I'm not talking about losing their job. I'm talking about watching football. A person's job is a whole different matter and linked to their livelihood. Football is entertainment/an outlet. If football is making you depressed, it should be ignored. This is something most don't have the luxury to do with their job.
Are Utd Making You Depressed?
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I dont agree with you on this one! But i respect your way to look at it.
And I didn't say they were aware of that they will go into depression. Most people i met that went into depression are the last people to see it. Most people with an addiction don't know or deny it. So if we are talking about addiction its kind of a different story. And it for sure dont get avay with some emotional intelligens.
I still do believe everybody needs passions. And with passions you get feelings, both ups and downs. Feelings I believe should be allowed to get a bit crazy.
I don't want addicted people who abuse the people close to them, and then go in to depression because they can't handle Ole signing a new contract. But I do want healthy people go crazy when united wins a game!
Reading this thread back and seeing the reaction after United draw or lose and seeing the news ie:- United players being racially abused (that may not be United fans though to be fair), I have to say I've grown to dislike United fans a lot since Sir Alex retired, Liverpool lose and they are not as bad as here when we draw, even when United win this place is depressing with moaners.
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Me too. Our fanbase is, for the most part, the worst thing about this club in recent years
The whole bloody year has been depressing, for everyone, sport is a release from it all, the present climate of Elite sport is basically pants, top athletes thrive on the competition, and no Spectators at any of these top events is making it not worth it.
Can anyone honestly say the EPL has been a joy to watch from your arm chair has the Champonship been the same, I cant wait to see my grandson play on Sunday morning, that's more depressing that anything, perspective is needed, and it's tough, the black dog comes along and its feck it all. But talking helps.
Can anyone honestly say the EPL has been a joy to watch from your arm chair has the Champonship been the same, I cant wait to see my grandson play on Sunday morning, that's more depressing that anything, perspective is needed, and it's tough, the black dog comes along and its feck it all. But talking helps.
Yeah i love Manchester United, it's history, stadium, my history the club (growing up as a kid), but a large number of United's fans lets just say I'm not a fan of.
But i don't need to be a fan of the fans to be a fan of the club, that's the way i look at it.
What does get me down is when our players are swearing angrily at each other during the game and also when they look so pigged off at the end of a match. I don't mind us losing tbh but those things really do get me.
For me it's context. Lots of things make me happy but equally not angry enough to say, racially abuse black players on social media. The number of domestic abuse increases after teams lose. That's what I mean by emotional intelligence and your mental health in my opinion should not be invested in whether your team is playing well or not. Each to their own I guess....
Our fanbase is a fairly typical, run-of-the-mill football fanbase, probably more patient than that of most clubs of similar stature.
Very good point.
The sky is falling down narrative on here and elsewhere after every dodgy result or performance, or even 10 minute period in an otherwise comfortable game gets so tiresome and drags down the enjoyment for me. It's only gotten worse with the proliferation of Twitter. Before then, I could not go on the caf after a loss, say for a night, maybe the day after too if it's a particularly bad one, but still go about my day as normal. Now though with Twitter, which is where a lot of information and breaking news comes from, those bad results seem to linger in the collective memories of the pre-pubescent twats that occupy that media for the full week and it just gets more and more, for want of a better term, debilitating to read.
Matchgoing ones? Definitely.
The online cultists and weirdos? Definitely not.
For extra context: I'm a ST holder counting down the days to when I no longer have to consume my football in the way I'm currently consuming it.
What makes you think other fanbases don't have the exact same type of people you despise? Why would they be any different? Football fans, everywhere, are just people. Their clubs' history and standing informs their expectations, certainly, and there are certain cultural factors at play but by and large I'm fairly sure every single fanbase of clubs of similar standing (this is obviously important: Stalybridge Celtic fans have a very different outlook than Real Madrid fans) is comprised of roughly similar 'sections'.
I think my issue is not so much that Utd's fanbase is exceptionally bad, but that it has shattered the illusions that I had way back when I started on this forum in 2003 as a lurker and then a poster in 2004, that our fanbase was exceptional.
That we would back our own to the hilt and not be spoilt twats like the white hanky brigade at the Bernabeau. I remember the long conversations that would go on, on this forum, about the possibility of SAF leaving and how we as a club and fanbase would handle it. And for the record, I'm not an old-timer, lambasting the kids of today - I was born a year before Fergie took charge, and I only got in to football at the age of 8 or 9 with that 96/97 team.
