Absolutely brilliant stuff by Johnson. Scary, scary stuff.
Ashes II - 2013/14 - In Australia
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Need to catchthe highlights of Johnson spell, sounds like one of the great spells of all time.
Sachin said Oz would win the Ashes if Johnson played, guess he knew something others did not.
Need to catchthe highlights of Johnson spell, sounds like one of the great spells of all time.
Sachin said Oz would win the Ashes if Johnson played, guess he knew something others did not.
This is even more devastating than South Africa in 2009. Why, oh why can't you always be like this, Mitch?
Its taken a long time for johnson to reach this level again since he's injuries, when he's on this form you seriously worry for the batsmen. Quality stuff.
Warner has been in great nick these ashes, finally fulfilling his potential.
Warner has been in great nick these ashes, finally fulfilling his potential.
The question on everyone's lips.
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Need to catchthe highlights of Johnson spell, sounds like one of the great spells of all time.
Sachin said Oz would win the Ashes if Johnson played, guess he knew something others did not.
He's been watching him closely with MI...can probably recognise true class when he sees it, especially from such surprising quarters.
This is embarrassing now but you have to give credit where its due, Johnson has been a machine so far.
What I don't understand though is how everyone who has looked at this track has said it is a road and we are struggling as much as we are! Yes Mitchell Johnson has bowled superbly but do we have no backbone whatsoever!?
Its time for a complete shake up of the squad after this series, far too many players in the squad based on reputation.
I don't see anyway back in the series now as I cant see us winning 2 of the last 3 tests but I would like to see at least a little bit of fight and pride.
What I don't understand though is how everyone who has looked at this track has said it is a road and we are struggling as much as we are! Yes Mitchell Johnson has bowled superbly but do we have no backbone whatsoever!?
Its time for a complete shake up of the squad after this series, far too many players in the squad based on reputation.
I don't see anyway back in the series now as I cant see us winning 2 of the last 3 tests but I would like to see at least a little bit of fight and pride.
Should have listened to Geoffrey - he said go to bed at 1am.
The way Mitchell Johnson is bowling is just unbelievable. He's unplayable. No batsman in the world stands a chance against him on this form. This is some of the best genuine fast bowling I've ever seen. The Aussies are an average side really, but Mitchell Johnson is just from another universe at this moment. The rest of the team is feeding of that and their confidence is high. But their top order batting is suspect.
As for England, they're fecked this Ashes. If Johnson stays fit the chances are we'll lose the series 5-0. I think England are in transition. Nowadays there are a lot of talented young English players coming through, which is very different from the bad days pre 2000's. I've been saying this for a couple of years now.
Some of the current squad seem past their best. After this Ashes it'll be time for England to make some hard decisions & courageous with the future in mind. So I'm a lot more optimistic about the England cricket team then I am, for example, with the England football team.
As for England, they're fecked this Ashes. If Johnson stays fit the chances are we'll lose the series 5-0. I think England are in transition. Nowadays there are a lot of talented young English players coming through, which is very different from the bad days pre 2000's. I've been saying this for a couple of years now.
Some of the current squad seem past their best. After this Ashes it'll be time for England to make some hard decisions & courageous with the future in mind. So I'm a lot more optimistic about the England cricket team then I am, for example, with the England football team.
Johnson's bowling very well, but 'some of the best fast bowling ever'? Give it a rest.
He's being made to look like it by sheer incompetence from the England lot, who have been embarrassing, shameful and incompetent.
He's being made to look like it by sheer incompetence from the England lot, who have been embarrassing, shameful and incompetent.
England batsmen must be shitting themselves at what Johnson might do at Perth if he's causing this much damage in Adelaide.
Exactly. This was a flat track and he was literally unplayable. Generating that pace and moving the ball as well, and the snorters every now and then. It was great to watch, really.
If he continues the same, Perth is going to be mental!
If he continues the same, Perth is going to be mental!
Aye. Easy to blame the batsmen but genuine pace complimented with swing will trouble 90% of the batsmen.
Mate, he's bowling every ball 92-95mph accurate wicket to wicket on relatively hard & bouncy wickets. Can you imagine what its like? Every single batsman in the world would be shitting their pants. You don't get better & more destructive bowling than this. The only chance you have as opposition is to have fast bowlers who can do the same.
If you can bowl 150km, then you can trouble any batsman regardless of the pitch.
That's why I think Finn should've been playing for England.
That's why I think Finn should've been playing for England.
Even as an England fan I have to say it's great to watch. There's nothing better than watching genuine world class aggressive fast bowling.
Regardless, he's absolutely playable. I don't think he's ever looked like threatening Carberry, Root looked comfortable against him until he threw his wicket away to Lyon and Bell was also comfortable.
This is about poor batting from Cook (who tbf played him well last test), Pietersen and the massive tail (Stokes at 6
looked clueless) as much as it is Johnson. I mean, look through his wickets this series, how many are genuine world class deliveries that would get anyone out and how many are stupid shots?Yes, it is hard, but it's test cricket and England just aren't responding to the challenge.
