Astronomy & Space Exploration

That's a very good point.

Just out of curiosity, are you a believer (like me) that given the scale of the universe and density of stars, that life must almost certainly exist?

Here is a fun little applet that talks you through a study by Kepler: http://exoplanets.newscientistapps.com/ - Every time I see it, my mind is blown!
Obviously, it is a guess what I would say, but yes, I think that there should be a lot of civilizations right there.

Why we haven't meet them yet? Well, there might be many reasons. From that 2000-5000 years which is the period we have a documented history is almost 0 in the time of universe, to aliens being rare and still haven't come here, to FTL not existing, to zoo hypothesis, to aliens have destroyed themselves or to some more bizarre reasons like we're just a simulations and only us are in that simulations.

But on the other side, the universe is really big. There should be a few hundred billions planets in Milky way, a few hundred billions/low trillions galaxies and probably a near infinite number of universes. Even if the possibility of life is very small, still there is such a big number of planets which should result in a very big number of civilizations. I believe that there are a lot of civilizations right there, but then I also think that we really don't understand universe that much, so we'll see.

If there are aliens, a lot will be depended in can we make FTL travelling (or even something near it) in order to meet them. We'll probably know better in a few hundreds/thousands of years.
 
Good job he's not the type to let that go to his head.
 
Cassini Enceladus fly-by raw images:

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More here : http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/?start=1&storedQ=2759047
 
Here's a transcript from an interview with one of the SETI guys looking at that Star with the strange object orbiting around it:

http://otherside.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/OSOM24OCT15Transcript.pdf

What kind of object, how big and how far away, to block twenty percent of the light for eighty days, is that one of these eclipse periods?
Siemion: It is something or some things that are about the size of the star. These are very large objects.
Hoagland: We are talking something that is a million miles in diameter?
Siemion: These are indeed very, very large objects. There were two very significant events in the light curve; one was at an earlier time and one was at the later time. The one at the earlier time, about 800 days into the Kepler mission, is, in and of itself, a very, very strange event. It is asymmetric, it is very deep, it involves a decrease in the flux of the star of about fifteen percent and it appears to be a single monolithic object which has a very, very significant non-spherical character to it that blocks the light from the star very, very slowly over a period of about ten days, and then somehow egresses out of the line of sight between us and the star very, very quickly - in a matter of just a day or two.
The simplest model of it would be something that is shaped like a very narrow triangle. Where as we are watching the star, the point of the triangle passes in front of the star and blocks a little bit of the light, and then very slowly, as the triangle moves across the star, it blocks more and more of the light. Then when the flat-edge of the triangle finally passes out of the line-of-sight between us and the star, there is a dramatic increase in the light of from the star. It happens very, very slowly at first and then a knife-edge at the end.
This is like an isosceles triangle
- a very narrow point that passes in front of the star at first and then the larger edge of the triangle passes away from the star. Again, this is a very, very simple model.

Oh Boy...
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Siemion: If we go another three months to a year and we do not have a satisfactory explanation for what is going on with this star, then it is likely that there would be a dedicated mission, or a dedicated telescope that was specifically designed to follow up on this object. That could be something like a very special purpose successor to Kepler that would only monitor this one star.

We have looked for infrared excess from this star and we do not see any. But it is not clear whether we would see any depending on the amount of the star that is being blocked by these objects and depending on their orientation when we made the observations. What the infrared observations rule out are certain arrangements of dust, so it does not look like there is a protoplanetary disk around the star which is something that adds to the mystery of what we are seeing.

So if we did see some infrared excess with the observations that we have performed, those may be indicative of a disk of dust around the star, but we do not see that.

If these were solar collectors, they may have some infrared excess emissions, but we would not have seen that with the follow-up that we have performed, simply because we do not have the instrumentation available that would allow us to be sensitive to that kind of radiation.

It should probably be pointed out though that the Interviewer here, Richard Hoagland is a massive conspiracy nut and partakes in alot of pseudoscience nonsense.
 