The ensuing years showed me that those conversations were, for the most part, just hollow words and empty rhetoric. That rather than being cut from a different cloth, that we had just as many idiots as the other big clubs, if not more.
It was disappointing to witness, but in hindsight it probably shouldn't have been.
Well, yes. You summed it up perfectly here. Only thing I'd add is that I don't think any fanbase is exceptional. Maybe there's some tiny little club with only a dozen fans that follow it everywhere or something like that. Once a club is over a certain size, all kinds of people will support it for all kinds of reasons.
Good post. That’s more or less exactly how I feel as well.
I still get a warm glow every time I think about Sundays result and performance. I'm curious to know whether there are fans here that suffer much lower 'lows' when we lose in comparison to the high you feel after a good win?
This. I've yet to experience a game so bad that the reaction on the board wasn't grossly excessive, with lots of imaginary issues added to the real ones. Which means you never really make it to the point where you get to offload your frustration at poor performances - by the time you've read three or four posts, the frustration over the team has been superseded by outrage over absurd fan reaction.
I doubt I’d ever get depressed from watching a game of football. Will always find something to be excited about whilst the game is being played. I still look forward to every game believing we will win. Only thing is I’m always on edge watching United these days but that’s the way a competitive game should be anyway.
Ive learnt to rationalise results as long as we not in a relegation battle. I’d have to admit my guilt, the second season of Jose I did not watch a single game because I was finding myself hoping for us to lose games,. That was poor form from me and felt it was a complete waste of my time going to games/even watching on tv.
Ive learnt to rationalise results as long as we not in a relegation battle. I’d have to admit my guilt, the second season of Jose I did not watch a single game because I was finding myself hoping for us to lose games,. That was poor form from me and felt it was a complete waste of my time going to games/even watching on tv.
Depressed?
We've not been this good since Sir Alex retired, why on earth would you be depressed?
We've not been this good since Sir Alex retired, why on earth would you be depressed?
To be honest I've just become numb to the whole situation. I now don't get the enormous highs I used to with games like the City one but then again I don't get the lows I used to get with the CP game. Football used to consume a large amount of my time. Everything was planned around games and depending on the result depended on my mood for the next couple of days.
Not anymore. Maybe it's because of the pandemia, my priorities have changed, VAR, seeing how the club I've loved for so many years is being systemically ruined after all the hard work SAF put in or just that I'm getting on in years but my interest in football in general has really been put on the back burner. I still watch us of course but those days of planning everything round a United game have well and truly gone.
Bit of a contradiction there no? Its got to be hard to be numb about something and still jump to such a massive overstatement.
I would imagine that getting on in years is a large part of it. There's no doubt that United losing a game of football isn't the catastrophic event in my mind that it was in my early 20's for example. Far easier to shake off because, well, football teams lose football matches sometimes.
Why is it a contradiction? I'm saying win, lose or draw I don't feel anything which would be my definition of numb and I don't think it's a massive over statement to say my interest in football is waining.
It was at a stage where my Mrs would always ask me when we were playing so she could make plans around it knowing I'd never miss a game but not anymore and I have to say it does make my life a lot easier. A chilled life is a happier life. I even get to have a bit of nookie every once in a while now
There’s a lot of strange people in our online fan base. They follow negative people online like that fool RantsnBants, Saeed and that Brent Di Cesare etc. People listen to every word they say even when 99% of it is incorrect then they wonder why they can’t enjoy a football match.
Try and live with someone who is negative about everything all the time and see how it makes you feel. Stop following these muppets on Social media who know absolutely nothing about the game, they’re desperate for bad results to post negativity which gets them more likes and money for their channel. You should never feel like jumping off a cliff over a 0-0 draw at Stamford bridge.
Pissed off for a day? Sure, but depressed, come on..
Try and live with someone who is negative about everything all the time and see how it makes you feel. Stop following these muppets on Social media who know absolutely nothing about the game, they’re desperate for bad results to post negativity which gets them more likes and money for their channel. You should never feel like jumping off a cliff over a 0-0 draw at Stamford bridge.
Pissed off for a day? Sure, but depressed, come on..
Short answer, yes. More so that we havent done anything regarding the total humilliation. I've lost faith that we can turn this around, the board is clearly inept and no matter how low we get it wont change. We are trapped in mediocrity.
We are so bad i just laugh.
What really annoys me is when we used have 20 shots on goal and drop points.
Sometimes as well the luck went against us in the CL under Ferguson. Like the Nani red card against Madrid, got me down. I recall that getting drunk in the pub aftwards just to get over it.
What really annoys me is when we used have 20 shots on goal and drop points.
