I agree with you for once
Renato Sanches is a bot. No other way to put it. Benfica fooled all of you and Bayern.
He is just not that good. He won't ever play or make it at a top team.
Are Lille the team to raid in Summer 2021?
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Renato Sanches is a bot. No other way to put it. Benfica fooled all of you and Bayern.
He is just not that good. He won't ever play or make it at a top team.
Yes. He’d be our second best centre back.
Admittedly I’ve not watched him at all since he’s left Soton (outside of the odd Portugal NT match) but he’s what, 37 now? That’d be something if he was able to come in and improve on Lindelof.
What's Badiashile like?
I think that's harsh, just because you're not good enough for Bayern doesn't make you some kind of "bot".I agree with you for once
Renato Sanches is a bot. No other way to put it. Benfica fooled all of you and Bayern.
He is just not that good. He won't ever play or make it at a top team.
The obvious ones are Botman, Ikone, Boubakary and Jonathan David. I havent watched them but Im sure there'll be plenty interested in them.
Wow, 6 exclamation marks. You feel strongly about this.
I haven't watched the guy once, only going by what I've heard and read. But Giflord said he's played the equivalent of 14 games. Cavani is 34, Sanches is 23. I'd want my 23 year old playing much more. Bailey's made 17 starts. Even if he'd played well every single game, we'd have said he hasn't played enough games this year and that he wasn't good enough this season, right?
Edit: for context, up until 6 or so weeks ago I wasn't massively fussed if Cavani stayed or went. He'd played well when he was available and showed his worth, but I wasn't desperate for him to sign and felt that if he wanted to leave he should go.
Last time Lille won the league in 2011, half the team ended up in the PL - Eden Hazard, Dimitri Payet, Yohan Cabaye, Lucas Digne, Gervinho, Idrissa Gueye.
Also a bloke called Rio Mavuba who was a caf legend, and the new Roy Keane according to some Ligue 1 ITK's!!!
They had Joe Cole on loan too.
Also a bloke called Rio Mavuba who was a caf legend, and the new Roy Keane according to some Ligue 1 ITK's!!!
They had Joe Cole on loan too.
Damn that was quick. He's been great by all accounts as well. Donnarumma to Juve then?
Wow can't believe Digne was on that team.
How good is Jonathan David?
We could buy Tim Weah and hope he turns into the player his dad was.
I had a Turkish friend at work who wouldn't stop raving about Burak Yilmaz back when he was playing for Galatasaray. Every time he'd come into my office with a grin as big as a canyon, I'd ask him right away how many Yilmaz scored.
Yeah it was a lot of exclamation marks.It’s quite simple, I don’t agree with saying someone had a good or poor season should be based on them having an injury. The judgement should be how have they played when fit.
He’s been one of there best players when fit which was the point I’m making. Someone else saying he’s not good enough for a big Club.. again who gaf. We are talking about how he’s been this season.
Whenever he plays against France he looks like a prime Van Nistelrooy. If he was a slightly better athletes, I think that that his career could have been totally different, he knows how to play football.
Only if they have a player with the last name Jon or Kim.
Now that we might lose Martial Mata, I think we need someone like Lille Jon or Lille Kim.
Now that we might lose Martial Mata, I think we need someone like Lille Jon or Lille Kim.
We're moving away from the thread really but in my opinion, availability is important too. I used Bailly as an example but I guess that's because I'm looking at his 5 years in total here being injury riddled. If a player is usually fit but had a few niggly injuries in one season, then yes it can be excused.
It’s quite simple, I don’t agree with saying someone had a good or poor season should be based on them having an injury. The judgement should be how have they played when fit.
He’s been one of there best players when fit which was the point I’m making. Someone else saying he’s not good enough for a big Club.. again who gaf. We are talking about how he’s been this season.
Campos is the one to raid. Get him then he will tell you who to raid. Seems a friggin genius with first getting Monaco winning the league and now Lille. I dont understand why if he is so good Real and Monaco would have let him go.
He left Monaco due to relationship issues with other people and he isn't made for big clubs. The way he works is based on taking risk with players that have raw abilities that can be developed in a midsize club, Real Madrid would have no business having him as DOF, also he was a scout for them.
Slightly concerning that Fonte has been their stand out player in defence.
He's a good player in his own right - you don't get to 45 caps for Portugal if you're useless, but he spent his prime years in English football (joined at 24, left at 34) and hardly pulled up any trees. I watched him quite a lot for Southampton as I was living down there at the time, and he was always just a bit meh. And no club of any great standing ever came in for him.
