Are Manchester United still attractive to potential signings?

I have always been surprised as to how United fans think they have been the 1st choice of players coming to UK. Chelsea have taken Mikel, Essien, Cech, Robben, Ballack Hazard, etc right under United's noses.
Well we've won five titles to your four since you bought your first with your sugar daddy's rubles, so did those players make the right move? Essien & Robben i'd have liked but the rest, including Hazard, glad we missed out thanks.
 
I have always been surprised as to how United fans think they have been the 1st choice of players coming to UK. Chelsea have taken Mikel, Essien, Cech, Robben, Ballack Hazard, etc right under United's noses.
We've been tight feckers for a good while up till woody time.
 
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Now, show us the real Munich not the postcard. :p
 
Well we've won five titles to your four since you bought your first with your sugar daddy's rubles, so did those players make the right move? Essien & Robben i'd have liked but the rest, including Hazard, glad we missed out thanks.

Ballack would have improved your midfield loads.
Cech joined Chelsea when you had shit gks.
Hazard....Seriously?
 
Ballack would have improved your midfield loads.
Cech joined Chelsea when you had shit gks.
Hazard....Seriously?
Ballack made the wrong choice, look at what we won in the years he was in England. Good player but never showed his best at Chelsea and wouldn't have drastically improved us or anything.
 
@Dans :lol: Never been in Turin, I didn't know how it looked like, but you are showing the touristic neighborhood of Munich here, where are all the drunks and drug addicts hanging out?
 
You'd be happy with Kane and McCarthy but you're bemoaning the fact that we (apparently) have to go for them instead of superstar players.

You sound like one of those guys who's chased a fit bird all night in a club and then after you fail, you pull a munter and pretend to your mates that she was hot.

Realistic, that's all. Kane & McCarthy are both attainable at a push & would improve the squad - what's not to like. Is Kane the munter of Premier League forwards?
 
These threads always annoy me because you get a load of people, most of whom have never been, spending hours slagging off Manchester.

feck off with all that. Manchester isn't as nice as London or Madrid, we all know that but calling it boring or shit is just insulting. If you want to support a team that plays in a sunny city go and do that.
 
Seriously? Kinell.
Yes, he's a lezy fecker who would have been lambasted at United for his low workrate - springs into life going forward & is very effective but at United, that's only half the responsibilities covered. Fully expect Depay to put him in the shade this season.
 
If we are willing to pay, players will come, unless we are competing with Barcelona or Real Madrid. I am realistic to know that if a player has a choice of those 2 clubs, then he will go there, any other teams, then we stand a better chance. Lucas Moura and Hazard went elsewhere because the club did not want to pay the fees involved.
 
These threads always annoy me because you get a load of people, most of whom have never been, spending hours slagging off Manchester.

feck off with all that. Manchester isn't as nice as London or Madrid, we all know that but calling it boring or shit is just insulting. If you want to support a team that plays in a sunny city go and do that.

I love it but to millionaire footballers, the options aren't really that great.
 
Post Ferguson, United's lure was going to drop ever so slightly. With Moyes replacing Sir Alex, they were not as attractive as they might have been if they hired somebody with more cachet than with Moyes. Now with van Gaal they have a manager with cachet, but there's uncertainty regarding their prospects regarding silverware or at least challenging for silverware.
 
Always surprises me when people say that United have always attracted top players lol.

Like who? We signed "top talent" and created top players from it.

Beside Veron and Di Maria, there is no world class player that ever came to Man United in the past 2 decades. All the other ones were good/great transfers but none of them were world class transfers like you see every season at Barcelona or Real Madrid.

We miss out on every world class player we normally follow. And thats the harsh truth.

Despite our status, Man United is not an attractive club to play at. English TAX, shit weather, unattractive industrial city and the general team quality is never amazing.

If you are not a Man United fan, then why should you ever choose Man United over any of the other real world class clubs?
You're a real ray of sunshine.
"Unattractive industrial city" .......... I live in Greater Manchester and these players live in some of the most sought after, green-belt, areas in the country. All this crap about Manchester being little more than a corporation slag-heap is getting a bit tiresome. And to rumble on about "shit weather"; so what, who cares, most of northern Europe ( and you should know ) isn't exactly tropical in terms of climate; and if the delicate little blooms can't choke down their million pounds salaries, as some mitigation for having to live in such an egregious "shite-hole" then maybe we're better off without them in the first place.
Even when we do sign some truly top talent ( ADM, RVP, Herrera, Mata, Falcao, Veron, etc ) there's always a procession of neysayers who line up to trumpet their glass-is-half-empty opinions about how such individuals fail to meet the criteria of world-class talent, or how we fluked their acquisition because other clubs couldn't be arsed chasing them in the first place.
One of the main reasons why we didn't pursue these type of signings in the past was the attitude of SAF who sought to develop players and nurture talent, instead of looking to use the transfer window as a glorified exhibition of one-upmanship.
 
