I remember how in Viking times they would climb giant cubes in the sky to reveal memories. Disgraceful that they would have a black samurai.
Gaming Assassin's Creed: Shadows
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2 and Brotherhood were both fantastic and built on the first one really well. The first one had a ridiculously limited gameplay loop that really needed fleshing out.
Yeah, I have to admit it amused me when years later people were suddenly talking about the original Assassin's Creed as somehow pure, and how everything from then onwards was bloat - including AC2. I remember very clearly the discourse around it at the time being that it was good fun, and a great idea, but that AC2 expertly expanded on it and took it from a fun concept to a fantastic game.
We already knew that. Look at his username, the victim wasn't a local.
Exactly. The first one quickly became a chore because it was so samey, and 2 and Brotherhood were clearly better games. I’ll also fight anybody who doesn’t like Ezio as a protagonist.
100%
Also, one of my favourite chill-inducing video game moments was when Ezio comes across the projection of Minerva and she starts talking past him to Desmond. That shit caught me off-guard
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Hell, the Ezio games even had the best trailers! Particularly Brotherhood and Revelations. The hype was incredible.
I'll give this one a chance, but I'm in no way hyped for it. The setting is cool, and it's nice to see they are looking into how to innovate in it again, which is something they always used to try and do. The last few games have been tedious muck, though, really. Odyssey I actually put hundreds of hours into and somewhat enjoyed it for what it is, but its without doubt a pretty flawed game. Valhalla I had high hopes for, but they managed to absolutely ruin the combat which was nowhere close to Odyssey. Mirage looked absolutely awful to me, and that's as a fan of the old-style games. I just wish Ubisoft would figure out that exploration is key if you are going to make an exciting open world. Ditch the map markers and have faith in your player base that they will uncover the mysteries by themselves. Ubisoft are still fantastic at making beautiful open worlds, but they just lack any creativity in how to fill the spaces.
Yeh they were top class trailers! I loved AC2 and Brotherhood, just brilliant games led by one of the best protagonists in gaming.
Actually, AC has always had great trailers. I never played Unity and I've yet to give Valhalla a good try (I heard they fixed Unity eventually, so I am planning to play both of them), but they had good trailers too.
The series has never clicked with me. When it first landed the concept sounded interesting and the whole cloaked protagonist walking / parkouring through streets blending in and performing looked cool. But beyond the surface level stuff, it was never a game that truly wowed me - even in its supposedly golden period. Plus the animus stuff was genuinely stupid.
The newer games have the same flaws the series always did but basically added a problem to outweigh them all - bloat. With Vallhala being added to PS plus I was tempted to go back to it but the sheer scale (of generic content) is such a huge put off for me.
The newer games have the same flaws the series always did but basically added a problem to outweigh them all - bloat. With Vallhala being added to PS plus I was tempted to go back to it but the sheer scale (of generic content) is such a huge put off for me.
The transitions and direction of the Origins trailer was one of the very best. The Cleopatra chess piece into Caesar on battlefield transition was so damn good.
The combat was my own fault tbh, went in expected the same as other ACs (hadn't played origins or odyssey by this point) and the new combat was rough for me to get into as it just felt jarring to me. Once I realised it's a whole new thing it was fine. It was all down to combat why I hated it at first.
I actually think I hate most games to start with as hate getting used to new controls and mechanics, and the slow tutorial parts.
I'm rather impatient.The combat was my own fault tbh, went in expected the same as other ACs (hadn't played origins or odyssey by this point) and the new combat was rough for me to get into as it just felt jarring to me. Once I realised it's a whole new thing it was fine. It was all down to combat why I hated it at first.
I actually think I hate most games to start with as hate getting used to new controls and mechanics, and the slow tutorial parts.
Ah, that explains that! I played Origins, and actually found it a refreshing change from the old AC formula. But by Valhalla they definitely just expect you to immediately get it.
That’s a strange take given the typical complaint about their games is that there is too much content/things to do.