Cassini spots giant ice cloud on Titan:
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As winter sets in at Titan’s south pole, a cloud system called the south polar vortex (small, bright “button”) has been forming, as seen in this 2013 image.
Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/Space Science Institute
NASA's Cassini spacecraft has detected a massive, never-before-seen icy cloud at the south pole of Saturn's huge moon Titan. The newly spotted feature — part of a cloud system known as the south polar vortex — suggests that winter in the southern hemisphere of Titan will be even colder than predicted, scientists said.

The atmospheric signal "looks pretty normal, then BOOM!, increases," indicating the presence of a brand-new cloud, said Cassini participating scientist Carrie Anderson, of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland. "I was so excited, I pretty much fell out of my chair."

Anderson presented the new Cassini results at a news briefing Nov. 11 at the 47th annual meeting of the American Astronomical Society's Division of Planetary Sciences in Oxen Hill, Maryland. She also spoke at the morning session of the conference that day.
http://www.space.com/31161-saturn-moon-titan-ice-cloud.html
 
It's an ethane/methane mix isn't it? So we're down at maybe -180C?

I don't think I'll be holidaying there.

Yep, really really cold; and it might look like polar stratospheric clouds on Earth than refract light at high angles:

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Pretty cool that even a small moon like Titan has its own little 'water' (or should we say hydrocarbon?) cycle.

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This is fairly awesome (bar the irritating CGI bit in the middle)



Up to space and then land 4 feet off the target spot.
 
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A Sound Of 1,100 Decibels Would Create A Black Hole Larger Than The Galaxy

Several months ago, a Reddit user took to the subreddit /r/ELI5 (Explain Like I’m Five) to ask the community about the power of sound. Apparently, a sound of 1,100 decibels would create so much energy, it would act as a immensely high quantity of mass. This would, in turn, create enough gravity to form an extremely large black hole! Larger, in fact, than our observable universe.

However, as user hazar815 explains, this noise would be several orders of magnitude greater than a supernova, so its chances of ever happening are well outside the bounds of reality.

Read several responses to the question below, and try to wrap your head around the concept. I’m sure you’ll have an easier time than I did.

First of a sound of that magnitude would require 1098 watts/meter2 . That is an absolutely insane amount of power, far in excess of what we can produce, and is many of orders of magnitude greater than what a supernova creates. So we don’t have to worry about it actually happening. But, now, how would that create a black hole. By E=mc2. Put enough energy into a small enough area and it would be the equivalent of putting mass in that area, causing immense gravity. With energy as great as 1100 dB, it would create enough gravity to cause a black hole to form, and an incredibly large one at that.

Decibels are a logarithmic unit. That means 20 decibels isn’t 2 times more powerful than 10 decibels, it’s 10 times more powerful. 30 decibels is 10 times more powerful than 20 decibels. 40 decibels is 10 times more powerful than 30 decibels. Each time the decibel number goes up by 10, the power of the sound is multiplied by 10. The number 1100 is like starting with 10 decibels, and adding 10 on 109 times. That means 1100 is 10109 times more powerful than 10 decibels. That is 1 with 109 zeros after. 10 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 times more powerful. I expect a sound wave that strong would have to compress air so dense that the rest mass plus the kinetic energy would mean that the mass of say a metre cubed of air would fall inside it’s own Schwarzschild radius. When a mass of an object is compressed within it’s Schwarzschild radius, the escape velocity required to escape the sphere of matter the compression creates would exceed the speed of light, thus a black hole is formed.

