Di Maria puts in brilliant crosses. His form hasn't been great but his delivery from wide areas is not one of his faults.
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Di Maria puts in brilliant crosses. His form hasn't been great but his delivery from wide areas is not one of his faults.
There is no way that he has been better than Rooney and Blind (Di Maria, Mata and Herrera have been easily beter than him too). Heck, for most of the season he hasn't been even a starter (if I am not mistaken he has started only 13 games or so). He has a single goal and no assists.
He has certainly been the most improved player, but not near the best overall player. I think that him improving this much has been a total (pleasent) surprise and so people are exageratting his actual performances.
Young has played well pretty much every single time he's played for us this season. The fact that yesterday was one of his poorer games, and yet he still scored, says a lot. In contrast Di Maria has been absolute garbage for about half a season, Herrera has been about as good (but played less games), Blind I'd have 3rd - because he's been largely good - though a few games, particularly away from home, he's been really poor (but people are more lenient with him because they like him - which is understandable)... Rooney has the stint in Midfield working against him (Rooney as only a forward would definitely be 2nd), and Mata has disappeared in as many games that he has shown up for (though in general, he makes us play a lot better).
Young has played well almost all the time, and often been excellent. He's the player who has most comfortably adapted to whatever system LVG's been playing, and would have had way more assist if Falcao wasn't a bit shit.
No, to be fair you're correct with that. He does indeed. These two are where that seems to end mind.
And yet he has 14 goals/assists, compared to Young's 3 goals/assists. I agree that Di Maria has been bad for many games, but he has been extremely productive. Same can be said for Mata and Herrera (especially for the later who has been good in pretty much every game and has contributed in a lot of goals and assists). Then RVP who has been bad but then again has won us many points.
Young despite generally being good, hasn't been that productive. I don't see how a winger who has 1 goal and 2 assists can be in consideration for player of the season or anything like that.
For me it is:
1 - 10. De Gea
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12. Rooney
13. Blind
14. Di Maria
15. Herrera
16. Mata
17. Van Persie (despite that I have been speaking bad for him this season)
18. Young
19. Fellaini
20. Rojo
Edit: the fact that I have Young and Fellaini in top 10 (top 20 depending on point of view) explains pretty well how much they have improved on my opinion. Last year for example, I would have had those two on top 5 worst performers.
Agree with all of that.
After his last (very good) performance I remember noticing the commentator saying he hadn't scored in over a year and being sure that he would break his duck soon. Kind of mad that he does so in probably his worst individual performance of the season but that's football.
He's definitely been one of our best and most consistent players this season.
Well, Young has played more games as a wingback than a winger, but I digress... Players can have a really good game of football without scoring or assisting. Take the Sunderland game for example - Young was our MOTM, despite not getting either - that doesn't make his performance bad.
Yes he could be more productive in terms of goals (though generally its not easy for wingbacks to get on the scoresheet) and assists (which he should have more of, but again - we've had many goals come from moves that have started down his side of the pitch, and he would have had more had our strikers not been a bit garbage - he's put numerous dangerous balls in the box across the season) - but football isn't all about assists and goals - its about performances, and as I said, Young has been very good in pretty much every game he's played.
Yeah, Di Maria has a ton of assists - but come on, he's been absolutely atrocious in a lot of games, I don't see how anyone could put him above Young just due to the numbers he's put up.
I generally give a lot of value to goals/assists because at the end of the day they win points for the team. Young yesterday was arguably the worst player until he scored the goal, but the truth is that without that goal we would have won 1 instead of 3 points. So in that aspect - all things considered - he was probably our second best player (after De Gea who kept us in game and then later didn't let Newcastle equalize).
Di Maria has been quite poor for some time, but he has contributed a lot in terms of goals/assists which have won us points. Even yesterday, despite him being poor he made a fantastic pass to Fellaini which should have resulted in a goal, an another fantastic pass to Rooney which ended in a goal but incorrectly rules offside and the pass to Valencia which created a good chance. This has been the story of the second half of the season for him.
Not great, but he's contributing. On an another day he would have had 2 assists on yesterday's performance.
