So with the young Porto playing joining as well, that's 3 players Ajax have now who can be utilised on the right and all 3 players are naturally left footed. I think it makes sense for Ajax to sell Antony, if they believe in the ability of the young Porto player and Ihatteren. There's also rumours about Memphis Depay joining the club.
Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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I'll be surprised if Antony isn't sold.
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I'll be surprised if Antony isn't sold.
Felt this would be the late in the window signing and it really does look like it.
Not seen a lot of him really. Is he worth it?
What makes him cut out for the PL that others that have moved across from there don’t have? Ziyech and Depay leave a bad taste in my mouth…
What makes him cut out for the PL that others that have moved across from there don’t have? Ziyech and Depay leave a bad taste in my mouth…
Maguire in front of Varane?.
I'm assuming Varane will end up with less starts overall than Maguire in an effort to protect him from injuries, since Maguire can play on the left.
or they may share our managers views on who will be the best…that’s all that matters…if in 2/3 seasons Antony isn’t the player they are..our manager will have made an error. He won’t get away with many of them signing wise.
It’s going to be interesting now. We have to wait for FdJ and the other deals are done (Martinez, Eriksen) I wonder if we will go for an attacking player because we desperately need one.
Think he would be a decent addition to our squad. I'm not convinced we would be able to afford him if we sign De Jong though. Also, he wouldn't be a guaranteed starter in my opinion. Much like how Richarlison isn't at Spurs. We definitely need a third quality option to compete with Rashford and Sancho.
We are not in a hurry imo. Either Ajax can agree to a reasonable fee or he stays there for another season. For once, we can be patient imo
Is he the best out there though? Just a coincidence he’s at Ajax? Who knows but we’ll see soon enough I guess.
Top quality left footed, right sided players are at a bit of a premium I think. No idea if he is the best option out there, but I am sure he's a good player. However, he isn't as good as Sancho on the right. Though if Rashford isn't performing, then Sancho could play on the left with Antony on the right. He would be a nice option to have.
He can't cost us anywhere near Sancho fee though, Sancho was proven at a higher level already.
We just paid the feck off price Ajax slapped on Martinez, Antony is very likely not happening. RB is another position that's as weak if not weaker than RW so we should spend the Antony money there.
Agreed. I wouldn't want us to pay any more than £50-60m. However, Ajax don't need to sell so may demand more.
This would be a difficult one to negotiate, that is if we still have any intentions of coming back for him.
Maybe if Ronaldo goes the club would want to show intent with an attacker coming in.
If Ronaldo leaves, we will probably prioritise a striker of some sort although ideally we would need both.
Rather an attacker than a RB for me, as I believe EtH can work with Dalot or AWB for one season. However, going forward, creating chances, scoring etc, there we need improvement, especially since we cant really count on Ronaldo
I think this transfer is us on the back burner for next season now.
Yes probably but I'll rather him than any striker currently on the market.
We can work around using Martial, Rashford and probably a false 9 in the mean time.
Yeah the striker market really is slim pickings. We need a big season from Martial. Looking forward to us signing a top striker next summer.
Its a wonder how someone can think elanga is a first teamer. He is absolutely horrible at this point in time. He cant dribble, cant pass, his first touch is poor etc. He is a bench player at best and even when comes from the bench, all he does is press well. He needs to go out on loan more than pellistri or amad. Dont get me wrong, all 3 are not ready but elanga is the one in the worst shape
Maybe we go for that Clauss guy at RB leaving money for a left footed RW as well
Yeah that's exactly what I see happening
The Ajax squad currently looks like this:
Pasveer/Gorter/Stekelenburg
Rensch/Regeer
Timber/Schuurs
Bassey/Blind
Wijndal/Tagliafico ("fico" wants to leave though)
Álvarez/Klaassen
Berghuis/Ihattaren
Kudus/Taylor
Antony/Conceicao
Bergwijn/Brobbey
Tadic/Daramy or Ünüvar
I think they're fine with that depth. Don't forget that Sao Paulo receives 20% of the fee, so Ajax is really not looking to sell Antony if they don't have to.
Where does Ihattaren fit?
Either as an offensive midfielder ('10' position) or on the right wing. During pre-season he played RW, but Antony was injured and we didn't have Conceicao or Bergwijn yet.
