Ed should bite the bullet and sack him now in order to save him the trouble of doing so in November. 6 defeats in 8 is unprecedented in it's awfulness. It's becoming increasingly clear that he hasn't got a clue how to turn the tide. United need a new manager and staff with a clear vision how to play progressive football.
A few months later and it's like Mourinho never left:
Still faffing about with the defense (is he really the man to shore up this defense?)
Still playing the same formation
Still willing to give the deadwood more chances
Still shunting Rashford to the wing
Still putting Matic straight back into the team
Still calling out the players in the press
Still talking about the past
Still negative
At least Mourinho would have had them fired up to come back from a losing position once in a while.
Doubt the board would have been so hasty without all the fan hysteria.That’s right because we have total influence over Ed’s decisions
Mourinho explained it by calling the 2nd place finish one of his greatest ever achievements.How do you explain that? The same squad is capable of beating the best but can't beat Everton?
Next month would've been the last few fixtures of Moyes' year contract. Scary to think about that.
I don’t think it all comes down to the managers having the balls to do it here, the glazers, Woodward and board don’t have the ability or will to do it.Appointing him at that time was a mistake for sure. He can still turn this around by doing what is necessary, which is basically getting rid of most of the squad and starting fresh. I think most fans will accept a bad season next year as long as he does that in the summer. Does he have the balls to do that? I dont think so.
He'll do exactly what the past managers have done, keep these players around, who inevitably will get him sacked.
Perhaps but I doubt ed sits and reads Redcafe!Doubt the board would have been so hasty without all the fan hysteria.
The same squad finished 2nd in the EPL last season.
When you think about, 6th then, 6th, now, would he have been any worse? Pointless CL runs, we're still as shit as we were back then.
Ed should bite the bullet and sack him now in order to save him the trouble of doing so in November. 6 defeats in 8 is unprecedented in it's awfulness. It's becoming increasingly clear that he hasn't got a clue how to turn the tide. United need a new manager and staff with a clear vision how to play progressive football.
A few months later and it's like Mourinho never left:
Still faffing about with the defense (is he really the man to shore up this defense?)
Still playing the same formation
Still willing to give the deadwood more chances
Still shunting Rashford to the wing
Still putting Matic straight back into the team
Still calling out the players in the press
Still talking about the past
Still negative
At least Mourinho would have had them fired up to come back from a losing position once in a while.
Still faffing about with the defense (is he really the man to shore up this defense?)
Still playing the same formation
Still willing to give the deadwood more chances
Still shunting Rashford to the wing
Still calling out the players in the press
It is probably more likely he is being asked questions which lead to these answers. This was certainly true for the Barcelona fixtures.Still talking about the past
Still negative
At least Mourinho would have had them fired up to come back from a losing position once in a while
Another common factor is that they are all managers that underperformed and weren't up to the task. Maybe we should have kept Moyes?Oh boy here we go blaming the managers again. There’s only 1 common factor among the last few managers we had and it’s the players.
Sack him before he's had the opportunity to create his own team?
He needs to get ruthless and maybe wake up to the fact that there are times when you can't be loyal to players because they just don't respond to it.
Because it's unfair not to? Because he gave us the best three months we've had since Fergie left?Honestly, why should he be given the chance to create his own team?
That squad had Blind, Fellaini, Carrick and a Young and Valencia living ng out their last bits of usefulness.The same squad finished 2nd in the EPL last season.
Jose did say that was his biggest achievement. Puts things into perspective and can you actually say he’s wrong now?2nd place in the league and F.A Cup Finalist, yes Fecking useless.
We've had injuries so its perfectly reasonable to have to juggle around the defence. The mistake today was to put Lindelof as a RB which led to two players playing positions they have rarely played before at United. However, he only needed to play one player out of position, i.e. he could have played a Dalot at right back and simply played a CB at left back.
So you are moaning he is faffing about with the defence. They you moan that he isn't faffing about with the formation?
I agree Young and Matic have received too many chances. Rojo and Darmian are definitely off, and also probably Bailly. However, he can't get rid of the entire team in one go.
We only have Lingard to play there and he has been worse than Rashford. Not many alternatives.
He has only done this very recently. Why is it acceptable for you to call out players but the manager can't? Has he even said anything about an individual player in particular? I think he has tried to keep the criticism about the team rather than individuals which is perfectly reasonable.
It is probably more likely he is being asked questions which lead to these answers. This was certainly true for the Barcelona fixtures.
I think you are mistaking negative play with just simply bad performances. He certainly wasn't negative for his first ten or so games.
You've just rewritten history there. Mourinho was awful and simply had to go. Just because you feel Ole isn't the right choice does not make the decision to remove Mourinho incorrect.
Doubt the board would have been so hasty without all the fan hysteria.
We could also do with a manager that isn't out of his depth.We were doing fine at the start of the year when Ole took over and the players could be arsed. The problem isn't the manager it's the spineless primadonnas out on the field who can't be arsed half of the time. There is something rotten in this squad and until we get rid of the players who are behind it nothing will change.
Pogba plays for the team...team Pogba that is. He's selfish, lazy and arrogant. I don't care how brilliant he can be - he appears incapable of inspiring the players around him and ambles round the pitch with zero urgency.We were doing fine at the start of the year when Ole took over and the players could be arsed. The problem isn't the manager it's the spineless primadonnas out on the field who can't be arsed half of the time. There is something rotten in this squad and until we get rid of the players who are behind it nothing will change.
thats what I believe too. It has the feeling of Scholes at Oldham. I dont believe its the players though, that is just kneejerk against Ole not succeeding. Someone needs to kick them into action, Ole cant he's too nice, someone like Simeone could whilst bringing in new talent to replace old.I think Ole will step down at the end of the season if results don’t improve and a decent replacement can be found. Seems to me like someone who would have the clubs best interests at heart.
That is no excuse for losing 6 in 8 and getting consistently outplayed by every other team. Obviously last season's team was not the best ever runners-up, but the players showed what they can do as they did in our winning run not so long ago.That squad had Blind, Fellaini, Carrick and a Young and Valencia living ng out their last bits of usefulness.
Then Woodward thought it marvelous to not invest significantly in the playing staff whilst every top 7 challenger bar Spurs did