Regardless, he's absolutely playable. I don't think he's ever looked like threatening Carberry, Root looked comfortable against him until he threw his wicket away to Lyon and Bell was also comfortable.
This is about poor batting from Cook (who tbf played him well last test), Pietersen and the massive tail (Stokes at 6
Yes, it is hard, but it's test cricket and England just aren't responding to the challenge.
Root & Carberry survived Johnson him, that was all. The problem is as soon as Australia get to England's non specialist batsmen, the chances are that Johnson is going to blow them away each & every time. You can't really blame the likes of Broad & Swann not being able to handle Johnson's bowling.
Carberry looks a class act, Root is a very talented prospect and Bell is probably the best batsman in the world at the moment. So it's not all doom & gloom for England. If I had my say I'd bring in Sam Robson & Tymall Mills, They're both clearly very talented indeed. But England won't do that, not this winter anyway...
Could be 5-nil this, we're all over the shop. ghaliboy's Johnson prediction
If all you can do is survive then thats fine, survive him and make hay against Siddle, Lyon and Harris. Johnson can't bowl long spells at that speed (no one can) but the truth is he still does bowl enough bad balls that you can have the presence of mind to put them away whilst you're surviving.
It's just been pathetic so far, absolutely atrocious. Bell and Carberry probably aside from criticism they've just thrown in the white towel, England teams of the past (containing far lesser players) have acquitted themselves better against some of the best pacers the game has ever seen than this record breaking lot have against Mitchell Johnson.
They need to have a word, you can not simply use the excuse that it's too difficult it's the pinnacle of the sport it's supposed to be a scrap.
In fact, I think the talk of Johnson is a bit of a misnomer. The game was lost during the morning session when Johnson did absolute dick. Root and Pietersen both threw their wickets away to innocuous bowling in horrific ways and Carberry, admittedly responding to growing pressure, really didn't need to play that shot off Watson.
It's stupidity, as much if not more so than Johnson, that's cost England the last two matches. They've just mentally not been up for it.
I agree 100% with this, Mitchell Johnson is an extremely good bowler and is in top form at the moment but we have too many batsmen in poor form making very poor shot selections.
In all honesty we have made this easy for them.
When a side is under pressure, chasing 500+ runs, batting becomes more difficult. Add the Johnson factor and you can see where it's going wrong. For Perth I'd bring in Robson (not realistic probably) & Ballance. They were the 2 best batsman in county cricket last summer, which included many a international world class batsman.
Of course it does, but why should that excuse them? Most of the top order wickets from last night were due to innocuous bowling and stupid shots, it was only when Stokes (who looked out of his depth) came in that Johnson had an impact and by that point, imo, the game was already lost.
As for Robson and Ballance, I think Ballance would have played if the pitch didn't look flat but I could see them protecting him now until the summer, no point bringing him in and getting bruised up in a 5-0 whitewash. As for Robson, I'm throwing him in in the Tymal Mills category, too soon for me, get them both another county season (in Mills' case that is A county season, he's hardly even a regular for Essex) under their belt and stencil them in for the 2015 tour of the West Indies.
In the mean time, stop fecking around with Steven Finn just get him bowling fast and hostile spells, ridiculous how badly managed he's been.
He has always had pace but the discipline he has found has made him into the player Aussies always hoped he'd been. What I really like is that he has shown some inner strength after being written off as a test player by many.
Yeah I suspect it's because of his action. Love his moustache by the way.
It was Movember. Now that it is December there is no excuse.
He's gone all Lillee. Now, he had a tash.
Shocking performance by England. It's almost like they've give up on this series.
Not sure Cook is coping with being captain any more. What was he thinking? We've been atrocious in these matches so far and I don't see it getting better, something needs to be changed here.
For feck's sake just switched over 1 for fecking 1
The thing is, the openers have been poor for a while, bar say Bell and Pietersen on occasion. The middle order/tail is what has been bailing us out and now players like Prior and Broad are having patchy innings with the bat, we're looking even more exposed. But who do you give the captaincy to so Cook can concentrate on his batting? Anderson?
England just don't play positive enough IMO. Look at Root and Carberry again. No intent at all. It allows the bowlers to get some rhythm.
This isn't the best Aussie batting lineup but they've beaten England by being positive and not letting the bowlers get on top.
This isn't the best Aussie batting lineup but they've beaten England by being positive and not letting the bowlers get on top.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaa
I officially give up on sport.
What a terrible week to be a United supporting cricket fan.
I officially give up on sport.
What a terrible week to be a United supporting cricket fan.
Nothing going England's way. Not going to be our series.
20-2
We're getting utterly pummelled!
We're getting utterly pummelled!
This is where some patronising Australian media crew must remark how 'bad for the game' it is to see such a one-sided contest!
Hmmm, flicking through the TV guide sexcetera is on Living.
I think that's probably a better choice.
I think that's probably a better choice.
NO ROOT DONT feckING PRACTICE THE SLOG SWEEP BAD BOY.
Pietersen is going to get out to Smith.