Has anyone mentioned that Ajax are signing a lot of players including some forwards and it might soften their Antony stance
You've got the option of playing Ihattren and Conceicao on the right if Antony leaves.
Eh, right now it's 5 attackers (Tadic, Bergwijn, Antony, Brobbey and Concecaio) for 3 spots. Doesn't look like enough depth if Antony leaves, with Tadic being 33.
Ajax brought a RW from Porto, maybe its a replacement for him ?
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There's Ihatteren also who's apparently been playing RW in preseason. Until new reports come out thay Ajax are lowering their price I'm no getting my hopes up no matter how many RWs they sign
Don't expect Ajax to just significantly lower the price. Ajax has no reason to. Ajax still don't want to sell, he still has a 3 year deal and Ajax would want him to have a cracking season here before he's sold. Nevertheless, with Ajax getting other attackers in and Ihattaren doing well in preseason, Ajax might be less reluctant to do a deal than a few weeks ago. But that's not the same as Ajax wanting to sell. With a 3 year deal left, CL and a WC coming up which can really significantly increase his value, Ajax will be looking for a huge fee yet again.
Ajax stood firm regarding Martinez and will do the same regarding Antony. As said, with the new attacking players being brought in and Ihattaren doing well in pre-season, Ajax may be a bit more open to the idea. However, that doesn't mean Ajax will be looking to sell for a soft price at all. Ajax can easily wait another year before selling him for a reasonable price and if Antony explodes in CL/WC Ajax can get a huge price next year as well. As Ajax may be open to the idea a little more, I can see Ajax drop it's price to around €75m including add-ons. That's still a lot of money of course, but Ajax don't want/have to sell.
Nevertheless, as I said earlier, I can see this deal happening if you manage to sell Ronaldo. I can see that free-ing up space to do one more big transfer. As there are no top class strikers available, I can see you going for Antony in that case, since Ten Hag really likes him.
I don’t expect Ajax to significantly drop their price, but I do expect us to return. We clearly want a forward, and he’s probably the first choice. Once a few more players leave, I think we’ll be back. The player too will apply pressure I suspect.
Ideally we'd give them cash + Pellistri or Amad. Not sure how realistic that is though
But Spurs have quality up front and on the left which are Richarlison's natural positions.
I don't think we've got much quality on the right as we have no left footers except Amad. If this guy isn't a starter we shouldn't even be contemplating it for the money required.
We have been playing Sancho on the right during pre season and he is a better player than Antony. However, if Rashford is not pulling up trees on the left, we can play Sancho there and start Antony on the right. It is a signing that would give us options and that is what we need.
In preseason yes, Sancho was underwhelming on the right last year for us and also his better performances for Dortmund were on the left. Not convinced it's his position.
Judging anyone on last season is futile in my opinion. He's terrific on the left or right. If Rashford was purely a right sided player, I'm pretty sure that Sancho would play on the left. They are our two best wide players, so by having them both in our lineup it is to the betterment of our team. What we don't have is sufficient depth and competition in these positions, hence why we need Antony or someone similar.
Spot on in an ideal world we would have 4 options for two spaces who offer you something a little different.
Before J Sancho joined we had Rashford, Martial, D James, J Lingard, M Greenwood. Rashford direct pacey could play inverted striker or play 9 or 10, Martial similar but more of a ball to feet player. Greenwood could play anywhere accross front 4 positions but was quick left footed and could make things happen on his own, Lingard could play narrow and deeper and Daniel James was a true winger, hugging the touch line with wrecking ball pace, allowing you to play him as a counter attacking weapon or he could be deployed as almost like another wing back in a low block then spring at lightning speed.
These options are why we finished 3rd and 2nd from 19/20 to 20/21. We need Antony and I’m not totally sold on A Elanga yet either, I think F Pellistri has a much higher ceiling and could be an updated version of Daniel James. So Rashford, Sancho, Pellistri, Antony and A Garnaucho that excites me and gives us all the options for the 55-60 games we might play this season with the new 5 substitutes rule. Antony is a critical transfer for the club and more importantly the Manager.
I wouldn't write us off getting him just yet. We do need at least one attacking player of some description whether that be a wide player or a striker.
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