I used to confuse him with Isco
Asensio
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I’d only get him on loan only if Greenwood doesn’t come back. He could be a decent backup player.
I agree, and he’s a better player than Antony.A world away from signing shite like Dan James.
Is he better than Jarrod Bowen?
He wont comeback. His United career is in the bin.
For £10m it might be a good signing. For actual proper money it would likely be terrible.
People need to accept that Greenwood will not be coming back. It would be disastrous to the club if he did.
Already have done
Antony is a huge gamble for the prices being thrown about. Not sold on him at all. His play acting is said to be terrible too.
All that depends on the outcome surely? I honestly can't see him being sold or let go if he's found innocent. If he isn't then of course it's all over for him.
Johnny Depp is the perfect example of how you can't jump the gun. Let the courts do their jobs.
Gut feeling is Antony is the top target in this position, feel we may look at this guy if we can't get him.
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Yep don’t like the definitive posts on here. Trial by social media at its finest. Just wait for the evidence to truly be revealed.
You do know he's a right winger right?
That's absolutely a priority position
He's 26 and has displayed the abilities needed to be a top player. The talent is there a change of scenary, right coaching and he might rediscover his form.
We need reinforcements in 5+ positions its not possible to get the absolute best players out there for every position.
Worth a gamble.
The justice system isn’t foolproof and it’s well known that statistically, rape is one of the most difficult charges to prosecute someone for. Just 1.3% of those accused were prosecuted last year in England and Wales. Regardless of the outcome of Greenwood’s trial, the evidence we’ve seen and heard provide enough of an insight into the type of character he is and I’d be flabbergasted if the club and fans accept him ever coming into this team again.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Money can buy innocence. Doesn't change people's minds.
Everyone heard the recording. If United back him, some sponsors will pull out first of all , they won't want to be associated with that. Domino effect then.
I don't want him apart of the club ever regardless of outcome. Any supporter who wants him back needs to get their head checked.
Whether he's found guilty in a court of law is irrelevant in this case as we've all heard and seen what he's done. No decent person with morals will want to see him in a United shirt ever again
Do you really think the situations are comparable? And would you be able to support MG, and celebrate him scoring goals, after the recordings you’ve heard? I would be devastated if that guy was allowed to play for United again after hearing that stuff.
False equivalency right here and this is why the Johnny depp case is damaging. (Not the case itself but the reaction to it). In sexual abuse cases being found ‘innocent’ usually means there not being enough evidence - it’s an under charged issue. It’s usually hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt for so many different reasons. We all heard the recordings, there is no way he’s playing again, sponsors won’t allow it and frankly I’d stop supporting the club.
Legitimately I think we should have a forum wide ban on even mentioning him because 1, it’s still an active case and 2, it will derail every thread.
Certainly doesn't seem like it. Unfathomable to me that anyone who has would ever utter that vile miscreants name again in connection with playing for United.
For anyone lambasting this potential transfer: Don't forget this was just last year.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/manchester-united-offered-chance-to-sign-vinicius-junior.464250/
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/manchester-united-offered-chance-to-sign-vinicius-junior.464250/
Pretty slick in fairness.
Don’t do this… the voice recordings, pictures are a different level and this hasn’t even gone to trial yet.
His knee injury hampered him, very unlucky there.
But I do not expect RM to sell him, they still need him, with Bale & Isco gone (granted both rarely played), there is not much of numbers
at CF, they have Benzema, & Mariano as backup, Jovic is likely to leave.
at RW, they have Asensio, Rodrygo, and Vasquez who also helps out at RB too
at LW, they has Vini & Hazard.
Mbappe decided to stay with PSG, so if no one else leaves (aside from Jovic), then Asensio will be an important option for RM, unless they have plans to bring in new forwards.
If he is deemed medically healthy and is over his issues from that knee injury, at a low initial fee of (€15M - €20M), then it could be an astute pickup, he has huge qualities and was about to cement a spot in RM's starting lineup had he not been injured in a pre-season game.
But I do not expect RM to sell him, they still need him, with Bale & Isco gone (granted both rarely played), there is not much of numbers
at CF, they have Benzema, & Mariano as backup, Jovic is likely to leave.
at RW, they have Asensio, Rodrygo, and Vasquez who also helps out at RB too
at LW, they has Vini & Hazard.
Mbappe decided to stay with PSG, so if no one else leaves (aside from Jovic), then Asensio will be an important option for RM, unless they have plans to bring in new forwards.
If he is deemed medically healthy and is over his issues from that knee injury, at a low initial fee of (€15M - €20M), then it could be an astute pickup, he has huge qualities and was about to cement a spot in RM's starting lineup had he not been injured in a pre-season game.
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Why do we have courts then?
Like I said.....I'm not saying he's innocent or guilty but let the professionals do their jobs.
Don’t be so silly. You have seen zero evidence to accuse anyone of rape. Just stop it.
It should even be discussed or mentioned.
The main difference here that many that want Asensio doesn't seem to value, is workrate and attitude (which looks to be the key ingredients ETH is looking for). By all accounts Antony is a workhorse in addition to being skillful, whilst Asensio doesn't seem to have what it takes to stop his downward spiral after the serious injuries he has had. In many ways he is similar to Marcus Rashford, who most of us wants out. Add to the fact that he is 26 already and it seems like a dreadful signing on paper.
Been hearing this for months and I don't understand how people still believe this. Without getting into the morality of it, hypothetically if he's not charged and starts playing again, sponsors are not going to leave a multi million dollar profitable venture because 1 out of the 30 very public professionals they employ is a bad apple. Similarly, Old Trafford is not going to be getting empty seats just because Greenwood is playing.
Sure there will be a media furore at the start if he comes back, but it will die down in a few months. I don't know what the situation is with him and what's gonna happen but it's just inaccurate to believe Man Utd will lose sponsors if he is brought back into the fold. Sure, he personally will struggle to become associated with big brands, but it's not going to effect the club all that much.
Zero evidence? I’m assuming you haven’t listened to the video? Or seen the images posted? There’s plenty of evidence, I couldn’t care less what happens in court, he did that shit.
You wasn’t there bro. Non of us was. Stop it.
He’s done out.
We could definatly do with more players that don’t lose the ball so cheaply. We’re horrendous for it. Him, frenkie and Eriksen would be good for that.
As far as wingers are concerned, we don't have anywhere near enough. In fact, we have 3 for two slots (Rashford, Sancho, Elanga). Even if we're keeping Martial, we critically need at least one new player. And Asensio generally plays on the right, which is ideal. Whether he's good enough is a different question I guess. But it would make sense to look for a not-too-pricey option that doesn't necessarily have to be regular starting XI.
We absolutely should be desperate for that position.
I think we do have enough, Amad and Pellistri are to come in yet, yea Asensio is decent and won’t cost a bundle, I just feel we are well stocked in wide positions and DCM, CM and CB are priorities. Still, I’m not going to say know to new faces after the shambles of last season, especially Antony