Frankly, places like Turin, Barcelona, possibly even Madrid, Milan, etc are all way better than Manchester. The UK is generally a dreary grey shitehole in comparison to these cities. I can imagine the pull of Manchester itself is minimal to non-existant. It'll be about the money and the chance of success.
Aye, that's why our country attract millions of tourist every year. Right shithole. Manchester might not be great, but as Mata has shown it is easy to get to the Lake District etc.
 
Aye, that's why our country attract millions of tourist every year. Right shithole. Manchester might not be great, but as Mata has shown it is easy to get to the Lake District etc.

The Tour de France showed that England is a beautiful country, it worth a visit but if you have the money and the opportunity to live in Milan, Madrid Barcelona or London, no other cities can compete.
And I don't think that the players mind too much, but their families do.
 
With ADM, it was Real who were selling & they did so because Bale was coming in. Was ADM delighted? I doubt it. Who else could have afforded him, last summer? FFP put paid to all the other clubs who could in the past have been interested, PSG, City, Chelsea. Bayern didn't need him & their record fee is £31M - they just wouldn't. So that leaves us. Poor bugger had no choice what so ever.
:lol: this thread is great

This horrible hell hole that is Manchester United
 
You're a real ray of sunshine.
"Unattractive industrial city" .......... I live in Greater Manchester and these players live in some of the most sought after, green-belt, areas in the country. All this crap about Manchester being little more than a corporation slag-heap is getting a bit tiresome. And to rumble on about "shit weather"; so what, who cares, most of northern Europe ( and you should know ) isn't exactly tropical in terms of climate; and if the delicate little blooms can't choke down their million pounds salaries, as some mitigation for having to live in such an egregious "shite-hole" then maybe we're better off without them in the first place.
Even when we do sign some truly top talent ( ADM, RVP, Herrera, Mata, Falcao, Veron, etc ) there's always a procession of neysayers who line up to trumpet their glass-is-half-empty opinions about how such individuals fail to meet the criteria of world-class talent, or how we fluked their acquisition because other clubs couldn't be arsed chasing them in the first place.
One of the main reasons why we didn't pursue these type of signings in the past was the attitude of SAF who sought to develop players and nurture talent, instead of looking to use the transfer window as a glorified exhibition of one-upmanship.

ha! good post
 
When Mata was told his time was up at Chelsea, he took the only big option, us. Herrera was flattered by our year long interest I expect & it was a big move for him but Real, Barcelona & Athletico, were not not in for him, nor were Bayern or Chelsea. Di Maria was also surplus due to Bale coming in & this would have been spelt out to him - he didn't really have a choice & I expect we gave him a good pay rise to sweeten the pill.
That's true of most clubs. Of Chelsea's recent big signings who else was in for them?
 
You're a real ray of sunshine.
"Unattractive industrial city" .......... I live in Greater Manchester and these players live in some of the most sought after, green-belt, areas in the country. All this crap about Manchester being little more than a corporation slag-heap is getting a bit tiresome. And to rumble on about "shit weather"; so what, who cares, most of northern Europe ( and you should know ) isn't exactly tropical in terms of climate; and if the delicate little blooms can't choke down their million pounds salaries, as some mitigation for having to live in such an egregious "shite-hole" then maybe we're better off without them in the first place.
Even when we do sign some truly top talent ( ADM, RVP, Herrera, Mata, Falcao, Veron, etc ) there's always a procession of neysayers who line up to trumpet their glass-is-half-empty opinions about how such individuals fail to meet the criteria of world-class talent, or how we fluked their acquisition because other clubs couldn't be arsed chasing them in the first place.
One of the main reasons why we didn't pursue these type of signings in the past was the attitude of SAF who sought to develop players and nurture talent, instead of looking to use the transfer window as a glorified exhibition of one-upmanship.

Sorry for throwing sand in your vagina but Manchester is simply not as appealing as the cities other rival top clubs reside in. And yes it does matter a lot, because most footballers got more to think of then just themselves.

Those naysayers you are talking about, at least ask logical questions. You should try that for once.
 
Yeah right shit hole Manchester
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Where nothing happens

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and don't get me started on winter, it's so bleak.
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However could it compete with the likes of Turin
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or Munich
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Because you know, they don't have any poverty stricken areas that their Millionaire footballers would have to avoid, unlike shit hole Manchester which is nothing but a slum

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Yeah right shit hole Manchester
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Where nothing happens

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and don't get me started on winter, it's so bleak.

