Are Ronaldo, Martial, Rashford enough?

Desert Eagle

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ETH in the post match presser was asked about strikers and whether we need more. He said we have Ronaldo, Martial and rashford and that is enough.

Is it?

I don't think so. One is old and has been declining for a while. The other two are inconsistent and have had lots of injuries as well. We need goals. Today's other pl results should be warning enough. We still have negative goal difference after four games.
 
If he believed that we wouldn’t have been chasing attackers all window. Of course it’s not enough.
 
No, because only one of them is actually a striker and he is injury-prone.
 
He'll obviously say that but it's clearly not.

Martial - If not injured, should be our first choice. Been very good under ten Hag so far but has fitness issues.

Rashford - Has worked harder and looked livelier but he's not a striker.

Ronaldo - Even if he was our first choice, he's 37 and we need to be replacing him with a top-class striker.

I think we need at least one attacker if Ronaldo stays - preferably a winger (Antony). If Ronaldo goes, we need a striker. That could be Gakpo, who can play on the left and up top or Memphis, who for me, is ideal for the way ten Hag uses his strikers.


Martial
Rashford
Sancho
Ronaldo? (Memphis)
Antony
Elanga
 
No but he will never say that - he keeps all his cards close and I like that.
 
It probably is enough in terms of numbers for the striking position. In terms of quality and Ronaldo's attitude at the moment, it's a definite worry.

I don't believe that ETH is totally happy with this situation, I think he probably realises he is probably only going to get one more body through the door and that body is not going to be a focal point up front. It's going to be a wide forward of some description.
 
Shoot me but I think so if we abandon the EL until the knockout stages
 
For this season yea, long term none of them are good enough.
 
Ronaldo - Completely done, unmotivated, effortless and careless.

Rashford - Trash for 2 straight years. Fellaini would be a bigger threat than this guy.

Martial - Practically handicapped. Anthony Jonesial. Breaks easier than a digestive biscuit.
 
Hopefully that means he knows Martial isn’t out as long as initially feared. 3 strikers are usually enough for a squad when we usually play with only one
 
No, Ronaldo is finished, Rashford isn't a striker and has zero ability to hold the ball up, Martial is good but far too injury prone.
 
If we can bring in another top quality midfielder with a great creative passing range then yes that would be enough in attack with a great midfield and defence to win enough matches for top 4 football by comfortably getting results by small margin score lines
 
BlueHaze said:
Ronaldo - Completely done, unmotivated, effortless and careless.

Rashford - Trash for 2 straight years. Fellaini would be a bigger threat than this guy.

Martial - Practically handicapped. Anthony Jonesial. Breaks easier than a digestive biscuit.
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:lol: :lol: Bit too positive for my liking.
 
BlueHaze said:
Ronaldo - Completely done, unmotivated, effortless and careless.

Rashford - Trash for 2 straight years. Fellaini would be a bigger threat than this guy.

Martial - Practically handicapped. Anthony Jonesial. Breaks easier than a digestive biscuit.
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This made me laugh.

I see no lies though.
 
Not even close to being enough.

Nowhere near. It will be our downfall if we don’t start scoring more goals pretty quickly.
 
The issue is that some people appear to have written a long list of everything the squad needs back in May and had expectation that this entire list would then be crossed off over the next 3 months. There will always be something the squad still needs by the time this window closes.
 
Not remotely enough.

Ronaldo has checked out of the club mentally and is too old now. Bit part player at best. Him being on the bench will cause problems on a weekly basis. He and ETH don't get on.

Rashford is frighteningly inconsistent and has been for years. He's not a striker either, never has been.

Martial is also inconsistent, injury prone, and 7 months ago everyone was desperate for him to leave (when he went to Sevilla).

While I think ETH is a great manager, without 2-3 more players (and Ronaldo out), I fear for us this season.
 
It's definitely not enough, Ronaldo is currently on the bench and the rest aren't clinical or good enough to rely on them for a whole season. As it is you should be getting at least another forward if Ronaldo doesn't leave.
 
