Bit different when its a nothing team winning the lottery. We're already a giant with something to lose.
Are the Glazers preparing for a sale? | Saudis deny the news
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Bit different when its a nothing team winning the lottery. We're already a giant with something to lose.
There are apparently about 2300 billionaires in the world currently. Surely one of them fancies it, who isn't the leader of a despotic regime?
No one ever has an answer to this
I agree with that bit, but the point Im making is its the teams with the biggest pockets usually win the trophies, irrespective of everything else.
Utd just tried to change the style of the team what was a winner for decades, to 3 opposing managers and their styles by trying to shoe horn players who didnt fit their styles either. Now we have reverted back to the clubs identity, we are seeing much better results, but to get back to the top will still require more big money spent on players better than what we have.
Most of them aren't stupid enough to spend +4Bn£ for the right of spending money in a football club.
Great post. The endgame is that they all want profits, along with the added benefits of diversification, PR vehicles, etc.
When the Glazers bought the club it was worth less than a billion, now it's worth over two billion, tripling in value. United as a business is self-sustaining, so it wouldn't require investment. If I was a billionaire who liked football, I would definitely consider it.
I'd still watch. I just wouldn't pay to watch, even on TV.
Lots of soul searching going on in this thread.
Every leader of every Empire, Kingdom, Con-Glomerate, Dominion, Consortium, even down to the level of village chiefs, that have ever existed on this earth have 'screwed over' their own people as well as those they have conquered, subjugated, enslaved, etc. all sorts of cruel and sometimes barbaric acts have been perpetrated to maintain their power, such is the failing of human kind.
Set in this context the potential ownership of United by the Saudis might not be so bad?
Every leader of every Empire, Kingdom, Con-Glomerate, Dominion, Consortium, even down to the level of village chiefs, that have ever existed on this earth have 'screwed over' their own people as well as those they have conquered, subjugated, enslaved, etc. all sorts of cruel and sometimes barbaric acts have been perpetrated to maintain their power, such is the failing of human kind.
Set in this context the potential ownership of United by the Saudis might not be so bad?
The answer is that we spent loads but with a primarily commercial policy behind it. And the commercial policy was antithetical to the football policy.
Which is a terrifying prospect when they were doing it with experienced managers at the helm. You worry what might happen if we have Ole without a DOF and Ed pulling the strings. Ole looking at good prospects for the future of the club and Ed just glued to Gareth Bale.
Something to lose?? £450m of debt,would certainly lose that overnight!
The point here is that people want something different than the businessmen type.
You make a hell of a lot of assumptions on how much fruits I eat from that ‘oil based economies’. Anyway, if you feel that the Saudis are immune from criticisms because they have oil then that’s your right, bizarre opinion as it is.This is absolutely perfect. It allows you to personally always do whatever you want, in this case to continue to eat the fruits from the richness of our oil based economies, while at the same time pointing the moral finger at others. Keep up the good work, ostrich.
I think none of them are, including the Saudis.
Mbappé?
If we didn't have to buy three players every year because of our poor recruitment we would be able to pull out those kind of moves. Instead we have to get a CM, rb and an rw in the upcoming window.
Mate you started with all that false morality, calling out everyone who doesn't share your loose moral values and when I pointed out as to why so many are against saudi ownership, you just assume everyone's the same. I will never support THEM as you said, but I'll always support UTD albeit if saudis do takeover, it'll be a bitter pill to swallow and will have some internal conflict with myself over that.
I've said it many times that the Glaziers are bunch of money hungry cnuts but those for everything those cnuts have done do you understand no one in their right mind would try to compare them with that saudi prince?
You want what's the best for the club? Did you ever read what I've written in my previous comment regarding the negative implications of having a murderous saudi prince as UTD's owner?
I am from overseas and share the same sentiments. I don't want them, see how some are trying to convince themselves that we actually need the Saudi money
Good point ! We need to make right descisons and reasonable contracts!
Think it is more we want money, preferably not the Saudi money. The money we actually earn ourselves would be nice, if some of it wasn't being siphoned off into the trough and what is left is not being spent as incompetently as possible. So it is either new owners who will invest wisely with the right people running the club, or at least get a DOF in. Oh we have a new sunglasses partner, so good news.
I have the same feeling but at the same time there has to be a rich dummy somewhere.
I can only deduce from this thread that the modern united fans are glory hunters
People don't get that rich by being dummies.
Which points the finger at the management rather than the ownership. Getting the Saudi in will not necessarily change that.
Some inherit their wealth, that's the demographic that we should target.
You must live in cuckoo land.
Are there any rich dummies on here?
We already have the Glazers
Yes Normally I would agree but this is gathering pace, check Fox Sports news Services think there is a link in this thread?
It’s really not. Everyone is just quoting The Sun.
It doesn't really work since they treat the club as a business like most other billionaires would, that's why some want the Saudis.
I know, was only joking. Unfortunately they fall into the bracket of not being rich enough for the club.
Why would you? Where would City be without him? They can't afford to have morals.
The UAE have a shocking human rights record too.Saudis even worse though.
Well it's not something that most United Fans, me included would welcome so lets hope it is exactly that just Sun cranking up a story which will soon be forgotten about, I do agree that a lot of this type of lazy Journalism is normally used for click bait articles, this just feels a little different, like certain parties both within the club and on the Saudi PR teams are using it to temper public reaction before any further action is taken?
This is some City levels of bullshit. Bizarre false equivalency.
What happened historically does not justify the crimes of the present day. This is a regime who deny women basic human rights, who chop heads from homosexuals, who fund and promote the ideology of the worst terrorist organisations in the world, including that of a group who murdered 23 people in Manchester less than two years ago. They dismember journalists who dare reveal their crimes, they're responsible for the world's largest humanitarian crisis right now in Yemen. The historical failings of human kind are pretty irrelevant to the atrocities being carried out in the modern world - Times have changed, you'll find.
They're the scum of the earth. If there wasn't lots of soul searching going on I'd be worried.
I haven’t been overdrawn for a few years.
I have a few bob tucked away for a rainy day and I also lent a tenner to a mate once who still owes it me so I think that may qualify me. How much did you say they want?
That much
oh well.I haven’t been overdrawn for a few years.
I have a few bob tucked away for a rainy day and I also lent a tenner to a mate once who still owes it me so I think that may qualify me. How much did you say they want?
That much
Hope you are adding interest onto that tenner.I believe it points to the model of ownership. You maximise profits by signing certain kinds of player and prioritising results over performance. So you end up with Jose and a weird unbalanced squad.
The playboy/public relations ownership model is prestige based, so you get a different set of priorities.
But we have spent a lot of money - more than nearly every over club on the planet. You could argue that the Glazers employ Ed and that’s poor judgement, but why would the Saudis have a better idea about who the right football men are to take our club forward? What history do they have of turning footballs clubs around? We are spending obscene amounts already just spending it badly.
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