's the criteria? You would nt have a website would you if that was the case?

Considering the forum you are posting on, and the likely reaction you would have faced, the right decision was made, thread deletion.

It was in the football forum not the utd one whats wrong with that then?

Along with that, you received a warning from a Moderator, almost 20 minutes had passed since you then re-posted the thread. Fair enough, you might not have checked your pm's, that's your fault though. When a thread is deleted, and you've been here long enough to know they don't just randomly disappear, then you can assume it's for a reason.

Well here's the crux Hectic, I received no such warning as I've proved by showing above that the messages he sent were never opened, not then not now. There was never any 20 minutes or 18 minutes. I put up the thread, noticed a few minutes later it did not go on and made another one within 5 minutes at most, probably in fact about 3 minutes. Obviously in that time he had posted his message but by then I could'nt open them as I was banned. If he'd said 'check your mail' I would have and got the damn thing. As it was he saw and deleted the first post, sent off a message then saw the 2nd one a few minutes later and fking banned me straight away

From our point of view, or in this case the person who acted, they can't know that you didn't read them, and given the time lapse, safely assumed you had ignored it. Given the nature of your thread, that line of reasoning isn't too hard to believe.
There was hardly any time lapse - a few minutes

What makes it worse is your reaction here, there's clear factors as to why this happened, you could have pieced it together yourself, especially after logging back in and reading the PM's, it doesn't take a genius to work out what's happened here.

No it doe'snt take a genius you're right. I did'nt look at them which proves they were never opened in the first place hence I never got any message


Still, the lesson from this isn't that moderators hate you, and want to punish you irrespective of what you do, but that sometimes it's not wise to take the piss on a forum that won't allow it. Rivals supporters are welcomed here, we know it wouldn't be as good without them, don't fool yourself into thinking we do this for fun. But, when you come here and post such a reactionary thread, just collectively saying 'Fking Utd' 'Biggest fkin whingers' etc over and over, what the hell did you expect? A list of posters saying, yes, we are all moaners...Come off it. What a silly thread, not to mention it's incorrect given that we banned a press response prior to the game, which disputes pretty much your entire thread right there. Your thread is one big slag fest against United for various reasons, what on earth you hoped to achieve here is completely beyond me, frankly I think the reaction had that thread stayed open, would have been worse then a 2-day ban.

A bit of common sense at a number of stages could have seen this entire thing avoided.

That thread reflected accurately on what the whole press in this country was saying on Monday. It was in the football forum so....

People getting offended by a derogatory remarks about a football club! - ffsakes. Somebody, a grown fking responsible adult actually saw it and thought 'bastard, I'll fkin 'ave 'im' 'saying terrible terrible things about my football club'

Jesus wept
 
To be fair you would expect that in a rival fans forum.

You are hardly gonna get a pat on the back and threads of "Yesss Arsenal won today!"

If you want to walk into the hornets nest...you gotta live with rules like the rest of us and not stir it up to get a moral highground in another forum :nono:

Yeah but you're assuming the rules are the same for everybody are'nt you.
 
Yeah but you're assuming the rules are the same for everybody are'nt you.

Well they are. Do you feel you are treated differently?

I wonder what sort of response i would get if went into a chavvy text speak rant on an Arsenal forum?

"FK u gooners r al fkin piss, wenger doesnt c it. Sm ol Arse always chting."

I think had you logically put an argument together, prompting debate...rather than a personalised chavvy text speak rant which actually took me longer to read than try and realise the point you were making.

Mods don't infract you for no reason. They don't infract you for being an opposing fan either...which sounds like your new spin.
 
It's simple really, we're not infracting spastic rival posters because they're rival posters, we're infracting them because they're spastics.

Just look at Duffer and JazzG, neither have received even a single infraction, and they've both been here since 2004. The reason? They're not spastics.
 
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