Decibels are not a linear scale. For comparison, if you think going 50 mph is fast, going 100 mph is twice as fast; that’s a linear scale. With Decibels, if you think 80 dB is loud, 83 is twice as loud, and 86 is twice as loud as that! So when you go from a nice normal sound like, say, 50 dB, to 1100 dB you have a difference of 1050 dB. That’s 350 increases of 3 dB, so you’re looking at a difference in energy on the order of 2350times the energy. That’s about 200,000 googol (i.e. 200,000 * 10100; a 2 with 105 zeroes after it). This number is bonkers huge. No physical quantity in the universe is this large using meaningful units. The other thing to note is that mass and energy are intimately related and in many ways interchangeable (see: E = mc2), so if you have enough energy in one place then you effectively have a lot of mass in that location, which can cause a black hole to form. Inside of a black hole, as far as we can tell, there is no difference between mass and energy. So while a sound this loud would cause an unimaginably huge black hole, it would take a nuclear reactor consuming all of the matter of the universe several times over to produce the sound in the first place, so that’s kind of moot. (note: I might have screwed up my math on the energy of a 1100 dB sound; the dB scale scales amplitude, energy content, and perceived loudness at different rates. The general idea is still correct, though).

http://www.youredm.com/2015/10/13/a...create-a-black-hole-larger-than-the-universe/

Wow!
 
Lots and lots of fireworks in space? 4th of July launched from the ISS?
Realistically, that's really cool. Lately I've been thinking how much we've come to understand space in the last decade(or even 3/4 years). The amount of discoveries we've made in this short space of time has been quite amazing.
"As progress gets better, it gets quicker" is something I've heard been said a few times. What do people think of that? Progress in space related research that is...
 
Size comparison between the event horizon of the central black hole of the Phoenix Cluster and our Solar System.

The Phoenix Cluster itself is really interesting too.
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An extraordinary cluster of faraway galaxies is shattering or challenging a number of cosmic records, weighing in as potentially the most massive cluster known.

The colossal galaxy cluster is also the brightest in X-ray light, and the galaxy at its heart apparently gives birth to more than 700 stars per year – hundreds of times as fast as our Milky Way forms stars, researchers say.

The cluster of galaxies, located about 7 billion light-years away, is formally known by the alphabet-soup name of SPT-CLJ2344-4243. Astronomers also have given it a more informal moniker: the Phoenix cluster, named after the constellation in which it resides. It appears to contain thousands of galaxies with a range of sizes, from dwarf galaxies to conglomerations of stars about the size of the Milky Way.

The Phoenix cluster is extraordinarily massive: about 2,000 times the apparent mass of the Milky Way, or 2.5 quadrillion times the mass of the sun.
http://www.space.com/17123-record-breaking-galaxy-cluster-discovered.html

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Saw this picture on Reddit a while ago, perfectly sums up why it's no surprise we haven't been in contact with extra terrestrial life yet:

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Saw this picture on Reddit a while ago, perfectly sums up why it's no surprise we haven't been in contact with extra terrestrial life yet:

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I've seen that before. It's a really incredible picture and goes to show how far away we are from inter galactic travel. The scale is just phenomenal.
 
Saw this picture on Reddit a while ago, perfectly sums up why it's no surprise we haven't been in contact with extra terrestrial life yet:

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Yeah. And if you're talking about hearing back from any civilization that might have detected our signals, you'd have to halve the diameter of the circle and divide the volume of space by 8. I do wonder how weak a typical radio emission from earth might be after traveling so far and how easily it might be detected. Would an alien SETI using radio telescopes like ours be likely to detect our signals 100 light years away?
 

NASA is developing a first-ever robotic mission to visit a large near-Earth asteroid, collect a multi-ton boulder from its surface, and redirect it into a stable orbit around the moon.

Once it’s there, astronauts will explore it and return with samples in the 2020s. This Asteroid Redirect Mission (ARM) is part of NASA’s plan to advance the new technologies and spaceflight experience needed for a human mission to the Martian system in the 2030s.