Sometimes as well the luck went against us in the CL under Ferguson. Like the Nani red card against Madrid, got me down. I recall that getting drunk in the pub aftwards just to get over it.
I've decided I can only laugh and I will choose to avoid watching some games now. They are not worth the energy and emotion right now. The ownership and board do not care so why should we? Enjoy what we can.
Football is a hobby and something I do and a sport I watch to enjoy.
If I start to let this get me down then everything in the world will make me depressed.
It can make me feel fustrated but I wouldn't call It depression.
If I start to let this get me down then everything in the world will make me depressed.
It can make me feel fustrated but I wouldn't call It depression.
Not depressed as depressed is quite severe but definitely the thought of the foreseeable future is bleak and won’t bring much excitement or enjoyment, that’s what is bringing me down.
I don’t think football could ever make me depressed, but it is incredibly deflating and to a point demoralising how disappointed I am in the team and embarrassing they are.
I’d actually be more concerned if we made a knee jerk follow on appointment. OgS has been lower expectations & woefully out of his depth for ages, it’s somewhat refreshing this period ‘good run’, ‘bad run’, ‘lose in cups’ is hopefully so I’m actually somewhat optimistic.
Sunday was coming from a mile off, I was far more upset watching the race to the bottom amongst the fanbase when we lost in the Europa League Final last season.
I stopped being ‘depressed’ about football in my teens.
Sunday was coming from a mile off, I was far more upset watching the race to the bottom amongst the fanbase when we lost in the Europa League Final last season.
I stopped being ‘depressed’ about football in my teens.
Im depressed thinking our squad probably earns double what Liverpool do and cost many times more to put together. All just to have a lazy, disjointed and disinterested team and a squad that’s all over the place.
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It is depressing to see United run by clueless bankers and venture capitalists while the likes of City and Pool have actual football men with a clear vision running the show, yes.
I’ve posted on this before, I suffer depression but it’s under control most of the time, the club have indirectly added to it in a negative way. That’s not to say it’s their fault at all but it’s just a natural reaction to be miserable when we lose and it’s been a truly horrible 8 years or so.
The fanbase I most interact with are super negative, a human response to the state of the club during that period, but that part I find every bit as depressing as the club and it’s results, so it’s a double edged sword.
I’ve told myself 100 times to stop caring and even to avoid matches but I never do, it’s easier said than done.
Here I find the club on the verge of restarting the cycle again after yet another failed managerial appointment and I just feel numb to it, which is probably a good thing in the context of this thread at least. Not angry, just resigned to it, with absolutely no expectation we will appoint the ‘right guy’ next. This is what supporting United is now, it’s our reality and has been for almost a decade, that’s depressing.
The fanbase I most interact with are super negative, a human response to the state of the club during that period, but that part I find every bit as depressing as the club and it’s results, so it’s a double edged sword.
I’ve told myself 100 times to stop caring and even to avoid matches but I never do, it’s easier said than done.
Here I find the club on the verge of restarting the cycle again after yet another failed managerial appointment and I just feel numb to it, which is probably a good thing in the context of this thread at least. Not angry, just resigned to it, with absolutely no expectation we will appoint the ‘right guy’ next. This is what supporting United is now, it’s our reality and has been for almost a decade, that’s depressing.
Actually I find the situation hilarious. However I am a big fan of the late Paulo Villagio movies especially the Ugo Fantozzi series
I think thankfully the seriousness and obsession with United died down a bit after Fergie and so all this is a bit easier to take. Imagine Arsenal fans going through this with Wenger. Shudder
Of course you still care but a level of detachment from your football club is healthy I reckon.
Of course you still care but a level of detachment from your football club is healthy I reckon.
Yep, just looking at different threads, people baying for blood, call the manager all names under the sun. I do find it all pathetic. I'm reasonably reserved about how United results affect me compared to previous years as there are more important things to focus on.
I just try not to be too emotionally affected by things that I have no control over.
Probably why I just detach emotionally whenever I know the club is going in the wrong direction.
Probably why I just detach emotionally whenever I know the club is going in the wrong direction.
I’d mostly concur with the above statement.
Or just this.
If it's affecting you then time to take a step back. I guess most fans can get heavily emotionally involved at different times though.
It's always good to remember that football is entertainment, a pass time and meant to be a happy thing we have in our free time. Whatever happens life carries on and there's far bigger things to worry about.
It's always good to remember that football is entertainment, a pass time and meant to be a happy thing we have in our free time. Whatever happens life carries on and there's far bigger things to worry about.