Ronaldo is finished at high level.
Rashford is just another above average "local lad" that United is obsessed with.
Martial is Martial. Can't never rely on him.

ETH is a smart man. I'm sure he knows it by now. If he really meant what he said then.. god bless.
 
Jesus he said that?

No. It's really not enough.

Ronaldo wants out and is playing very poorly indeed. It could be because his mind is elsewhere but it doesn't seem like him to let his performances go to shit. I think he's just lost it.

Rashford isn't a striker and doesn't look like a United player either these days. If we're honest, he doesn't look much like a Premier League player at all now.

Martial had a good preseason, but he's been even worse than Rashford is now for years before that, and is a crock, so he's not reliable either.

I would say that we should get rid of Ronaldo (and Rashford if possible but we won't) and bring in a proper striker. Doesn't even have to be a top class one, just a good one would do for now because at the moment we have none really.
 
Worst part of this forward group is that it might hold the team back this year. I didn't expect the back line to play like they have. Martinez is better than I expected him to be. Varane & Martinez might be a top pairing in this league by the end of this season. Midfield looks a ton better. It's forwards that are going to hurt us now.

I mean look at the Arse game coming up. We are on par with them in some ways but the disparity at forward will be our undoing.

Far as I'm concerned they have to get Antony. Just get it done. Overpay to finish it, let everyone laugh, I could care less when our forward group has more threat and professionalism at the top.
 
If Martial could stay fit it'd be enough in terms of numbers, but Martial keeps getting injured, Ronaldo is both wanting to leave, looks done physically, probably wouldn't be content as #2 nor is he worth the £500k p/w wages to sit on the bench, and Rashford is only an emergency striker option against teams who play with a high defensive line.

We're obviously in for Antony and anything else will depend on the Ronaldo situation. I'd happily replace him with a cheap backup striker if it means we can invest in other areas. However it's all dependent on outgoings, we're not going to sign another RB unless AWB leaves, we're not going to sign another CB unless Maguire leaves, we're not going to sign another CM unless someone like VDB leaves, we're not going to sign another forward unless Ronaldo leaves, plus there's a few other players sitting around on like Jones, Tuanzebe, Williams and Garner, a couple of which it seems we're looking to offload to free up some budget.

Obviously ETH can't say we're desperate, need to offload some deadwood, and that we should spend whatever asking price for our transfers targets, as that would be shooting ourselves in the foot. Most people in this thread recognise this and have stated to such effect, but its worth repeating as some people probably still don't get it.
 
IF Martial can stay fit, and IF Martial can get back to 19/20 form...then yes it probably is to get through the season while we focus our attention on other positions. Martial plays most of the games with Ronaldo and to some extent Rashford plays there when needed.

Unfortunately it's looking unlikely that he stays fit most of the season. As such we definitely need another option as our entire attacking play revolves around Martial's ability to hold the ball and link with the other attackers. Rashford is utterly incompetent at that part of the game, and Ronaldo isn't that much better.
 
It just feels like, even a relegation battle Soton has a better striker. It's disheartening.
 
It will prob have to be enough until next season which will mean we need to be super lucky with injuries which even after 4 games hasn’t worked out so far. I’m happy with his recruitment so far though so let’s hope he’s a lucky manager as well.
 
We need more players period, as the group stages of the Europa league are said to be more condensed in the beginning. We still don't have a suitable enough "2nd team", and the high tempo press that we've now implemented means we need to maintain a large squad to avoid fatigue as season progresses.

STILL not convinced of Van de Beek, and all the (3) coaches he's been under at United seem reluctant to give him a starting role, yet we're going to need him for Europa. For that matter I STILL prefer Wan Bissaka to Dalot, but at least we'll be able to rotate an acceptable player in that position for both domestic and european campaign. Maguire should still be immense for Europe as will Ronaldo.