However could it compete with the likes of Turin
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or Munich
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Because you know, they don't have any poverty stricken areas that their Millionaire footballers would have to avoid, unlike shit hole Manchester which is nothing but a slum

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you're going to extremes. Manchester is a nice city but Munich is most definitely a nicer one, as are Madrid, London, and Barcelona. I haven't been to Turin so I can't comment on it.
 
If there is a line of clubs chasing one top player, I doubt we stand a chance right now. I’d say we’re third row, behind a)Spain and b) Bayern, Chelsea because. All of those four clubs are more likely to win in the coming years than we do. I don’t think history matters as much for players those days, it’s all about here and now. Also, they rarely spend their whole carriers in one place.

As for the location, it obviously matters. Barcelona is fantastic, Madrid is not too far behind, and I have a few friends who are in love with Munich. I’ve never been a big fan of London but it’s still far more likely destination than Manchester.

We can’t complete with Spanish clubs so I’m happy we’re loaded with cash, and I’m crossing my fingers for Woodward next muppet signings.
 
you're going to extremes. Manchester is a nice city but Munich is most definitely a nicer one, as are Madrid, London, and Barcelona. I haven't been to Turin so I can't comment on it.
No i'm not, I returned to Manchester for the first time in 10 years and was blown away. I've also been to Barcelona and Madrid and Munich and they have some interesting and beautiful places but they also have some right slums and poverty stricken areas that make Wythenshawe and Crumpsall look like Alderley edge. Just because people avoid them doesn't mean they're not there. I don't imagine their football players spend much time in them though,
 
No i'm not, I returned to Manchester for the first time in 10 years and was blown away. I've also been to Barcelona and Madrid and Munich and they have some interesting and beautiful places but they also have some right slums and poverty stricken areas that make Wythenshawe and Crumpsall look like Alderley edge. Just because people avoid them doesn't mean they're not there. I don't imagine their football players spend much time in them though,
then what's the point in mentioning them, exactly?

there's almost no such thing as a heavily populated city that doesn't have class divides across its different districts and areas, and most wealthy people and visitors aren't going to see them. The question is which of the good areas, sights, weather etc are better. Finding the best pics of Manchester and the worst possible pics of Munich is a terrible way to argue it.
 
then what's the point in mentioning them, exactly?

there's almost no such thing as a heavily populated city that doesn't have class divides across its different districts and areas, and most wealthy people and visitors aren't going to see them. The question is which of the good areas, sights, weather etc are better. Finding the best pics of Manchester and the worst possible pics of Munich is a terrible way to argue it.
As opposed to every one else picking out the best pics of Turin or Munich then comparing it to a street in Gorton. if you are young and rich you can have an amazing life in the City of Manchester.
 
As opposed to every one else picking out the best pics of Turin or Munich then comparing it to a street in Gorton. if you are young and rich you can have an amazing life in the City of Manchester.
but not as amazing as Munich, Barcelona, London, or Madrid.

And, most importantly, most footballers don't know that about Manchester and will automatically assume the others are better anyway.
 
I want to make it clear Manchester is a great place to live. The nightlife and live music scene is superb. A load of quality restaurants despite what bacon neck said. All the Louis Vuitton wag bullshit shops you want. The weather is shite, but apart from Spain all of Europe is, it's why we holiday there.
 
but not as amazing as Munich, Barcelona, London, or Madrid.

And, most importantly, most footballers don't know that about Manchester and will automatically assume the others are better anyway.
I don't find Munich, Madrid or London that amazing. Barcelona is a different story as that is incredible. I think of it terms of actually living there. and when you get to a certain point of wealth other than weather which Munich and Turin and London all suffer from as well then I still state that Manchester and its area for living in is just as good as other large cities. It's lifestyle options just aren't as famous as those other cities.
 
I think we're basically in the same boat we were under Sir Alex, albeit for different reasons. Under Sir Alex players would come here because it was pretty much a certainty you'd win titles at some point. Now players will come here because we will offer top of the line wages and pay your previous club what they want. I have no doubts if PSG could've paid what Real wanted, Di Maria wouldn't of came here. We'll probably get Otamendi this summer because we'll be the only ones willing to pay his release clause.

I do think for foreign players being in Manchester is as a hindrance. City is a great example. Their project started off so ambitious with bids for the likes of Kaka and Xavi. I really don't think the Abu Dhabi people dreamed of a midfield with the likes Fernandinho, Milner and Navas in it when they started. In a shorter period of time PSG assembled a squad with more muppet names than City has and that is despite them playing in a much inferior league.
 