"Rush job" was a fair complaint in the post AC3-era, when they were releasing them on a yearly basis. Unity in particular was panned for being a buggy mess. But Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla are most definitely not rush jobs.
Can't believe I'm saying this, but to Ubisofts credit they were too ambitious in trying to realise their vision of Unity. Not a lot is made of this, but there isn't a single game out there in the gaming world that comes even close to what Unity did in terms of crowd density. It's absolutely phenomenal.............or at least would have been if they weren't trying to do more than the PS4 could handle. It was spectacularly overambitious, but for reference, look at Paris for crowd density. Nothing like it before, and still nothing like it now.
That's impressive, but how "real" are those NPCs? Hitman Blood Money did this in 2006 by making most of them very basic AIs.
I watched a video a while back but the AC:Unity NPCs are running mini-scripts, so, they're not just wandering around, but performing actions relative to the context of the scene.
The Ghosts of Tsushima clone gets released next month. Apparently Ubisoft have gone hard to try and replicate this but it’s not convincing most.
I am still playing Black Flag once in awhile. What a game!
Loved Odyssey and Valhalla for 2 of the most recent games, especially the former with Ancient Greece being a favourite historical period of mine. Couldnt for the life of me tell you the latest without searching it up, even more forgettable than Unity or Syndicate.
But as its been longer than the normal annual churn of games, I have hope they invested proper time and effort into this.
But as its been longer than the normal annual churn of games, I have hope they invested proper time and effort into this.
Will probably get this. I played the early AC games but avoided the rest aside from Valhalla which I did enjoy mostly but it was far too beefy and that became tiring.
Have become a bit obsessed with feudal Japan though through anime and other games so want to give this a shot.
Have become a bit obsessed with feudal Japan though through anime and other games so want to give this a shot.
Despite open world hiatus, I still want Ubisoft succeed with this or anything for that matter. Their Tom Clancy series were almost always a hit, rather than miss. I do hope they continue making these... but if they keep closing studios due to financial returns, next AC game will probably be set in Tetris universe.
The result will probably be, less games from them, but releasing any tripple A these day is risk on it's own, so... I guess they didn't destroyed Rayman franchise just yet, but that multiplayer pirate game, whatever it was called was beginning of the end.
I enjoyed Odyssey as well, but played it super casual so I’m never close to finish endless open world games nor do I regret it. And since you‘ve mentioned Syndicate: wouldn‘t mind one in a steam punk universe.
Odyssey is great, as is Origins. I didn't play Valhalla because for some reason the gameplay videos didn't make it appealing. Hopefully Shadows is good.
I would give it a go if you have nothing to play. It's got a different feel to both Origins and Odyssey, with a cool map imo.
However, no chance to complete it before Shadows, it's huge.
It's unlikely that I play Valhalla anytime soon and I won't purchase Shadows until it's severely discounted. Ubisoft stole my tokens a few years ago and I won't purchase anything full price from them, 15€ and under.
Really looking forward to this, i'm a big fan of the AC games.
Came out last night, played a bit today. Loving it. A bit too stop start with a lot of cut scenes in the prologue but the world is lovely as always for these games, and I'm really enjoying the combat. Forgot it was an assassin's creed game at the beginning until I got the hidden blade and was like oh yeah, this whole thing. Really enjoying every bit of it so far I have to say.
Completely agree!
Love the the NPCs now look up as well when searching for you – so even on rooftops you have to keep out of sight, whereas in previous games you pretty much became invisible as soon as you climbed.
And the world itself look stunning.
Careful.
The ShillUp gang will be in here soon to tell you why you should hate it.
I recommend playing it on expert stealth and difficulty and on immersion mode with the Japanese/Portuguese. The voice acting is considerably better.
What’s the combat like? I hated it in the last one. Ac3 probably had the best combat
Yep it's not super hard to expert but you have to properly fight them and can't just slash away at everyone. Just makes it better. Also removed a lot of the HUD graphics which at first are everywhere. A few settings and you get a much cleaner and better experience.