"2nd Team"

GK (whoever is 2nd choice)

Shaw
Maguire
Lindelof
Jones
Wan Bissaka


Van de Beek
Fred/Mctominay (assuming Casemiero/Eriksen are 1st team)


Elanga (assuming Martial/Rashford/Bruno/Sancho are 1st team)
Ronaldo

only player left with suitable amount of experience is Tuanzebe, everyone else is a rookie/kid. An injury or 2 and we could be in trouble.
 
It's not. Ronaldo is finished and should leave. Rashford is not a striker. ETH can keep trying to play him there, but he isn't that guy. Martial is the only striker we have. Problem is, his injuries are a concern. He's not reliable. The club has been looking for a striker throughout the transfer window. The targets we've been linked to are mostly target men that can win headers and hold the ball up. Unless the links are all fake, we have clearly been looking for a #9.

We need a #9 to compete with Martial.
 
It's Europa League level of ambition and that's with the promise Ronaldo winning majority of games on his own, barely with one goal advantage.
 
CloneMC16 said:
It's not. Ronaldo is finished and should leave. Rashford is not a striker. ETH can keep trying to play him there, but he isn't that guy. Martial is the only striker we have. Problem is, his injuries are a concern. He's not reliable. The club has been looking for a striker throughout the transfer window. The targets we've been linked to are mostly target men that can win headers and hold the ball up. Unless the links are all fake, we have clearly been looking for a #9.

We need a #9 to compete with Martial.
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Desperately need a number 9 especially when our local rivals have the best in world, we simply need to find someone who can score regularly.
 
Desert Eagle said:
ETH in the post match presser was asked about strikers and whether we need more. He said we have Ronaldo, Martial and rashford and that is enough.

Is it?

I don't think so. One is old and has been declining for a while. The other two are inconsistent and have had lots of injuries as well. We need goals. Today's other pl results should be warning enough. We still have negative goal difference after four games.
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Obviously not. Look at our results so far.
Without Tony Martial our attack looked pretty toothless today. ETH is a really good coach, I feel, but even he cannot make a silk purse out of a pig’s ear, or get enough goals from this lot. I pray that the Glazers are prepared to make a slightly leaner fat profit this year and get us a couple of people in. Otherwise top four is likely beyond our reach, I fear…
 
Lost bear said:
Obviously not. Look at our results so far.
Without Tony Martial our attack looked pretty toothless today. ETH is a really good coach, I feel, but even he cannot make a silk purse out of a pig’s ear, or get enough goals from this lot. I pray that the Glazers are prepared to make a slightly leaner fat profit this year and get us a couple of people in. Otherwise top four is likely beyond our reach, I fear…
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We need ideally four before Thurs night which is RB,CM,Antony & ST, however would take the last two in our pretty dire situation
 
No. Martial's fitness is a concern and the other two aren't good enough. We don't have much of a choice but to go with these now, though. There's too much else to do.
 
Of course not. That's why EtH is bidding 100m on Antony. We need a 3rd winger to rotate with rashford and Sancho, and we need a striker capable of hold up play to rotate with Martial. The rest (Ronaldo and elanga) are essentially useless members of the squad IMO. It's a must iMO if we are to be successful in any way this season to address both. Whether that's Memphis and Antony, or Morata and Asensio/Pulisic/Neto, we need it to happen so we aren't shooting ourselves in the foot.
 
Looking at how our window currently goes it's probably not a bad idea for ETH to consider McT as our #9 next match. He's strong, quite fast, tall, work hard, aggressive and actually not a bad finisher. A bit shit on the ball though and doesn't have the brain but honestly can't be worse than Rashford or Ronaldo up there. Starting him there would also send a freaking message to the Glazers and everyone.
 
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Desert Eagle said:
ETH in the post match presser was asked about strikers and whether we need more. He said we have Ronaldo, Martial and rashford and that is enough.

Is it?

I don't think so. One is old and has been declining for a while. The other two are inconsistent and have had lots of injuries as well. We need goals. Today's other pl results should be warning enough. We still have negative goal difference after four games.
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If we get Antony and keep Ronaldo yes. Otherwise we won't have enough goals to challenge for top 4.
 
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