There are very few players that aren’t a problem, the vast majority of the squad benefit by not playing as people forget how poor they are.
Are Bruno and Rashford a problem?
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Bruno not the problem. Play him in McTom position and play 2 deeper lying midfielders, Amrabat/Casemiro/Mainoo. McTom is better as an impact sub to score late goals when he is fresh against a weary defence, as he has proven. Bruno was superb when he arrived and should play the AM position.
As long as they hang around and we try to build a team around them we will fail.
They may be "a" problem but _the_ problem is that Glazers have run as like shit and have bankrupted us.
Realistically we need to get rid of most of our players except for our young talent (Garnacho, Hojlund, Mainoo etc) and maybe keep Luke Shaw and AWB (personal opinion, you may disagree)
But we cannot. We really cannot. To get rid of everybody else we need to replace them with something decent. We don't have money to do that if we just terminate 20 players. We need to sell players we need to get rid of, and sell them to more than peanuts so we fan survive financial fair play in replacing them. And herein lies the problem: WE CANNOT SELL PLAYERS WE DONT WANT.
Nobody wants them!!!
And even worse, we have given them very high salaries so they also have no desire to go
We are FECKED
Realistically we need to get rid of most of our players except for our young talent (Garnacho, Hojlund, Mainoo etc) and maybe keep Luke Shaw and AWB (personal opinion, you may disagree)
But we cannot. We really cannot. To get rid of everybody else we need to replace them with something decent. We don't have money to do that if we just terminate 20 players. We need to sell players we need to get rid of, and sell them to more than peanuts so we fan survive financial fair play in replacing them. And herein lies the problem: WE CANNOT SELL PLAYERS WE DONT WANT.
Nobody wants them!!!
And even worse, we have given them very high salaries so they also have no desire to go
We are FECKED
United were good on the counter, but it was nothing you’d want to watch. They’re about 9 players away from having a first 11 on par with the top teams. So few have elite touch and control.
This is what hurts. Such a poor group of players technically, how is this a Utd side? Miles off where we need to be, the quality of this group is so bad.
Is the captaincy cursed?
Both are hit and hope footballers.
They are so bad defensively too though in different ways.
They are so bad defensively too though in different ways.
Bruno is the most overrated player in our history. He’s not very good. Rashford is capable of being phenomenal and phenomenally shite in equal measure
Can no longer afford to play both in the same lineup
Bruno has never been this poor before. Rashford needs shown the door this summer, constantly has poor spells for this team.
Bruno is the most overrated player in PL.
They were truly awful in the first half. Would be causing 4 or 5 up if they could pick a pass
The answer is still a resounding yes, but both have their little fan clubs who'll blame everyone bar these two.
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This was obvious as early as under Ole.
I’ve always wondered whether Mount was bought with a view that ETH preferred a player like him to Bruno. I’d think Mount would be a bit more conservative with passes and be more about ball retention and managing games through midfield control.
Bruno never seems to shift out of ‘quarterback trying to get winning touchdown’ mode.
Bruno never seems to shift out of ‘quarterback trying to get winning touchdown’ mode.
You don't win anything of note in modern football if you're not capable of taking care of the football
Eh…He’s been shite all season, he was mediocre last season and the season before that under Ole then Ragnick he was an utter disaster also. He’s been shite mostly since his first 12 months at the club week in week out.
At a point in their careers where getting a fee, losing their wages and signing younger replacements would be smart business.
AKA can you think of a better use of over £500k per week.
Rashford must be on more than Garnacho and Hjoland combined. Joke.
Rashford must be on more than Garnacho and Hjoland combined. Joke.
These two are the main reason United are towards the bottom of goal scoring teams. Unbelievably wasteful and awful decision making
You can't build a winning, or challenging team with these two in the lineup. Far too inconsistent and act like possession is easy to come by so they'll half ass passes or shots all the time, even though it drains the team trying to gain possession back over and over.
Rashford is the bigger problem of the two.
The question I ask myself, when you consider a team that could challenge for the league and in Europe, are they in it?
For me the answer is "no" to the both of them. They don't take care of the ball and seemingly lack an instinct to manage the game. In Rashford's case I would also add that he doesn't work hard enough.
Given their ages, wages and our FFP position. I wouldn't be angry if we cashed in on both. They won't be here when we win anything again (like many other admittedly). Between the two it's probably £130m in sale value plus 600k week wages saved, with that money you would get better replacements for sure.
The question I ask myself, when you consider a team that could challenge for the league and in Europe, are they in it?
For me the answer is "no" to the both of them. They don't take care of the ball and seemingly lack an instinct to manage the game. In Rashford's case I would also add that he doesn't work hard enough.
Given their ages, wages and our FFP position. I wouldn't be angry if we cashed in on both. They won't be here when we win anything again (like many other admittedly). Between the two it's probably £130m in sale value plus 600k week wages saved, with that money you would get better replacements for sure.