Then he finds his way to Lille and becomes the new Carvalho at the age of 35?
Makes me suspicious of the likes of Botman, Sourmare etc. Lille strike me as a team who's greater than the sum of its parts. With Monaco, you could see the individual brilliance in Mbappe, Silva and Fabinho.
He's a good player in his own right - you don't get to 45 caps for Portugal if you're useless, but he spent his prime years in English football (joined at 24, left at 34) and hardly pulled up any trees. I watched him quite a lot for Southampton as I was living down there at the time, and he was always just a bit meh. And no club of any great standing ever came in for him.
Then he finds his way to Lille and becomes the new Carvalho at the age of 35?
Makes me suspicious of the likes of Botman, Sourmare etc. Lille strike me as a team who's greater than the sum of its parts. With Monaco, you could see the individual brilliance in Mbappe, Silva and Fabinho.
I'd take him as defensive coach position or player-coach. We need his defensive IQ.
Didnt know this - thanks
Psg... fecking comedy. Bottlers
Not Fonte specifically but I'll happily take the CB he's mentored. He mentored Ruben Dias with Portugal, Van Dijk at Southampton and now Botman at Lille
That's a good comp, he's a natural goalscorer.
Don't forget Alderwereld and Lovren too
He was not good enough for Swansea either but yes I was over exaggerating clearly. I was talking more tongue in cheek and the fact he is a Benfica boy.
In a neutral standpoint The main point still stands and that is that he just is not good enough, he is a physical beast no doubt but he lacks everything else.
This was evident in Benfica, and has not changed much since then. Poor passer and an overall poor understanding of the game, has a shot on him I guess in the sense that he puts a lot of power in them but he is not accurate at all and barely hits the target. On the ball he is alright but once again nothing to write home about.
He just is not that good.
Burak always stood out for me, good striker. Did a hell of a job for galatasaray in the CL and was a key player in Lille winning the title.
Potentially he could link up with Phil Jones.
Ahh yes, Raid Lille please and keep your paws off of Sporting's team
If we hadn't gone and signed Telles last season Nuno Mendes would have been an amazing signing. Imagine being Shaw's understudy and eventually replacing him. Wouldn't need to worry about the position for the next 15 years.
Havent watched him but he's only 21 and managed to get 13 goals. But then again Depay got 20, so dont really know how that would translate into a tougher league.
I'd say that's a bit harsh on Badiashile but I do agree that he can lose concentration sometimes. He is strong though and most of the time he makes the right decision to stay on his feet and let his strong frame push his man wide. He also has good pace to go with his bulk. I don't think he's quite ready for a Utd yet but I do think he could get there (he only just turned 20). I have already seen improvements in him from last season. He would be an ideal signing after we have already secured our important 1st choice cb to partner Maguire imo, but I feel there are better/safer options to target first. I do also think that there is definitely a progression learning curve for young cbs around positioning for sure. Most promising young cbs still make plenty of mistakes, it's normally only once a cb reaches 25-28 where they really show their experience and understanding of how to position their body when facing different types of strikers. The technical ability on the ball, the tackling and of course their physical stature are the most important things to have at a young age and I would say Badiashile has all of those.
Botman for me doesn't have that same potential. He's had a solid season and he's quite dominant in the air which should be something we focus on considering the problems Lindelof has had this season. This is something that concerns me a little about Jules Koundé, who I do think is already good enough for Utd. My worry with Koundé is he is only 5'10 and while he actually does quite well in the air despite his height, it makes me a little nervous and I wonder whether he might struggle more in the Prem. Botman's pretty decent on the ball too tbf, I think where I would have concerns is if he had to play in a high line (which he would for us), I'm not sure his frame would suit this style of defending as well and he has seemed somewhat slow a few times I've watched him. You also need to cover more angles when you push higher since your full backs also push higher, whereas Lille's compact narrow defensive formation give Botman (and Fonte) less angles to worry about. I would definitely like to see him play in a team that plays a higher line than Lille before considering him.
I predict a Renato Sanches to Chelsea transfer
If his on the ball quality has improved he’d be scary in beside kante.
Perisic was far better than anything we had at that period. I'd have happily taken him
the total package would have been mind boggling, and a chain around our neck. Completely the wrong signing, and glad we avoided him and the likes of Willian.
I agree he was/is a good player, very powerful direct runner but i still am glad we didn't go for him. We would have been fleeced price-wise, for another ageing player, on massive wages.
Not many more muscular footballers at top-level. Saw a picture of him celebrating the title, and those arms were impressive.