Balanced thread regarding the Glazer ownership

Rood said:
Shame that the Red Knights never came up with a serious bid back in 2010 - they said that Glazer was asking too much but in hindsight it was good value as the price of the club has probably doubled since then and thats even in a period with little success
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He did say there were multiple problems with that consortium. One being that their proposal was publicised before they had adopted a tactic, which went global and illustrated even more how big the club was. And it was also a very complex thing to try to do. I guess there are two alternatives for a non-Glazer ownership, one being that we're in the doldrums long enough for the public appeal to sharply decline, which would probably require years and years as we've been shit for almost a decade now and still considered the most valuable sports brand in the world by far. Or they get an outstanding offer from a billionaire.

Even if they've got no interest in the club, in sporting success, in placating supporters, they'd still always enjoy having free money annually and they can always leverage the club further if they're short in the pocket.
 
Bastian said:
He did say there were multiple problems with that consortium. One being that their proposal was publicised before they had adopted a tactic, which went global and illustrated even more how big the club was. And it was also a very complex thing to try to do. I guess there are two alternatives for a non-Glazer ownership, one being that we're in the doldrums long enough for the public appeal to sharply decline, which would probably require years and years as we've been shit for almost a decade now and still considered the most valuable sports brand in the world by far. Or they get an outstanding offer from a billionaire.

Even if they've got no interest in the club, in sporting success, in placating supporters, they'd still always enjoy having free money annually and they can always leverage the club further if they're short in the pocket.
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I'll have a listen to that when I get a chance

I think the very fact it was a consortium rather than 1 person/company was a major problem - getting all parties to agree on anything would not be easy

The way I see it is that Malcolm Glazer had no interest in the club or sporting success at all, he only cared about the money and more or less he left the running of the club to SAF/Gill as he knew it was in safe hands anyway

But after Malcolm's death, I understand Joel Glazer and maybe Avram do actually have some interest, but this turns out to be a negative as they are involved in decision making and the day to day running of the club despite having little knowledge and expertise of football. They made this even worse by picking Woodward to be the one to report to them.

Anyway now Woodward is gone, will be interesting to see if things improve
 
Rood said:
I'll have a listen to that when I get a chance

I think the very fact it was a consortium rather than 1 person/company was a major problem - getting all parties to agree on anything would not be easy

The way I see it is that Malcolm Glazer had no interest in the club or sporting success at all, he only cared about the money and more or less he left the running of the club to SAF/Gill as he knew it was in safe hands anyway

But after Malcolm's death, I understand Joel Glazer and maybe Avram do actually have some interest, but this turns out to be a negative as they are involved in decision making and the day to day running of the club despite having little knowledge and expertise of football. They made this even worse by picking Woodward to be the one to report to them.

Anyway now Woodward is gone, will be interesting to see if things improve
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100%. But we also don't know how things would have panned out had Malcom been around post SAF.

It's definitely worth a listen.
 
Rood said:
The way I see it is that Malcolm Glazer had no interest in the club or sporting success at all, he only cared about the money and more or less he left the running of the club to SAF/Gill as he knew it was in safe hands anyway

But after Malcolm's death, I understand Joel Glazer and maybe Avram do actually have some interest, but this turns out to be a negative as they are involved in decision making and the day to day running of the club despite having little knowledge and expertise of football. They made this even worse by picking Woodward to be the one to report to them.

Anyway now Woodward is gone, will be interesting to see if things improve
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i see this as they simply had to since Fergie left taking care of everything, and maintaining the football club. Once he stepped aside, they could steer it how they wanted to commercialism in a way they couldnt with Fergie in charge
 
Bosws87 said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/s...l-18-resolution-delayed-fan-share-scheme.html

Before the Glazers, United had no debts

United's latest accounts, released in March, showed that net debt had risen to £455.5million, while dividends of just over £23million were paid

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Nothing balanced or positive has come from these leeches.
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On top of the debts of £455.5million, Glazers also took more than £1 billion out of the club through interests payments and dividends. They also sold hundreds of millions of shares for personal use. If these money were invested back into the club or they show more interest running the football side of the club, maybe we could be in much better position?
 
I only just saw this. Pretty clever. Looks the part.

 
I just don't understand the Glazer apologists in our fanbase, it really is quite incredible that there are any. I can't think of a single positive thing about their ownership of our club.
 
Blood Mage said:
I just don't understand the Glazer apologists in our fanbase, it really is quite incredible that there are any. I can't think of a single positive thing about their ownership of our club.
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It's helped me appreciate the time when the cnuts weren't here a lot more. But that's the only one.
 
Blood Mage said:
I just don't understand the Glazer apologists in our fanbase, it really is quite incredible that there are any. I can't think of a single positive thing about their ownership of our club.
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Yeah how can anyone defend these leeches
 
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