The issue I have, and I'm sure it's one other Mancunians have, is people coming on here and calling Manchester a shithole or boring. That's just incredibly insulting and a real knobhead thing to do.

I wouldn't go on a fan forum for the Detroit Lions, an NFL team, and start calling it a shithole and a dump. Especially if I was an out of towner who supported them. I don't understand that mentality.

Back on topic, yes I think we're still an attractive club for most players. We've rarely gone for the ready made world class players anyway
 
United are still a very attractive club for the vast majority of players. Are we the destination of choice for the creme de la creme ? Probably not, to be fair. These things often go in cycles (evidenced by the downfall of Milan and Internazionale and even Juventus) - and from a purely footballing perspective, we have declined just a tad in terms of appeal, unlike the Fergie years. Right now Real Madrid and Barcelona are in a different class altogether (especially for Latin American and Southern European players) from almost every perspective, and realistically United can't always match that in the short or even long term, given the propensity of Madrid and Barcelona to always attract the best of the best even back in the day (especially the former). But those two can't sign every major player, and we should be there or thereabouts for the rest of the elite. If Manchester City of all clubs can swopp in like a vulture for the likes of Sergio Aguero or David Silva (who were approaching world class status at Atletico and Valencia), then there's no reason to believe United can't do the same given our much superior history, track record of success (once the club becomes more stable), and finances ( in the FFP era).

Losing the greatest manager of the modern era has put a dent in our chances for silverware/ footballing appeal, that's undeniable. Van Gaal is not Fergie by any stretch of the imagination, and his reputation as an almost dictatorial and uncompromising task-master (as opposed to Fergie's harsh but more warm and humane Papa-bear approach) might even ward some players off. But to kind of counterbalance that, Fergie didn't sign a lot of marquee players anyway, and Woodward and the owners are now willing to pump unprecedented amounts of money into the club. Massive wages aren't everything for certain players, but by and large, that along-with agent/ intermediary fees does tend to lubricate the negotiations to a degree - as evidenced by the success of Oligarch/ Sheikh bankrolled clubs.

To be honest, we were a bit hurt by the transfer policies of David Gill and even Fergie. Both of them were kind of old school in their ideology and didn't have much time for agent conventions (United was a non-attendee at a lot of agent fairs), or the newer age 'Show me the money ! type super-agents who were more into networking for mutual benefit and extracting more commissions, which is where some of the other major clubs pulled ahead. Woodward doesn't share that feeling of underlying contempt, he seems more suave and approachable from that perspective, and is reportedly well connected, and on good terms with a lot of handlers. Apart from that, the most important thing IMO is bringing United back to a point where the club is regularly contending for the League title and the latter stages of the European Cup. If we go on a run of consecutive semi-final appearances in the Champions League to go with 1-2 finishes in the league, the club once again becomes a major attraction for players. That will ensure that there's a better balance of priorities - players are joining United for more of the right sporting reasons, rather than just wads of cash. Until that happens, we will have to overpay to an extent.

I think once we becomes more successful, United is in Bayern Munich's ballpark in terms of attractiveness, and probably a bit better than them overall. Pragmatically speaking, neither club can always contend with Madrid and Barcelona's appeal for the absolute top players, but are just a notch below. Both storied teams with a rich history of success. Both able to afford massive fees and wages, based on their financial status (infact United have an edge in there both right now, and the future). Is Munich a more desirable city to live in ? Probably yes. But conversely, the English League is more attractive and marketable. So, like them, we should be able to attract world-class players at decent rates. But that's all predicated on success to a large degree. Will that happen under Louis ? Dunno. But he should be able to elevate our performances on a year-by-year basis, and is more of a short-term patchwork appointment IMO. So our next managerial appointment could be critical for the medium to long-term appeal of the club.

Oof! Great post!
 
The issue I have, and I'm sure it's one other Mancunians have, is people coming on here and calling Manchester a shithole or boring. That's just incredibly insulting and a real knobhead thing to do.

I wouldn't go on a fan forum for the Detroit Lions, an NFL team, and start calling it a shithole and a dump. Especially if I was an out of towner who supported them. I don't understand that mentality.

Back on topic, yes I think we're still an attractive club for most players. We've rarely gone for the ready made world class players anyway
Again the Michigan area and Detroit is amazing other than the slum porn we constantly see.
 
I don't find Munich, Madrid or London that amazing. Barcelona is a different story as that is incredible. I think of it terms of actually living there. and when you get to a certain point of wealth other than weather which Munich and Turin and London all suffer from as well then I still state that Manchester and its area for living in is just as good as other large cities. It's lifestyle options just aren't as famous as those other cities.
At least when there's a drought, us up north have plenty of water, while the south have hose pipe bans.:D