NASA has identified multiple candidate asteroids and continues the search for one that could be redirected to near the moon in the 2020s. Since the announcement of the Asteroid Initiative in 2013, NASA’s Near-Earth Object Observation Program has catalogued more than 1,000 new near-Earth asteroids discovered by various search teams. Of those identified so far, four could be good candidates for ARM. Scientists anticipate many more will be discovered over the next few years, and NASA will study their velocity, orbit, size and spin before deciding on the target asteroid for the ARM mission.

The Asteroid Redirect Mission is one part of NASA’s Asteroid Initiative. The initiative also includes an Asteroid Grand Challenge, designed to accelerate NASA’s efforts to locate potentially hazardous asteroids through non-traditional collaborations and partnerships. The challenge could also help identify viable candidates for ARM.

NASA plans to launch the ARM robotic spacecraft at the end of this decade. The spacecraft will capture a boulder off of a large asteroid using a robotic arm. After an asteroid mass is collected, the spacecraft will redirect it to a stable orbit around the moon called a “Distant Retrograde Orbit.” Astronauts aboard NASA's Orion spacecraft, launched from a Space Launch System (SLS) rocket, will explore the asteroid in the mid-2020s.

Asteroids are left-over materials from the solar system's formation. Astronauts will return to Earth with far more samples than have ever been available for study, which could open new scientific discoveries about the formation of our solar system and beginning of life on Earth.

The robotic mission also will demonstrate planetary defense techniques to deflect dangerous asteroids and protect Earth if needed in the future. NASA will choose an asteroid mass for capture with a size and mass that cannot harm the Earth, because it would burn up in the atmosphere. In addition to ensuring a stable orbit, redirecting the asteroid mass to a distant retrograde orbit around the moon also will ensure it will not hit Earth.

Perhaps most importantly, NASA’s Asteroid Redirect Mission will greatly advance NASA’s human path to Mars, testing the capabilities needed for a crewed mission to the Red Planet in the 2030s.
http://www.nasa.gov/content/what-is-nasa-s-asteroid-redirect-mission
 
SpaceX just launched a Falcon 9 rocket, separated the first stage, and landed the first stage back on earth.

 
SpaceX just launched a Falcon 9 rocket, separated the first stage, and landed the first stage back on earth.


Awesome, they finally did it! Would be fun if there was a mini reusability race between SpaceX and Blue Origin now. Would do wonders to improve ease of access to orbit
 
In before someone says "fake".:wenger:

It is an amazing achievement though!!!!!
It is an absolutely remarkable achievement. To get a rocket to ascend to 100km or so, and then deliver 11 satellites is good, but then the first stage splits, rises a bit higher to lock into it's planned trajectory and then land.
It is arguably the biggest step forward in rocket developments in the last 20 years.
 
We need the Russian or Chinese to compete so our government suddenly have money to fund NASA, they should ask the tax payers if they want to donate from their paycheck like $20 or something and the US government should match the donations.
 
We need the Russian or Chinese to compete so our government suddenly have money to fund NASA, they should ask the tax payers if they want to donate from their paycheck like $20 or something and the US government should match the donations.

We already have to buy rocket engines from the Russians. That's part of the reason there's funding for other companies. We could use the older rockets that still work but they're rather expensive and since no one wants to pay taxes...
 
It is an absolutely remarkable achievement. To get a rocket to ascend to 100km or so, and then deliver 11 satellites is good, but then the first stage splits, rises a bit higher to lock into it's planned trajectory and then land.
It is arguably the biggest step forward in rocket developments in the last 20 years.
why is landing the rocket so important? is it "just" a question of money or is there a deeper reason behind it?
 
why is landing the rocket so important? is it "just" a question of money or is there a deeper reason behind it?
Its cost mostly but also means stuff down the line in relation to Mars. Ie taking off from Mars after Landing with a powerful rocket.

The cost bit is the big bit. It's about 60m to launch and 200000 for fuel. Having a first stage that can be reused is great as it'll bring down the cost. Currently the older companies in the industry never innovated, keeping the launch price high. It could be catalyst to cause the industry to become innovative and look for ways to make it cheaper or be left behind