Supposed to be our star players in their prime age of their positions.
IF anyone claims their not a problem, it's due to sentimental bs bias.
IF anyone claims their not a problem, it's due to sentimental bs bias.
The new club directors will have big decisions to make if good offers come in.
I wouldn't be surprised if Saudi put in a cheeky bid for Fernandes. He'll be 30 this year and could be tempted by a grand pay day.
I wouldn't be surprised if Saudi put in a cheeky bid for Fernandes. He'll be 30 this year and could be tempted by a grand pay day.
Just think of if we had two Mainoo’s as CM’s with a DM who had legs rather than Bruno the false midfielder running up and down deserting his position.
Rashford is just one-dimensional as it gets, he had his purple patch and have years of evidence to know what his true level is.
B-/C+ tier players shouldn’t define the way we play.
Rashford is just one-dimensional as it gets, he had his purple patch and have years of evidence to know what his true level is.
B-/C+ tier players shouldn’t define the way we play.
Bruno’s got two years left on his contract come the end of the season and he’ll be 30 this year. I don’t think it’s crazy to contemplate selling if a good offer comes in.
It is the perfect time to get good money for both and re-invest in targets identified by the new leadership, their value is only going down from here.
They are both high-profile players who take a large part of the wage budget and 2 places of the starting 11 whenever they are fit, but ultimately very unreliable and lack composure which are the main reasons why we do not have any style of play.
They are both high-profile players who take a large part of the wage budget and 2 places of the starting 11 whenever they are fit, but ultimately very unreliable and lack composure which are the main reasons why we do not have any style of play.
They are both too direct. Not great when teams are compact. Both are extremely wasteful. At least Bruno really gives it everything. Both are inclined to lose their heads in different ways over the course of 90mins.
If we really want to turn the screw and play smarter football then I think we probably need to phase out nearly all the current players eventually.
If we really want to turn the screw and play smarter football then I think we probably need to phase out nearly all the current players eventually.
Currently Bruno is a problem as he's undroppable, but really poor. I do feel he'll come good again but it's been a while now, so needs to be looked at. We'd have been better off with most alternatives in his position ATM, but it won't happen.
Rashford is a huge problem because he's unsellable. No top team would seriously take a player who is only decent every blue moon, and who is generally poor at all the things that a player in his position needs to be able to do. No team at his level (probably mid table at best) would take him either on the wages we put him on.
Rashford is a huge problem because he's unsellable. No top team would seriously take a player who is only decent every blue moon, and who is generally poor at all the things that a player in his position needs to be able to do. No team at his level (probably mid table at best) would take him either on the wages we put him on.
I’d sell ‘em both
we’ve had summers before when questions were raised…Ince, Hughes, Kanchelskis
other big players have left and we’ve carried on.
Hard to put a price on it but with wages on top it’d be a saving of circa 150M
Would be interesting to see what the new ownership/staff can do with that money. And we also still have Mount who hasn’t had any semblance of a chance given his injuries
we’ve had summers before when questions were raised…Ince, Hughes, Kanchelskis
other big players have left and we’ve carried on.
Hard to put a price on it but with wages on top it’d be a saving of circa 150M
Would be interesting to see what the new ownership/staff can do with that money. And we also still have Mount who hasn’t had any semblance of a chance given his injuries
Rashford was good in the second half.
The wastefulness from a few players, but particularly these two senior players, was very painful to watch. I think we'd be worse off if they disappeared tomorrow but they shouldn't be untouchable when it comes to squad building in the summer.
To be honest, Rashford gets a lot of deserved stick but created a lot of dangerous chances and played some brilliant passes in the second half.
Nevertheless, would sell both and replace with Neto and Wirtz in a heartbeat in the summer.
Problem is, we need another CM and a CB as well, so I think it's unlikely we'll see either moved on.
Nevertheless, would sell both and replace with Neto and Wirtz in a heartbeat in the summer.
Problem is, we need another CM and a CB as well, so I think it's unlikely we'll see either moved on.
I actually think we could get more from Rashford if we had a more consistent player than Bruno. Bruno loses possession a lot, way too much in fact, and his supply isn’t as good as the stats make out. I’d be happy if both were sold for good offers on the summer.
He was actually worse than his current state just 2 years ago. Much worse in fact.
Our two main players costing us today again
Rashford weak as piss in his 'press' for their first
Bruno incapable of keeping the ball twice under pressure for their disallowed goal and their second
Rashford weak as piss in his 'press' for their first
Bruno incapable of keeping the ball twice under pressure for their disallowed goal and their second
They lack leadership and mentality to help the team stay composed and keep control when it's most needed
Atrocious decision to make Bruno captain.
Everyone on here was loving it at the time too.
Everyone on here was loving it at the time too.
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