I don't think that anyone is arguing that it's viable at the current stage of development (and pricing). By the time it will hypothetically become socially acceptable chances are it's going to be way more convenient to use and, well, way more affordable.
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I think the ultimate aim is AR, with stuff laid over what you see in the real world. Google glass was ahead of its time and I feel the vision pro will eventually become something similar to the ray ban smart glasses. The verge reviewer said something similar, the vision pro is basically a VR headset and that is not really what Apple wanted to do but this is all they could do with the tech we have right now.
Even if it becomes cheaper and socially acceptable, unless they are able to find proper use for it, I don't see how it's going to be a massive product line like the iPhone or iPad. The tweet above said Apple have been working on this for 15 years, yet they don't seem to have much of an idea about what it's actually useful for. Can it do some cool stuff? Sure. But is that worth $3500? Definitely not, at least IMO
Pretty much the same as viewing your phone hours on end and reading a book. It will have the same effect... but it won't stop people?
This is standard Apple pricing, the going rate plus Apple tax. There will be cheaper competitors at some point.
As far as your eyes are concerned you’re looking at stuff that is far away. They’re not focused on the screen near your face. Their focus is further away.
I don't know about you, but I don't use my phone millimeters from my eyes or read a book keeping it millimeters from my eyes.
Isn't it still the issue that your focus is stuck on a focal plane for long lengths of time. I know there's technology for that but I struggle to see how that turns up in Ray-Bans anytime soon...
It's the lack of refocusing, see above...
Sorry, I didn't get you. My understanding of VR is that there is a screen inside the headset displaying videos or running apps that you look at. I don't understand how you are looking at stuff that's far away.
Edit - did some reading and I think I understand.
But there's also other side effects like constant exposure to blue light, vergence accommodation conflict, etc, which are all worse on a VR headset as opposed to a smartphone. Might not be a big issue but you never know.
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after honing my fighting style on beat saber, i’d like to see them try.
You jest, but if you throw a bunch of tech nerds and a bunch of regular nerds into a post apocalyptic or dystopian or battle royale setting......
I'd back the tech nerds...
Seen your edit. Yeah, I was just talking about whether or not you’re focussing on something nearby, which you’re not. But I agree it intuitively seems unhealthy to be so close to a light source for hours and hours. Although it is normal to have bright blue light hitting your retina during daylight hours, if someone uses this deep into night on a regular basis it probably isn’t ideal.
Yeah it’s a bit of a pricey novelty similar to how iPhone 1 was at the time in the absence of a developed app ecosystem. Once developers start churning out highly addictive apps, many will buy one, just as many are willing to throw down a grand for a phone these days.
I’m seeing a lot of pictures of people out in public with these….feck walking around the streets with a 3-4K device strapped to my head.
Doesn’t it do everything a iphone or television can already do ?
I will be surprised if it catches on as it suffers from the same issues as other VR headsets - It’s big and looks shit.
I will be surprised if it catches on as it suffers from the same issues as other VR headsets - It’s big and looks shit.
So you wouldn't want a laser cannon strapped to your head?
I think it’s a lot more than what was previously thought of as VR. It’s basically a spatial computer that integrates VR, AR, and ordinary computing, gaming, film watching etc., into one device wrapped into the usual Apple “I have to have one now” marketing.
Moyesy will be the first adopter
Isn't there already in the Quest 3 and what it calls mixed reality? It does all the being able to watch sport on multiple screens, watch replays on a different part of the screen, and superimpose the image over your living room etc anyway. Maybe this does more I'm missing at the moment though.
Tech companies have figured out that people don't see the point in buying a new phone, laptop, tablet or whatever each year, so in order to keep feeding the growth beast they've come up with something new they can sell us.
Cheers. I only watched the YouTube video posted and it didn’t seem great. Interesting to see if it catches on due to the Apple marketing.
This is how I imagine all of the other billionaires will be using this tech.
zuckerberg is next door, wanting me to amazing person I admire his wife:
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To be honest I am really concerned about the possibilities of AR combined with AI development. Even in today's world of social media it's impossible to tell which posts are written by humans and which are coming from bots. Going forward, imagine if you see the world through something like the Apple Vision - how the heck are you supposed to know what's real and what's artificially generated?
It's annoying looking at videos and listening to people where it seems they don't realize there are already VR headsets that can do plenty of what this can do for a fraction of the price? It's just taking what others have done and putting it into the seamless Apple ecosystem.
Ofcourse it can do things better than others can, but that doesn't make it 'innovative'.
Ofcourse it can do things better than others can, but that doesn't make it 'innovative'.
Pokémon Go on this thing is going to be lit 
Google glass was a decade ago wasn't it? Maybe we are all just more accepting with people potentially recording us since well that already happens everyday with everyone having a 4k recording device in there hand at all times
I mean, porn must be amazing on this thing ?
As I said in the Snapple thread: I'm not that impressed. A lot of it was already possible with other VR sets, it just does it a bit better due to more expensive hardware and better software integration with Apple s closed ecosystem. But other VR sets tried to remain a lot more affordable than this so of course there is a difference for that alone. Like 3D TV this still won't catch on until it becomes a lot more affordable, intuitive and most of all - less dorky. Using one at the home is one thing, but no one s gonna walk around with that in public except for that Sean Penn tech reviewer apparently. Wake me up when something like Google Glass or similar format is ready for prime time, or just put a chip in my head.
I picked up a couple of these. One for me, one for my nephew for doing well at Uni.
I haven't used it yet. I'll crack it open this week when I get home!
I haven't used it yet. I'll crack it open this week when I get home!
Why is everyone talking about using it in public? 99% of people will not use it in public. On a plane, maybe.
Once it gets a little lighter and doesn’t need the external battery pack in your pocket, along with dedicated apps and integration with Netflix, YouTube and especially the likes of Sky Sports, it will be pretty damn cool. The ability to just use your fingers as a controller, the integration with your laptop and phone, and the ease of switching from full immersion to ‘see-through’ are significantly better features than anything else on the market right now.
Once it gets a little lighter and doesn’t need the external battery pack in your pocket, along with dedicated apps and integration with Netflix, YouTube and especially the likes of Sky Sports, it will be pretty damn cool. The ability to just use your fingers as a controller, the integration with your laptop and phone, and the ease of switching from full immersion to ‘see-through’ are significantly better features than anything else on the market right now.
So you're saying it's not ready for mass adoption, which I agree with. I ve owned several VR headsets incl those with pass through and again, while Apple made some interesting improvements there is little more it can do than something like a Quest Pro or Quest 3 for instance. Everyone i talk to who has one or more sets have them collecting dust after a short amount of time. There isn't as much of a convenience benefit once you get past the cool gimmick aspect.
Little cameras on players chests so you can switch to first person
That's been a huge selling point for Apple for ages now, and that matters a lot for people who are already using their other products. I initially only owned a macbook, but then I switched to iPhone with one reason being that I can very easily use it along with the laptop and a lot of the interface is shared across the devices, and then it is similar for those who also use the watch. This would add to the same and that would be an advantage over other brands. Obviously a lot will just buy it because of it being Apple without needing a lot of this integration but in the end it's simplifying user experience and that's something Apple has built upon for ages now.
There's already a bunch of videos doing rounds of guys using it while walking on the street and crossing roads, while scrolling stuff in the air etc.
I can see myself falling asleep while wearing this and being on the socials.