Anyway, regardless of where we put Young he has been a pleasent surprise and has been decent this year.
Does anyone know what Ashley Young looks like with hair?
I was picturing more of a Welbeck fro. That's not nearly as long or as funny as I'd hoped
Looks more like Dot Rotten.
You have got to be joking. His success rate with crosses is awful. He cant cross with his left foot and when he does it very very rarely finds a player. 90% of the time he tries to cut in on to his right foot to cross which in turn slows everything down and strikers have to check their runs. As a consequence most of his crosses never hit a player.
I've always wondered what Gabrielle was up to these days.
Now thats what I was hoping for!Have you been watching United play this season? Ashley Young has cleared the ball off the line, played as a LB,RB,WB,Winger, he has won games for us with his performances, he has scored a winner... i am by no means over-reacting, it is what it is - DDG is obviously the best player in the team, but when it comes to outfield players - no United player has contributed more to the team than Ashley Young and i say this as someone who was calling for him to be axed prior to our pre-season campaign, "not even top 3 players this year" are you sure? there are three guys in THIS United team that have contributed more to the team THIS season than Ashley Young?
More than three.
Anyway, discussed this with AN! already so I am not planning to repeat myself.
RVP over Young? lol, yeah i think its best we don't elaborate this might take all week
rooney is one , blind is another , and rojo is another. dave the save is POTY. that's 4 so i'd agree with you. RVP has scored goals for wins as has ADM and even falcao has match winners. he got a lucky pass from the keeper and slotted it into an open net. when pressured he smashed it into the keeper. not united quality and never was.
Really giving his all, really trying to create, really trying to get at players when he can. Can't really say anything bad about him at the moment.
Another good positive that I have not seen mentioned too much is that he seems to have cut out the pathetic diving.
Interestingly Van Gaal says on the official site that he sees Young's best position as a wing back.
He does but no one seems to ever reads his crosses, or our movement is terrible. He makes a few excellent far post crosses each game and a good near post one yesterday but there was just nobody there.
I would say he's been our most threatening attacking player this season when he has played.
Yup, he stops diving in the season we need penalties....just our luck
Miguel Delaney has an article up featuring Young: http://www.espnfc.com/club/manchest...oung-a-reflection-of-manchester-united-season
Damn, thanks for the reminder. I've been slipping on Dot, massively underrated or as he would say, underestimated. Seems like he is just going to produce now though.
You're saying that you would have preferred if he would have continued diving?
Truthfully, I wouldn't mind a nice little dive at Anfield to get us a pen.
Young has been brilliant this year and was instrumental in that run of wins before Christmas that set us up for a top 4 spot. As I remember it, he got injured and we lost the next game didn't we?
Single handedly made the 352 look good.
Single handedly made the 352 look good.
Playing for his next contract, which hopefully isn't here.
really? brilliant? i hope another manager feels the same way and we off load him for 10m.
I'm not saying i would have preferred him to continue, i'm just saying on the last day of the season when we are tied at 1-1 with Hull city and 5th on the table with 15 minutes to go and Ashley Young somehow manages to trip and fall and get a penalty which Rooney converts with ensures a top 4 spot, I would be able to understand how he could "trip" under such conditions - the human body is too complex to understand, plus we can discuss what happened and condemn/praise his actions in a bar on a tuesday night watching a group stage game away at Olympiakos
Has anyone ever played Young on the right side of midfield?
If anyone's disputing that Young's been in our top 3 outfield players this season, then that person hasn't seen our matches at all this season. The lad's been a revelation inspite of him not playing in his natural position for most of the season.
He is doing well, there is no doubt about that. However a lot of it has to do with the fact that our standards and our general play is so bad that it isn't too difficult to stand out in our current side.
Man Utd 1:2 Arsenal
Not a great game from him tonight but you can't fault his workrate for the team, he helped his fullback out a lot more than Di Maria did.
Surprised the ref didn't try and send him off for kicking out at Ramsey.
So so pointless. Wonder what sir alex was thinking when he got him in.
Nothing worked for him today, could barely get a decent cross in all game.
People are actually criticising him? Seriously? He's done very little wrong this season and has put far more effort in than many of the so called superstars.
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